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Now there's a headline...https://www.thedailybeast.com/marine-pilots-investigated-for-drawing-penis-and-testicles-with-plane?ref=home
Marine Pilots Investigated for Drawing Penis and Testicles With Plane
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greymattermom
(5,754 posts)than vaginas. Did I get that right?
Girard442
(6,066 posts)I mean, some disciplinary action is probably called for, but I can't be bothered to expend any outrage ammo on this one.
rampartc
(5,398 posts)With incredible egos. Put a warning in their service record and send them to sea.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)What is wrong with a little harmless fun?!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)Didn't you know?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)Now that's a headline
I see one of these every couple of years and always laugh. It has gone on forever.
[link:http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/06/worlds-earliest-erotic-graffiti-astypalaia-classical-greece|]
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)(In case some are too young to know Lonzo and Oscar, they were comedian - musicians, perhaps best known for "I'm my own Grandpa". This one is a bit slow and tedious but on topic).
mn9driver
(4,422 posts)This image did not appear in the sky. The aircraft in question is a T34C turboprop trainer. It is unpressurized and is only rarely operated above 12000 feet, so contrails arent produced. The aircraft ceiling is 25000 feet but nobody does that more than once because the cockpit heat cant keep up and the oxygen masks smell like dirty socks. I have never seen a T34 make a contrail. The image could only be seen on a radar tracking website if the specific aircraft and flight were selected.
This particular track shows that the flight originated at Navy El Centro, where it spent some time doing touch and go landings. Then it proceeded north under VFR flight rules and flew the path that produced the image in question. Then it flew to Miramar. This was a training flight and pilots are free to do what they want. I flew many of these types of flights, in that area, in that aircraft, a long, long time ago.
To summarize, no rules were broken and the only people who would see the image were those who specifically wanted to observe the track of that specific training flight, of which there are dozens every day in the area between El Centro and Miramar.
Suspending these pilots is absurd.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)mn9driver
(4,422 posts)But it is uninformed and illustrates a lack of understanding of the context of both the flight itself and the operations that these pilots perform on a daily basis.
Have a nice day.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)the flight. Which it probably one of these guys buddies ... that they were just trying to crack up that day.
Sure it's a silly prank, but it harms absolutely no-one, and the guys were just doing their job, but having a little fun with it.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Draw USA, no issue, draw a flag, no issue, but draw a dick and you look like a fucking grade schoool idiot!
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'll leave it at that
Good day
mn9driver
(4,422 posts)Have a nice day.
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)If one stops to think about for even a second, one realizes that the only figures one can "draw" with radar are continuous lines. I suppose a pilot could spell boobs in cursive, sort of, but as an image?
Puritan hangovers from the 16th and 17th centuries are completely ridiculous.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Why military get a pass for this "boys will be boys" frat antics is beyond me.
I would be fired for something similar.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)or drew a penis, for that matter, would that be as "Unprofessional"?
As the poster above stated, NO ONE COULD SEE THE IMAGE unless they specifically looked at a unique website that traces flight paths.
Last year pilots from Boeing did a long distance test flight during which the flight path drew an outline of the plane they were flying and the outline was basically half the size of the lower 48. As is the case with this Navy aircraft, the only way to see the outline was by looking at a graphic created by the flight tracking website.
Was THAT unprofessional?
https://www.wired.com/story/boeing-787-8-drawing-test-flight/
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Are welcome to draw all the dicks you want as a private citizen. Good luck!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)This was a REQUIRED endurance test.
From the article I linked above;
Except for the rare person who spotted the jet making unusually tight turns at cruising altitude, this performance was invisible to all but the aviation geeks who spend their downtime ogling air traffic through online tracking servicesand it was meant mostly for them.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Pilot did in on company time, he would be punished.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)"Punish person X because the same would happen to person Y" doesn't really address whether or not the offending action is wrong or worthy of punishment.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,365 posts)I completely understand your position and why you hold it.
