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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA black woman has won the seat once held by Gingrich and which a white man could not win last spring
So, please spare us the "we'd better not run a minority or woman because only a white man can save us right now" excuses for perpetuating institutional racism.
And don't point to Abrams and Gillum as examples of how minorities and women can't win. Their races are not over yet, but win or lose, they've come closer to beating a Republican in ruby red states than any white man has come in decades. Oh ... and their opponents had to cheat their asses off just to stay competitive.
White men lose elections ALL the time but no one suggests that means other white men shouldn't run. But when female and darker folk lose to white men, that's held up as proof that women and minorities are a drag on the party and white men must be given MORE opportunities to run.
On the other hand, when white men lose to women and people of color, it's treated as an aberration that means nothing outside of that particular race. The fact that the last three presidential elections were won by a black man and a woman yet we're being told a white man must be our standard bearer if we want to win in 2020 being the glaring case in point.
The bullshit Great White Male Hope argument not only is plainly racist and sexist, no matter how it's couched, it completely ignores the fact that women and minorities kicked ass all over the country this week while a whole bunch of white men have egg all over their faces. Maybe instead of insisting that only white men can save us, we should be gearing up to run women and black and brown folk since THEY seem to be the winning tickets.
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)Sadly, the one distinguishing characteristic of all these damn mass murder shooters is - the VAST majority of THEM are white men.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Florida Democrats spent their capital electing....Charlie Crist. To put Christ in, they kneecapped kendrick meek, even DU allowed Crist to run as a third party, ensuring Marco Rubio got the seat. OH, what of Rick Scott, he was fought by two D candidates (go ahead, look them up) who lost my thin margins, despite some shenanigans the GOP did to fix the vote, and they ran right home to their cushy legal jobs.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)x
iluvtennis
(19,850 posts)misanthrope
(7,411 posts)The Atlantic's Vann Newkirk opines that what happened in this election will have far-reaching effects across Southern states.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/what-to-do-with-the-democrats-progressive-darlings/575293/
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)This:
Nationally, the story is the same: Moderate Democratic candidates in statewide races underperformed. The group of moderate Democrats in the SenateWest Virginias Joe Manchin, Indianas Joe Donnelly, Missouris Claire McCaskill, North Dakotas Heidi Heitkamp, and Montanas Jon Testerwas all but obliterated on Tuesday, with only Tester and Manchin emerging victorious. These candidates are not from swing statesand indeed may have fallen victim to deepening Republican partisanship in very-red statesso the lessons they provide for thinking about 2020 and other major elections are limited. But all told, there is little evidence in the 2018 results that moderate candidates are the key to the Democratic Partys future.
sheshe2
(83,746 posts)The diversity of them was uplifting and gives me a good view of our direction for the future. Must say they, and women like them, are the ones we have been waiting for. These new members do not even paint the whole picture. For one, we reelected our AG, she was the first openly gay women ever elected to that office.
Yes, I have read the arguement that only the GWMH can win. Tuesday proved them wrong. Yes, we had some disappointments Tuesday and all races have not been called yet, that is how close it was...yet we had huge wins in so many ways.
Brava ladies. Brava.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)of winning, but her odds were low too. Honestly, the area was so red a year or so ago when they elected Handel, I never thought a Democratic political newbie had a chance. Along with increasing diversity in area, I bet women went for her.
Rep-elect McBath (D-GA) was behind when I went to bed, woke up to a surprise worth a dance.
She ran a campaign on issues, including healthcare and gun control, in a district previously dominated by white wing haters and gun-fanciers. Heck, Lester Maddox was from there.
Stunning victory that has to be freaking out the trumpsters in that area. Maybe, they should move. Maybe she can make some people listen in Washington.
betsuni
(25,468 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)To be very two dimensional.
It is frequently done to continue the tired premise that we can only bridge the vast canyon with whites is to run white males like Biden.
An equally two dimensional formula is that we have to advance I'll informed radical policies like economic nationalism to get more left wing supporters.
Again it is all very two dimensional.
The quality that Obama, Biden, Gillum, Abrams, Beto share is not race or policy but that they are able to TRANSMIT AN OVERWHELMING SENSE OF AUTHENTICITY.
