Are white people that aren't racist, but not comfortable voting for a minority welcome in the party?

[LexVegas]

Are these people, perhaps, telling us that we need to nominate a, hypothetically, old white guy? In order to get their support, I mean. Asking for a friend.

[hlthe2b]

1. when a Venn diagram is 100% overlapping, I think there is no one to consider remaining...

[Loki Liesmith]

2. What does "welcome in the party" even mean?

There are tons of white people in the Democratic Party. Some are not racist at all. A few are a little racist. Even fewer are very racist.

No one is kicking them out. We don’t have a membership committee.

[LincolnRossiter]

3. Uhhhhh. If they'd reject someone as a leader simply because of the color of his or her skin...

They’re racist. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

But if we happen to nominate someone white whom they approve of, I guess I’d take the vote.

[Hortensis]

20. Civic duty is a real-life thing, as real as the children who

still have not been reunited with their parents. Right now, many thousands of family separations are being planned by the Republicans. And right now detention camps that will cumulatively hold hundreds of thousands of people are being built.

Now. The constraints on the white nationalists who control two branches of our federal government of the midterms are past.

Perhaps under these circumstances refusing to vote for the strongest possible candidate to stop it would be immoral? Not everything is black and white, even when everything is somehow involving issues of black and white.

And, btw, imo this whole thread is mean, small, tedious shit-stirring. Is this really the quarrel we need to be having and we the people we need to be having it with?

[LincolnRossiter]

22. I'm not disagreeing with anything in your post, but I'm not sure how it's an appropriate response...

to mine.

[brush]

27. Yep, "soft" racism is still racism.

They don't use the "N" word but they don't vote for AAs either.

Not my kind of Democrat, stay with the repugs. We'll be all right without them.

[johnp3907]

4. Obi-Wan Kenobi 2020!

“Help us, Old White Guy. You're our only hope."

[bullwinkle428]

7. Jobi-Wan Kenobiden?

[groundloop]

5. Sorry, those hypothetical people ARE racist

IMO that's pretty much the definition of racism - negatively judging someone based on their skin tone.

As far as being 'welcome in the party', I'm not sure exactly what that's supposed to mean. Those folks are free to vote for whomever they want, beyond that I don't know what to say. It's not like we have to get a membership card or anything like that to vote for Democrats.

[Squinch]

6. Just because some non-Democrat who presides over an all white state says that

some non-racists won't vote for a minority candidate, it doesn't mean it's true.

He's clearly got his head up his ass.

If they won't vote for a minority candidate because the candidate is a member of a minority, that is the definition of racist.

No one with half a brain should be saying anything different.

[Skidmore]

13. Bingo! nt

[brush]

28. He kinda told on himself with that stupidity.

Explains maybe the non-showings the southern primaries in 2016.

[NastyRiffraff]

40. So obvious, but

apparently not all agree. But of course we saw this coming. There have been dog whistles all along. Now comes the police whistle.

[cyclonefence]

8. I would think that white people who are "not comfortable" voting for a minority candidate

would find a new party to join. Why on earth would they want to be Democrats?

[Bfd]

9. Money & Media ? Just a guess

Maybe someone will chime in on your valid question.

[marylandblue]

29. Maybe because they agree with Democrats on health care, but not civil rights

No reason a racist can't believe in universal health care.

[redstatebluegirl]

10. If a person is not "comfortable" voting for a minority, they are a racist and have no place

in our party.

[GeorgeGist]

11. Tell your friend his concerns sound racist.

[Crunchy Frog]

12. Isn't that pretty much the definition of "racist"?

[Voltaire2]

14. If you aren't "comfortable" with voting for somebody

because of their race, you are a racist.

[gollygee]

15. No such thing

Someone who isn't comfortable voting for a person of color because they are a person of color is by definition racist.

[harumph]

16. a white person that isn't comfortable voting for a person of color (just b/c of their color)

is racist by definition. That said - if a racist wants to vote for a Dem of any color for the "wrong" reasons (as I define them)...
I do not give a shit. I wouldn't socialize with such a person - but if they inadvertently help me - fine.|
The times are so dire, I don't think we have the luxury of ostracizing anyone. People will sink or rise to their
own level.

[fescuerescue]

17. Well I think they can join the party regardless

of what others in the party think.

[struggle4progress]

18. Prisencolinensinainciuso!

[LAS14]

23. What is this? nt

[marylandblue]

30. It's a 1970s Italian song written in fake English nt

[struggle4progress]

36. Meaningless noise that sounds like something if you're not paying attention

[Iggo]

21. No such thing. (n/t)

[uponit7771]

24. THIS !!!! ..... Is a great example of minimizing what racism is by redefining it

[aikoaiko]

25. Answer to 1st question: Yes. Answer to 2nd question: No

You're welcome. And you're friends is welcome.

[Horse with no Name]

26. When you see non-whites as "others"

You are a racist.

[Docreed2003]

31. I see what you did there

[wasupaloopa]

32. We do not say who is in the party and we vote in primaries for our

favorite candidate. The one with the most votes is our nominee.

So your questions are moot

[DFW]

33. Tell your friend this:

A. If he has a legitimate reason for not being comfortable voting for a candidate from a minority, he should enlighten us all with what that reason is. I would think his being welcome or not hinges on the coherency of such a reason.

B. If his reason for not being comfortable voting for a candidate from a minority is ridiculous, then he is probably better off keeping his mouth shut, as Democrats don't believe that there is any reason that is legitimate. The Republicans seem like their better alternative. What do we have to offer them?

C. This friend is only "uncomfortable," according to the OP, not emphatically opposed, to voting for a minority. Ergo, logically, they can handle a mild degree of discomfort. If the nominee is a from minority, then a majority of those who voted in the primary voted for that nominee. If THAT makes them uncomfortable, then they should move to Wyoming, or some such state where the likelihood of such an "uncomfortable" Democratic candidate is remote.

I don't think "these people" have any business telling the rest of us whom we "need to nominate." The majority nominates whoever it wants to nominate. If this friend is white and thinks they are a better candidate, they should by all means file to run.

[treestar]

34. I think not

There were racists who voted for Obama. I recall a story where someone knocking on doors met a woman who said “ we are voting for the (N word).

To be uncomfortable voting for a minority is the definition of racist. Why be uncomfortable? If they are the best candidate?

[ismnotwasm]

35. That's not how anything works actually

“I’m not a racist but” is not a Democratic Party value

[Fresh_Start]

37. It doesn't matter if they are comfortable...it matters what their actions are

if they are uncomfortable but still vote for the minority candidate, then they should be welcome.
if they are uncomfortable but refuse to vote for the minority candidate, did they vote against the democratic candidate ?

[Rizen]

38. We can't actually turn down voters

because they can vote for who ever they want. So we can't choose who's in the party or not :/

[dansolo]

39. I don't think people get the point you are making

Bernie is insinuating that the Democrats shouldn't nominate a POC for president in 2020.