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mia

(8,360 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:28 AM Nov 2018

Is it possible that a U.S. Postal Service employee would try to sabotage the election process?

U.S. Postal Service investigates ballots mailed through Opa-locka facility

Local activists said an employee of the mailroom claimed scores of ballots had been sitting there for up to several weeks. But the Miami-Dade County Supervisor of Elections office said there was “zero” chance any ballots had been invalidated during the mailing process and that any ballots mailed late would eventually be delivered to them.


U.S. Rep. Frederica Wilson, whose district includes Opa-locka, said the USPS told her office that the ballots left behind at the facility were postmarked after Nov. 6 — Election Day — and thus were not eligible to be counted.

The Florida Division of Elections states on its website that absentee ballots must be received by the Supervisor of Elections office no later than 7 p.m. on Election Day. But a 10-day extension is offered for overseas voters, such as members of the military.

“We investigated the rumor because people were calling our office,” she said in a statement. “We learned from the post office supervisors we regularly deal with that they had ballots, but they were postmarked after the election and therefore not eligible to be counted. After every election an extensive sweep for ballots is conducted but that’s all they had.”



https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article221442850.html
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Is it possible that a U.S. Postal Service employee would try to sabotage the election process? (Original Post) mia Nov 2018 OP
I'd err on the side of caution before casting suspicion on USPS people, but... Girard442 Nov 2018 #1
Where does the USPS get off deciding not to deliver ballots? Hortensis Nov 2018 #2
True. If ballots were first class mail, USPS has the responsibility to oasis Nov 2018 #3
Glad to hear. Just checked on "first class" because Hortensis Nov 2018 #6
In my CA district, the return ballot envelopes are pre-paid. I oasis Nov 2018 #7
This is a federal crime. DURHAM D Nov 2018 #4
Where are the ballots now? 3Hotdogs Nov 2018 #5

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
1. I'd err on the side of caution before casting suspicion on USPS people, but...
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:10 AM
Nov 2018

...it's not too hard to imagine with all the demonization of Democrats going on that someone would jump in on their own.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Where does the USPS get off deciding not to deliver ballots?
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:13 AM
Nov 2018

This is NOT their decision!

Btw, Congresswoman Frederica Wilson is the one Trump's chief of staff, Gen. Kelly, gratuitously and outrageously lied about. I watched the entire video of the naming of the Miami FBI building ceremony she presided over, and she was very impressive, and delightful. She was reelected without opposition, and we can be glad she's on this.

"Mista Speaka, we have a problem!"



oasis

(49,376 posts)
3. True. If ballots were first class mail, USPS has the responsibility to
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 09:30 AM
Nov 2018

deliver every piece of mail under existing guidelines.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Glad to hear. Just checked on "first class" because
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 10:02 AM
Nov 2018

ballots are sometimes bulky and found that the USPS delivers ballots without proper postage.

Time Magazine: The U.S. Postal Service’s official policy is to deliver all absentee and mail-in ballots, regardless of whether they have proper postage, according to spokeswoman Sue Brennan. If there’s no stamp or not enough postage, the Postal Service charges the local board of elections instead.

“Technically, sending mail requires postage,” Brennan told TIME in an email. “Voters should affix a stamp to their ballot. But, if they do not, the Postal Service will still deliver it and charge the postage to the appropriate office.”

The USPS presumably can't charge the local board of elections until delivered... Very questionable.

Btw, here in GA Democratic GOTV callers were instructed to advise those who had requested mail-in ballots to preferably put 2 stamps on them because some counties ran over weight limits for one. Obviously more to know about this. Perhaps lack of proper postage delays delivery.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
7. In my CA district, the return ballot envelopes are pre-paid. I
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 04:50 PM
Nov 2018

assume it's the same throughout the state since we're the 7th largest economy on the planet.

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