Sec Clinton is a great person and public servant but her campaign admitted that while the people that worked closely with her felt a deep emotional bond with her they struggled to find a way to communicate that quality to a national audience
I also see a large number of African Americans outside of politics that have a gift to transmit that authenticity from Oprah to Magic Johnson.
While there are obviously folks of all races that have this ability my personal observation is that it is disproportionately found in AA public figures. I first was touched by Dick Gregory's unique authenticity to just beam out when I was a teenager in profound way.
I have developed a theory why this is, IMHO, more commonly found in AA famous and regular folks. My theory is that AA have to be fluent in 2 (or more) cultures white/black an move at ease between them at school and work while large number of whites operate in a monoculture. Of course there are many whites and other folk that have this ability I just think it is a common survival skill that many AA pick up young as a survival skill.
I saw this the other day when John Lewis was giving a thoughtful explanation about the current play of the political race on national TV and then latter at night he was very elegantly dancing at Abrams rally in a way that I have never seen a white 78 year old guy move. He was able to transmit an equally authentic John Lewis in both and widely disparate settings. I am guessing that he started to pick up those reflexes in grade school. We don't love him because he is black or because we agree on his position on capital gains but because he is able to share his authentic self.
Biden has it great but no one did it better than Obama. Gillum, Abrams, McBath all share that trait and that is why people responded to them not because they are Black but because they were able to transmit a warm authentic vision of how they incorporate Democratic values throughout their whole being.
They aren't the only ones who out performed the political stage not because of race or position papers. Bobby Kennedy did it 50 years ago, Barack Obama did it 10 years ago and Beto O'Rourke did it in Texas this year.
Republicans had a guy that did it 160 years ago and Teddy Roosevelt did it 110 years ago and since then it has been an exhausting string of Potemkin masks of inauthentic posers passing one long con on the people every four years. Teddy Roosevelt was the first and last Republican to talk honestly about the need for some kind of universal health care.
It is the authentic vision of leaders like Gillum, Abrams and McBath (and many many more) that portray the essential soul of the Democratic Party and it transcends race at about 20,000 feet.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,490 posts)One might call that trait emotional connectivity.......
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Forget Biden and other old white guys -- the party has so many women and men, many of them POC, who are engaging and charismatic and the leaders of the future.
Cha
(297,154 posts)You, grant!
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)From the gate. My point being a woman probably would ahve beaten DeSantis, and a black man did better than Crist and many other people. I think Nelson still has a chance of squeaking out a win -- Gillum probably doesn't, but only elderly racist white "Dems" kept him from winning. He did great!
Over 100 women won Tuesday night, many of them WOC, LGBT, MUslim, etc. Women can win. Gillum had the best showing in forever for a DEm as Gov.
I still want Kamala Harris to run.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)for waking up the district to new possibilities. The same may be said of Beto some day, but he deserves a lot of credit too.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Gotcha.
And maybe aliens built the pyramids because how could those Africans have managed to pull off such a feat with no machinery?
Or, hey - here's another, more likely possibility: Osoff - like white man after white man after white man before him - didn't have what it took to win, and it was Lucy McBath, a smart, dynamic, passionate black woman, who "woke up the district to new possibilities."
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)I do.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Your point being?
FM123
(10,053 posts)CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Ossoff was one of many stepping stones in the Democrats slow, steady and eventual return to political power in our state.
We elected two Democrats, Wallace and Gonzalez, to the state assembly in a previous special election in the Athens area. Unfortunately, they both lost to Republicans in the 2018 midterm election. One step forward, then two steps back.
McBath was a great candidate and will be a great Congressman.
I canvassed on Election Day here in my GA community. There was huge enthusiasm for Abrams.
If there is a runoff on Dec 4, Ill be back out going door to door.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)For Beto.
There isnt anything wrong in giving credit for laying groundwork for the next candidate to build on.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)To boldly go where the mutant toxic newt contaminated the land.
It looks like voters want representation in government that actually represents them. We are not 1 race, 1 gender, 1 culture, 1 religion and voters seem pissed off that government for too long looked like that.