Yup. Sure do.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,318 posts)I didnt get my license in the Marine Corps but I did go on training flights at the university where I got my ratings.
At no time was I told I could take a plane out and goof off. I was given tasks to complete. Im sure the Marine training schedule is much more stringent.
The penis thing is a non issue as far as Im concerned. But the judgement thing is a whole other issue. These guys are aspiring to get behind the controls of $50 million dollar plus airplanes with other peoples lives at stake. I just dont see how their commanders are going to overlook even a little bit of hot-dogging.
Being a pilot yourself, Im sure you know the statistics of young pilots killing themselves while fucking around.
mn9driver
(4,422 posts)The flights call sign ended in 91. That indicates a general purpose-not otherwise specified flight. In other words, take the airplane for the day and log some stick time and some landings.
Yes, we did that when we had nothing else to do, or we needed to stay current in a second type of aircraft. The T34C is no longer used to train pilots; it is a utility airplane. The Marines use it to clear and spot for the many bomb and gunnery ranges in the area. Thats not what these pilots were doing that day. They were out messing around and logging flight time and bounces.
Separation
(1,975 posts)I have spent countless of thousands of hours beating the air into submission (I flew in helos) and anything that you can do that is within the boundaries of being safe and legal, you just do sometimes.
Add to the fact that all Marines (I would even include Female Marines) have drawn at least one phallic piece of art in their time in the Corps. Just that most of the time, it is done on a shitter house wall that is normally 150 degrees baking in the desert sun, or in their training schoolhouse bathroom stalls (the head) connecting one to a picture of an instructor they dont like, or in their little book of knowledge they carry around in their top left pocket.
AFTER EDIT: Maybe its just my juvenile way of thinking, but that whole beating the air into submission has a whole double entendre to it as well.
lapislzi
(5,762 posts)They have seen the writing in the sky.
dagnuguy
(20 posts)It's pretty much what they do. I'm impressed that it wasn't done in crayon like usual.
sl8
(13,702 posts)Savage kid asks Marines if they want to eat some crayons at airport
(Video at link)
Initech
(100,054 posts)aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)This penis figure seems right up a Marine's lane.
Sneederbunk
(14,286 posts)thbobby
(1,474 posts)TeeYiYi
(8,028 posts)TYY
thbobby
(1,474 posts)Initech
(100,054 posts)progressoid
(49,961 posts)Yes, I laughed.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)I find it amusing... and kind of pathetic.
Decoy of Fenris
(1,954 posts)They're for the most part adorably (or downright) ugly appendages, they're shaped very oddly, they make a hilarious slapping sound when properly maneuvered, they have a plethora of tricks of both mobility and durability. They have the power to make men both pleased and pained, they're our main external point of both weakness and strength, truth told, the list goes on.
If I had to pick one answer, I'd have to say because my junk lets me pretend to be both a prop plane while vertical and a helicopter when horizontal?
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)albacore
(2,398 posts)...probably from the beginning. Tun Tavern's men's room probably had dicks drawn on the walls.
Note: Tomorrow is the 242nd birthday of the Corps.
Happy Birthday to all my fellow Marines. Semper Fi... and Semper Gumby.
AND THE REST OF YOU DISGUSTING MAGGOTS WILL WISH A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE CORPS!!!
Separation
(1,975 posts)That somebody drew a picture of George Washington with a dick pointing to his mouth at Valley Forge.
Semper Fi, and all that!
blitzen
(4,572 posts)relieving his bowels at Priceless Moments, because he doesn't like the soft squishy toilet seats at his friend's house.
Separation
(1,975 posts)The investigation should be, "Who in the Marine Corps hasn't drawn a penis somewhere. Whether on a friends face after he has passed out, or on a shitter house wall." There could be a great coffee table illustrative book about the many types of drawn peni, penises? Sure, this fine aviator took it to the next level. He was obviously out on a trainer, and what fantastic navigational skills a pilot must have to be able to draw one high in the sky.