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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWith McCaskill defeat, Missouri Democrats have hit rock-bottom. Now what?
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-kraske/article221309670.html"Now why in the world would I be thinking about Death Valley Days in connection with Missouri Democrats? Thats precisely where they are today: stranded in Death Valley without any water, without any help in sight.
Its almost as if Tuesdays results complete a career arc for me. When I arrived in Jefferson City in 1988, and in ensuing years, Democrats were almost as dominant as Republicans are today. Claire McCaskill was a state representative from Kansas City with a future as sparkling as one of these fall afternoons weve enjoyed.
But look at Missouri Democrats today. They soon will hold neither U.S. Senate seat. Six of the states eight U.S. House seats are in GOP hands. Republicans retained their supermajorities in the General Assembly. And theyve got all the statewide offices, save one.
Missouri Democrats are at their nadir."
rockfordfile
(8,698 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)She's from a red state and is lucky she lasted as long as she did in that seat. We ran on health care, saving social security, infrastructure and anti corruption and had an excellent night. Took the House and 7 governorships. Donnie was hit in the face in just about every suburb and his position with women voters is in the sewer. Our "act" is in good shape and it's the party that has tied themselves to a scummy, whoremongering degenerate that's in trouble.
samnsara
(17,605 posts)...the dems pretty much have their act together.. except for some fine tuning.. im happy with them!
Cary
(11,746 posts)No one should be badmouthing Democrats.
Hokie
(4,286 posts)Republican lite usually loses. This is another example.
No one was winning in Missouri this year. No one.
Stellar
(5,644 posts)Why pick a Republican-lite if you can have a pure Republican. Missouri needs to start from scratch, if you want to call yourself a Democrat, then run like one, using our values.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)MO is F'd. Rapidly becoming North Alabama. The Racism and pure ignorance is rampant here.
We are fortunate that AZ is becoming purple and even Blue to replace MO. Heck even Georgia is becoming more blue than MO. It sucks living here amongst so many F'n ignorant Trumptard racists.
pstokely
(10,523 posts)probably would have lost against a repuke candidate with less baggage
pstokely
(10,523 posts)at least not until Mizzou can beat Alabama in football
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)female Governor and elected a democratic female, Native American lesbian to office.
Damn redstate Trump country Missouri got rid of our democratic Senator following Trump into a GOP shithole of degradation and despair!
When koch bros Kansas is more liberal than your own state there is no hope.
The only thing that makes me happy are the great ballot initiatives we passed in Missouri and Pat Mahomes and the KC Chiefs.
Everything else in this Trump cult paradise sucks shit!
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)If progressive ballot initiatives are being voted in, then maybe the Dem politicians should stop holding back their wisdom and campaign as progressives, not right-leaning centrists. Something powerful happens when a candidate says what they really think their voice quakes, becomes more resonant (like the Quakers, one of the most progressive religious groups in the country and BTW, they welcome all faiths, and even atheists, into their Sunday meetings for worship)
It seems you would agree with #2 above: McCaskill ran away from Democratic principles. Republican lite usually loses. This is another example.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)and for Davids, it helped that she was a well known pseudo star. Claire on the other hand is as hated in Missouri due to the RWNJ's railing against her 24/7 and vilifying her just like they did with Hillary. Missouri has more population than Kansas. KC and St. Louis can't bring it nome like they used to be able to do. A liberal will not win in Missouri under normal circumstances. (I/E like Alabama running a pedo or another Akin legitimate rape GOP candidate) We had fantastic liberal candidates for Governor and Senator in 2016 (a Presidential year) and we lost. Like I said, Missouri is a racist F'n waste of a state full of Trump deplorable MAGAt's.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)literally hit rock-bottom like Kansas did, in order for the people of that state to realize that indulging in RW garbage is truly a road to nowhere? I don't know the answer, but it could point toward a possible future.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If true.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)I've lived all but 6 years of my life here. Missouri has changed a lot in my 45 years. It was once far more Democratic, but like the South, it has moved toward Republicans for years. While many long time residents have grown more conservative, my area of the state attracts conservative retirees from around the country like crazy, to the Branson/lakes area. Not only does the social life attract conservative seniors, the lower cost of living does as well. It's like Disneyland for retired Trumpsters down there.