Voters demand bold -- Lucy McBath, woman, black, gun control, 1st time candidate -- WON and FLIPPED a seat in Georgia. I'm still trying to wrap my head around all that.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Hey, I'm not the only one silly enough to think SHE DID IT...
McBath's initial call to action happened six years ago when her 17-year-old son, Jordan Davis, was shot and killed in 2012 by a white man, who argued with the teenager about playing music too loud in a Florida parking lot. She worked as a flight attendant, but after the tragedy, McBath emerged as vocal advocate against gun violence. "She became a national spokesperson for Moms Demand Action, an increasingly formidable advocacy group that has become a perpetual thorn in the side of the National Rifle Association, and grew a national profile as a 'Mother of the Movement,' alongside other black women who lost their children to gun violence," according to Mother Jones.
In late 2017, McBath decided to move from activism to politics, announcing a bid for the Georgia statehouse, alongside scores of first-time candidates, many of whom were women. Yet once 17 people were gunned down in the Florida high school, McBath felt her message was more urgent and aimed higher.
"I knew that I could no longer sit on the sidelines while the politicians in the pocket of the gun manufacturing lobby decide the future of our gun laws," McBath wrote on her campaign site.
https://www.salon.com/2018/11/08/lucy-mcbath-a-gun-control-advocate-just-flipped-newt-gingrichs-old-seat-democratic/
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and even if you don't like Ossoff or think that he deserves any credit, everyone in the Atlanta area heard months of negative commercials about Karen Handel. I think that helped. That's all.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Lucy McBath was obviously a stronger and more effective candidate and her win should not be dismissed or cannibalized by giving a losing candidate the credit for it - especially since you haven't given HER any credit for her own win before jumping in to tell us to offer kudos to the last guy to lose the district.
Kind of Blue
(8,709 posts)Demwolv
(88 posts)It's about damn time this country wakes up to the real fighters of justice here: Black Women.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)But retain my previous worries, framed differently. Given that Trump will play the race or sex card again, and that it worked well enough with enough people in 3 states to swing the election last time, what should a candidate to prevent that attack this time?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)As evidenced by his trampling over more than a dozen white men in the primaries and now in his presidency.
No one can prevent his attacks - the key is not playing into them, not trying to out-Trump him and not wasting time trying to convince people who fall for his crap to vote for Democrats. Leave those people to themselves and focus on building, expanding, and energizing our base and outvoting them.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)there's only supporting our candidates and getting our own, positive message out there. There needs to be a lot more reinforcement of what good we've done because THAT is what people are voting for, results they can see and feel.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Hell yeah we did!
ananda
(28,858 posts)It's just a matter of ALL the votes being counted.
7962
(11,841 posts)Even with all the still-uncounted votes going to Stacey, its not enough to put her in the lead or drop kemp under 50%. At least the numbers for the uncounted that I saw reported anyway. Who knows, maybe THAT number will change.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,852 posts)Ayanna Pressley in MA - a so-called "blue state" that currently re-elected a Republican governor but also elected their first black female to Congress -
https://www.vox.com/2018/11/6/18048286/house-midterm-results-massachusetts-seventh-ayanna-pressley-winner
What the MSM won't say about MA-7 is that it includes parts of Boston and Cambridge (and other 'burbs around the area)!
MountCleaners
(1,148 posts)Because she had a fresh message and people are sick of these old white farts in the GOP. This was Dennis Hastert's old district. Embracing the future is the way to go!
7962
(11,841 posts)Even in Ga. I remember being told Sanford Bishop didnt have a chance back in the 90s. "His district is a lot of white farmers. They'll NEVER vote for a black man". And while the district DOES include Columbus, a lot of those "white farmers" elected Bishop on his first run, and he's been re-elected ever since. Even with redistricting.
BumRushDaShow
(128,852 posts)The newly elected Lt. Governors of Michigan and Wisconsin are these 2 gentlemen -
Garlin Gilchrist II (1st African America Lt. Gov. of Michigan - age 36)
Mandela Barnes (1st African America Lt. Gov. of Wisconsin - age 31)
7962
(11,841 posts)Lucky Luciano
(11,253 posts)Obviously very talented. Would love to learn more. Right now I only know about their photographs.
