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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 10:50 AM Nov 2018

F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes

In a landmark move bound to further shake the tobacco industry, the Food and Drug Administration plans to propose a ban on menthol cigarettes next week as part of its aggressive campaign against flavored e-cigarettes and some tobacco products, agency officials said.

The proposal would have to go through the F.D.A. regulatory maze, and it could be several years before such a restriction took effect, especially if the major tobacco companies contest the agency’s authority to do so. None of the major tobacco companies would comment on the possibility of barring menthol cigarettes at this early stage.

Canada has already imposed a ban on menthol cigarettes, and the European Union’s ban is set to go into effect in 2020. Earlier this year, San Francisco passed a prohibition against the sales of menthol cigarettes and flavored e-cigarettes.

The menthol proposal is just one of several initiatives the F.D.A. plans to announce sometime next week, including a ban on sales of most flavored e-cigarettes, except menthol and mint, at retail stores and gas stations across the country. The products, which include such flavors as chicken-and-waffles and mango, would be mainly relegated to sales online, at sites where the agency hopes to impose strict age verification to ensure that minors could not buy them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/09/health/fda-menthol-cigarettes-ban.html

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F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 OP
so much for small government CurtEastPoint Nov 2018 #1
So what prevents folks from adding flavor to ecigs? greymattermom Nov 2018 #2
They already do Jersey Devil Nov 2018 #4
Wait! Banning menthol cigarettes? KCDebbie Nov 2018 #3
It looks like they are try to ban all flavors marylandblue Nov 2018 #6
Are you lost? Did you accidentally join the wrong forum? KCDebbie Nov 2018 #18
Not lost, just an old guy who is fighting that "in the good old days we smoked tobacco" feeling marylandblue Nov 2018 #20
Because that's the only remaining "flavor" Codeine Nov 2018 #19
There is a racial twist to this Amira Nov 2018 #5
Why is FDA trying to ban flavors anyway? marylandblue Nov 2018 #7
"Do the flavors make it more hazardous?" left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 #9
The reason is because menthols were heavily marketed to the black community. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #11
I sort of think that is chicken and egg kind of thing Amira Nov 2018 #21
"Cool" menthol cigarettes were pegged to jazz culture, which was dominated by black people. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2018 #23
When I did smoke, the only cigs I ever wanted was menthol . If I ran out and somebody lunasun Nov 2018 #8
I too only smoked menthol left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 #10
Menthols way worse for emphysema, if you smoke menthols, go watch someone with Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #12
emphysema left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 #13
I have a touch of it, I suppose. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #14
My doc says I'm OK left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 #15
Great, my problem is my heart. And now cataracts. Shit, getting old. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #16
I'm 72 left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 #17
I can deal with them not selling ecigs at gas stations or whatever...yet they'll still offer cig's UniteFightBack Nov 2018 #22
Maybe they should ban the Tobacco and leave the flavor fescuerescue Nov 2018 #24

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
4. They already do
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:12 AM
Nov 2018

Ecig companies already sell "flavor shots" to add to e juice for those who want more flavor in their vapes. I vape, helped me completely quit 50 years of smoking for 4 years now. My lungs are clear according to my doctor, I no longer cough or wheeze and I feel great. I thinks this is a bit ridiculous.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. It looks like they are try to ban all flavors
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:40 AM
Nov 2018

But changing menthol rules is more complicated because they don't make chicken and waffle regular cigarettes.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
19. Because that's the only remaining "flavor"
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 02:16 PM
Nov 2018

for regular cigarettes. When they banned other flavors a while back menthol managed to stick around based on popularity, but it’s time to get rid of it as well.

Amira

(2 posts)
5. There is a racial twist to this
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:38 AM
Nov 2018

The single largest demographic of menthol smokers are African-Americans. It has deep roots in the community. Not sure why, but it is a heavy favorite.

With vaping its young people with candy flavors, but menthol is a clear favorite in my community.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
9. "Do the flavors make it more hazardous?"
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:53 AM
Nov 2018

I think more appealing.
Here are a few I found on Google:

Gummi Bear,
Banana Nut Bread,
Cotton Candy,
Peach Green Tea,
Pink Spot (hints of lime, raspberry, and pineapple),
Watermelon Wave,
Black Mamba (highlighted by blackberry, cranberry and hints of citrus),
Frozen Lime Drop,
Rip Tide (a hint of cool menthol, with raspberry and strawberry)

Amira

(2 posts)
21. I sort of think that is chicken and egg kind of thing
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:48 PM
Nov 2018

Not sure what came first. However, today, clearly most African-Americans smokers prefer menthols.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. When I did smoke, the only cigs I ever wanted was menthol . If I ran out and somebody
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:50 AM
Nov 2018

offered a non menthol yuck. There are probably many smokers still like that and would not cross over if no menthol or cut use down significantly just enough for nicotine fix .
I predict tobacco companies know this and will fight hard
I do not understand how laws can prohibit one kind but not another, yet looks like it's already being done places

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. I too only smoked menthol
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 11:56 AM
Nov 2018

I quit around 1992 when the price went up to $2 in Maine for the generic smokes.

I was smoking two packs a day,
so I was spending $120 a month on cigarettes.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
12. Menthols way worse for emphysema, if you smoke menthols, go watch someone with
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:17 PM
Nov 2018

emphysema trying to breathe.

Please.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. emphysema
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:21 PM
Nov 2018

My dad and mother-in-law died from smoking related emphysema.

One of my brothers died from lung cancer. His wife of 50 years was a chain smoker.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
14. I have a touch of it, I suppose.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 01:23 PM
Nov 2018

I smoked Marlboro red , two packs a day for many years, wont say how many.

Right now if I try and smoke one or a joint i cant breathe, so I dont.

But I think I stopped in time, had those been menthols all that time I would be dead.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
17. I'm 72
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 02:06 PM
Nov 2018

Went to the E.R. three times this summer due to my heart.
I'm now on Xarelto.

I have cataracts and Glaucoma; diabetes.

My biggest problem now is 'mobility'.
I can only walk short distances without having to stop to rest before continuing.

I see a motorized wheelchair in my future.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
22. I can deal with them not selling ecigs at gas stations or whatever...yet they'll still offer cig's
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 03:51 PM
Nov 2018

for sale at the same gas station?

Anyway I just don't want them to ban the flavored ecigs - it helped me stop smoking cig's and I'm lowering my nicotine levels gradually.

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