I think a big part of McCaskill's victory 2012 was that she ran against a crappy Republican, Todd "legitimate rape" Akin. Things hadn't gone off the rails with Trump at the time, and many conservative folks were still uncomfortable with what Akin was saying. Had it been Akin again in 2018, I think he would have won because people are now used to conservative politicians saying much worse. Trump normalized it, and conservatives LOVE it.
Of course, there are blue pockets, even in the reddest areas. I live in Springfield. A state house district adjacent to mine sent a Democrat back to Jeff City with a nearly 2 -1 victory over her opponent.
I actually think North Arkansas is more appropriate. Missouri went from a light blue state in the 90's, to a purple state in the 2000's, to now a bright red state. Kind of like Arkansas, but Missouri became bright red at a slower pace. I have to get out this state.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)But Missouri is now virtually hopeless.
And Democrats need to stop thinking they can win over Republicans. Focus on the metro areas and get out the base. When given a choice between a genuine Republican and a Democrat who tries to appeal to Republicans, Republicans will choose the former in almost every instance.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Azathoth
(4,607 posts)The pendulum is guaranteed to swing the other way, sooner or later.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Recruit levelheaded democrats to run for things like commissioners and mayors. Build out support infrastructure to provide support and advice. Run good candidates for state senate and house.
diva77
(7,629 posts)from the midterms engaged. Would that sort of thing help in Missouri?
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)And potential democratic candidates. Of course Project Veritas will try to slip in shit throwers, that will have to be watched out for.
Cha
(296,853 posts)and attitude.
Regrouping is vital!
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Claire McCaskill was a giant target for Fox News. Their propaganda attack campaign did her in.
rwheeler31
(6,242 posts)We need someone flash to wake people up.
pstokely
(10,523 posts)he dropped his bid for KC mayor, he might be available
rwheeler31
(6,242 posts)His well being is more important.
Autumn
(44,982 posts)The Dems there will have to come up with a strategy and figure out how to reach them and change their votes.
Cary
(11,746 posts)It had to be occupied by the Union Army while it trued to decide which side it was on.
Good luck finding a strategy.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and the same turnaround can easily happen in Missouri with a bit of vision and bold strategy...
I dunno, maybe the state's party leadership could do with some fresh thinking??
leftyladyfrommo
(18,866 posts)These rural people are dyed in the wool Republicans. I don't think they really like Trump but they won't vote Democrat until hell freezes over.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)it is pretty much ALL republicans at this point. Except, interestingly enough, the county collector who we write out personal property checks to. So I do think at some level the folks here know not to trust the repubs. with the cash. That is why I voted NO on the gas tax. Yes, the roads need the funds, but I do not trust those in power right now with the revenue.
THAT is one place where the Dems. should be showing the folks here (we are the show me state!) that the republicans do not do finances well. The debt always rises when they are in office. These are solid numbers that need to be shown and often!
I do not watch "regular" tv so I don't see the ads, but i am hoping Claire was telling the farmers the tariffs have hurt them badly. She knew the voters always go against the Right to Work crap (There is a Right to Work is a Rip off sticker on at least one out of three cars in this area) and she should have stressed it is the Repubs. that want us to go that way. Something like "Are you tired of voting down Right to Work measures? Then put the folks in office that KNOW this is not good for the workers in this state!"
I was born in MO and I am slow but not stupid! Instead of trying to be polite or talk as a moderate, the Dems. need to just show the facts in a simple, easy to understand way. Numbers are a good way to do that. Facts can be explained.
Just venting here because I am confused and disappointed in my fellow Missourians this week. There is some solace in that the races did have a relatively close margin (at least in my county), but close only counts in horse shoes and hand grenades!