7962
(11,841 posts)study war no more
(73 posts)This is the district I grew up in.
btw - if you try to type Gingrich into your phone, it may autocorrect to gingivitis..... pretty accurate.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)JHan
(10,173 posts)susanna
(5,231 posts)ck4829
(35,045 posts)yardwork
(61,588 posts)pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)And was truly the underdog.
In a tidal wave of inspirational stories, for me, hers was one that moved me.
I expect great things from her when she gets to Washington.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Who cares about this House race as supposed indicator nationally? That is laughable. I don't care about single-example district political races any more than I care about day to day development in politics.
Looks like nothing but fear.
It is going to be incredibly difficult to oust a presidential incumbent. Incredibly difficult. Only Jimmy Carter has lost in this situational scenario in more than a century. We have no margin for error. It has to be someone with charisma and teflon. It has to be someone who is not rejected by the electorate as too liberal, as Gillum apparently was (by 46%), whether we like it or not.
As a handicapper I don't want misogyny to exist and thrive at such high level, but I'm not going to be dense enough to deny it. If you look at exit polling the female candidate more often than not has a lower favorable number in exit polls than her pre-election polling indicated, and with males it is reversed. Heck, even Ted Cruz was 50-48 favorable. Trump's approval was 45% in the exit poll while 538 was insisting 42% on adjustment.
Gallup in its final pre-election survey had Trump at 61% unfavorable in 2016. It was actually 60% unfavorable in the exit poll, or slightly better. But Hillary predictably erred the other way. Gallup had her at 52% unfavorable. But exit polling indicated 55% unfavorable.
Instead of 36-61 net unfavorable as reported by Gallup, the exit poll for Trump was 38-60. Hillary was only 5 points under water according to Gallup at 47-52, but actual exit polling had her 12 points below at 43-55.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/197231/trump-clinton-finish-historically-poor-images.aspx
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
That was perhaps the least surprising development of the entire election. Sorry, but I follow numbers all the time and I'm not going to be swayed by some silly emotional argument. If we nominate a female instead of a male then we need to be prepared for a result that is again worse than the polling or conventional wisdom allow.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)that because Hillary lost to Trump and she's a woman and he's a man, no other woman could ever beat him and therefore only a man should be the nominee next time around.
Funny how men lose elections all the time - sometimes even to women - but folks don't suggest that this means other men can't win and shouldn't be candidates.
This "a woman didn't win the last time, so we'd better not run a woman this time" thinking is not limited to politics. Black folk and women have had to put up with it all of our lives. I can't tell you how many jobs I've had where I've watched white man after white man screw up while more white men continued to be hired and promoted without the least bit of concern that the performance of their fellow white men in any way predicted their performance. Yet I knew that if I screwed up even a tenth as badly as my white male co-workers, that would negatively impact any black woman who sought a position because, after all "We hired a black woman once, but she didn't work out, so we have to be very careful not to repeat that mistake ..."
And while you may not be racist or misogynist, the "a woman lost last time, so we'd better not run a woman next time" philosophy enables and perpetuates the backward thinking and invidious discrimination racists and misogynists with which want to continue infecting our society.
Scruffy1
(3,255 posts)She's a muslim in a majority white christian district. a good candidate is a good candidate. Granted it's heavily democratic but she beat white males in the caucus and primary.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)And yes, full credit should be given to Lucy and her campaign!
However, I am still quite unhappy that all of the same people who voted for Jon Tester in MT did NOT also vote for the wonderful Kathleen Williams over the felon Gianforte.
If that wasn't sexism personified, I am not sure what is. There is no question whatsoever that Williams was much the better candidate.
Apparently MT Dems need to learn some lessons from the Dem party organization in NV.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)The Polack MSgt
(13,186 posts)guyfromla
(49 posts)As a minority we have to do far better than the whites to get the same benefit/job or what-ever. That is also true here. Despite Abrams and Gillum being gifted orators with impeccable academic credentials, when the survey people called - the racists lied to them. And hence the polls being so wrong on both the cases. Also it does not help that Scott and Georgia AG had been fighting to suppress vote in every way shape or form.