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In It to Win It

(8,225 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:54 PM Nov 2018

What is so bad about Nancy Pelosi?

I get that she’s been demonized by the right BUT DAYUM!!!!!!! Our side seems to have given into the hype. The right has demonized her BECAUSE SHE DID HER JOB RIGHT!

There is NO BETTER time for her to be Speaker than now! This is the time that we need her the most! With this chaotic White House, WE NEED HER NOW!

Besides, who else is even throwing their hat in the ring?

I’m tired of the Nancy-hate. No other Democrat should even attempt to get the Speakership.

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What is so bad about Nancy Pelosi? (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2018 OP
She has been demonized by the right and complicit media. nt LexVegas Nov 2018 #1
Nothing, she is fantastic and extremely effective, so she is the enemy of the Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #2
Agree completely. The last thing the Dems need right now is a fight over the speakership.n/t Raven Nov 2018 #3
Nothing is wrong with her. It's a trendy fad to knock her. NurseJackie Nov 2018 #4
+1000000 Nancy is great and just who we need to lead the House Dems right now. skylucy Nov 2018 #5
A female leader from the Left Coast Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #6
Her d#$k is bigger than most men and they hate that... JCMach1 Nov 2018 #7
...and she carried Paul Ryan's b@lls in her purse. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #8
+2 JCMach1 Nov 2018 #11
Remember the DACA meeting? ProudLib72 Nov 2018 #12
No one is better qualified to be Trump's foil the next two years... JCMach1 Nov 2018 #17
My sentiments exactly In It to Win It Nov 2018 #18
Exactly! Thekaspervote Nov 2018 #25
Nothing really but we need new younger people Voltaire2 Nov 2018 #9
Actually Steve Smith said exactly that...Pelosi has the experience to run the House, but he said the OnDoutside Nov 2018 #13
Not now. In 2020, when that fuck tard in the White House loses, she can announce her retirement. In It to Win It Nov 2018 #14
People need to calm down. Dems are on target to get 237, which means 38 of the new guns can OnDoutside Nov 2018 #10
My guess: she nixed impeaching Dubya. Hassler Nov 2018 #15
Our seniority rules suck and she has done too little about it BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #16
hmmm elmac Nov 2018 #19
Just a few people criticize her and wans her replaced as speaker aikoaiko Nov 2018 #20
Some people have differing opinions. demmiblue Nov 2018 #21
She's a dynamic and intelligent woman. Some people can't stand that struggle4progress Nov 2018 #22
Nancy is a Sharp, Accomplished Woman Which Automatically Puts a Target on Her Back. It's the Sexism dlk Nov 2018 #23
I agree with you up to your last sentence. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #24
I understand that. I wouldn't want to squash someone's ambition but... In It to Win It Nov 2018 #26
The party will rally behind her. Caliman73 Nov 2018 #28
She knows how to get things done calguy Nov 2018 #27
She knows her stuff and it's no time for rookies Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #29
Nothing. She is an excellent Speaker of House that scare the bajeebus out Republicans. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #30
Let her lay out her vision for the next two years and let the house members choose. SaschaHM Nov 2018 #31

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
2. Nothing, she is fantastic and extremely effective, so she is the enemy of the
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

people trying to destroy America.

mostly that means republicans...

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. Remember the DACA meeting?
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

I think she carried Rump's balls out of the WH in her purse.

And I'm sure Mel didn't mind one bit.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
13. Actually Steve Smith said exactly that...Pelosi has the experience to run the House, but he said the
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

Dems need to freshen up the Leadership team with younger people.

In It to Win It

(8,225 posts)
14. Not now. In 2020, when that fuck tard in the White House loses, she can announce her retirement.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

For now, it needs to be Nancy that juggles Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. She’s the only one I can confidently say can effectively navigate that filthy swamp of a-holes she’s surrounded by.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
10. People need to calm down. Dems are on target to get 237, which means 38 of the new guns can
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:02 PM
Nov 2018

abstain and she will still be elected speaker 199-198.

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
16. Our seniority rules suck and she has done too little about it
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:06 PM
Nov 2018

The R’s term limit committe chairs and we don’t. Look at the age of our ranking members compared to theirs. Nadler would still be sitting behind Conyers if he hadn’t been nailed for harassment. That’s an example of how bad it is. The anti-Nancy’s aren’t bad Democrats. They have careers to worry about too you know.

aikoaiko

(34,163 posts)
20. Just a few people criticize her and wans her replaced as speaker
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:17 PM
Nov 2018


It’s all part of a vibrant discussion of leadership.

demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
21. Some people have differing opinions.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:19 PM
Nov 2018

It doesn't bother me in the least, and I don't view it as HATE!!!111 (insert more annoying CAPS!!! here. HERE, dammit!!!!!!!)


(I strongly support her as Speaker for the next two years, but would like to see the overall leadership handed down to the next generation after we get through this crisis).

Also: MORE CAPS AND !!!!!!!!!

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
24. I agree with you up to your last sentence.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 08:39 PM
Nov 2018

I think that any Democratic House member that is interested, should attempt to gain the Speakership. I think that is how a functioning democracy works, even within the structures we have.

I just happen to believe that she is the ABSOLUTE best person for the position and would likely trounce anyone else running.

In It to Win It

(8,225 posts)
26. I understand that. I wouldn't want to squash someone's ambition but...
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:05 PM
Nov 2018

I happen to think this is bigger than someone’s ambitions. We all have a common enemy and we believes he’s the true enemy of the people.

Because we think she would be the best to deal with that threat, the party should rally behind her.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
28. The party will rally behind her.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:26 PM
Nov 2018

We never want to be like Republicans, who are basically automatons. We can withstand a bit of debate. Nancy will win.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
29. She knows her stuff and it's no time for rookies
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:31 PM
Nov 2018

There's gonna be all kinds of legislation to pass, investigations and probably impeachment. Nancy knows all the ins and outs of the job and is tough as nails. We need her as speaker.

 

Wintryjade

(814 posts)
30. Nothing. She is an excellent Speaker of House that scare the bajeebus out Republicans.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 09:49 PM
Nov 2018

Pelosi is effective, smart, strong and focused. We are privileged having her stepping into the Leadership role with the mess we are in.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
31. Let her lay out her vision for the next two years and let the house members choose.
Fri Nov 9, 2018, 10:02 PM
Nov 2018

There's nothing wrong with Pelosi, but people need to stop acting like she's the only one capable of running the house, especially when a lot of the technical details are written down, handled by staffers paid to do so, and handled by committee chairs and their staffers. If she were to retire tomorrow, the house would not grind to a halt. It would continue on as it has for years.

This is about leadership, persuasion, trust and respect. If she can't use those qualities to get 218 votes, then she can't do the most basic part of her job anymore and doesn't deserve the Speakership. The same goes for any other house member that is unable to do the same. The Tim Ryan/Seth Moulton side can't manage 218, but I'm not convinced that there aren't others who could. I like Speaker Pelosi and want to see a Speaker Pelosi, however if she squeaks by, then it's going to be the second coming of Boehner, when tough legislation needs to pass and the caucus abandons her.

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