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It rained a lot on us in Nam. Good thing Commander bone spurs was special.? (Original Post) pwb Nov 2018 OP
Yep! atreides1 Nov 2018 #1
I feel physically sickened by this level of disrespect. Not suprised, but truly sickened. hlthe2b Nov 2018 #2
Its the worst thing he has done. pwb Nov 2018 #4
. dalton99a Nov 2018 #3
Sadly, his dreams probably weren't good. Victor_c3 Nov 2018 #14
Those guys in the cemetery no doubt got their share of rain. Maybe died over there just from the brewens Nov 2018 #5
Monsoon ? What Monsoon ?? LOL n/t jaysunb Nov 2018 #6
Exactly. And Trump count handle a sprinkle? pwb Nov 2018 #8
Yet, General Kelley managed to do the 90 minute drive Victor_c3 Nov 2018 #12
Thank you for your service pwb! Wawannabe Nov 2018 #7
It was a long time ago. 1969 1970 pwb Nov 2018 #10
Even those of us who never served know rain and mud have nothing to do with military service. Pope George Ringo II Nov 2018 #9
It rained in Iraq too! Victor_c3 Nov 2018 #11
I know. i hoped saying everywhere Americans fought covered all places? pwb Nov 2018 #13
Yeah, it did cover everywhere Victor_c3 Nov 2018 #15
Hope you are going to the V. A. pwb Nov 2018 #16
Cadet Bone Spurs Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #17
He didn't learn how to operate an umbrella in cadet school. pwb Nov 2018 #18
probably had someone carry it for him Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #19
"Bubba, lean on me....." George II Nov 2018 #20
Think Bob Mueller and John Kerry got to stay in their tents Maine-i-acs Nov 2018 #21
Bone spurs would have been a frag target on day one. BSdetect Nov 2018 #22
Imagine him saying follow me? pwb Nov 2018 #23

dalton99a

(81,433 posts)
3. .
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 05:45 PM
Nov 2018


1968 Pulitzer Prize, Feature Photography, Toshio Sakai, United Press International

Being a soldier in Vietnam meant trudging through unfamiliar countryside, knowing the next moment could mean obliteration by a booby trap or a mine. It meant numbing boredom, followed by terrifying struggle.

On June I7, 1967, Japanese photojournalist Toshio Sakai crouches with the men of B Company, about 40 miles northeast of Saigon. They are dug in behind sandbags and mud banks, surrounded by deep jungle. It is Sakai’s first tour of Vietnam: "There was a commotion in the forest, then all became silent. Birds stopped chirping and insects quieted. My heart was beating fast. A tense atmosphere filled the air."

Suddenly, shells explode overhead. AK-47s crackle. It’s a Viet Cong attack. The Americans return the fire. The jungle explodes with bullets. But in the midst of battle, the heavens open up. The downpour is so intense it forces both sides to stop shooting. Minutes pass, then hours. The soldiers hunker down.

Despite the miserable wet, Sakai remembers it as a moment of peace: "I saw a black soldier lying on the bunker and taking a nap. Behind him, I saw another white soldier holding an M-16 rifle, crouching and watching. The sleeping soldier must have dreamt of better times in his homeland. I quietly released the shutter."

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
14. Sadly, his dreams probably weren't good.
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:09 PM
Nov 2018

I know mine aren’t.

The dreams I have of home almost always get interrupted by fighting and violence. I find myself setting up a machine gun position in my childhood bedroom because I have good fields of vision down a likely avenue if approach. The fence in my backyard is dangerous as it could conceal approaching enemy. Stuff like that permeates my dreams of home.

And lots of very realistic gore and loss.

When I was in Iraq, I thought dreams like that were almost funny. 15 years later, they are still with me and now I deal with trying to protect my children in my dreams. It’s not funny anymore and they don’t go away.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
5. Those guys in the cemetery no doubt got their share of rain. Maybe died over there just from the
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 05:47 PM
Nov 2018

flu because of it. The piss stained pervert doesn't want to be in the wind and rain and let us see his baboon ass hairdo again!

pwb

(11,258 posts)
8. Exactly. And Trump count handle a sprinkle?
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 05:56 PM
Nov 2018

Choppers can fly in rain. I'm sure he will say the secret service grounded his chopper? Bullshit.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
12. Yet, General Kelley managed to do the 90 minute drive
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:00 PM
Nov 2018

If it was important to him, trump would have been there.

He couldn’t even be bothered to come up with a lame excuse like “I was sick”?!?!?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
11. It rained in Iraq too!
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 05:58 PM
Nov 2018

Well, only around December to March (and nothing like a monsoon in Vietnam).

Rain is perfect weather for a memorial service. It sets a somber mood for what the day means to those who served. BBQ, beaches, fun, and a great deal on a mattress isn’t what these days mean to me.

pwb

(11,258 posts)
13. I know. i hoped saying everywhere Americans fought covered all places?
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:05 PM
Nov 2018

There are so many. Thanks.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
15. Yeah, it did cover everywhere
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 06:17 PM
Nov 2018

But I’m fundamentally a jerk and couldn’t resist being “more correct”.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,320 posts)
17. Cadet Bone Spurs
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:17 PM
Nov 2018

Sen. Tammy Duckworth dubbed him Cadet Bone Spurs. He's earned no promotion.

(Just a minor nit I had to pick).

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,320 posts)
19. probably had someone carry it for him
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 07:30 PM
Nov 2018

He's an embarassment to civilians; I can only imagine how vets feel.

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
21. Think Bob Mueller and John Kerry got to stay in their tents
Sat Nov 10, 2018, 08:51 PM
Nov 2018

when it was raining in Vietnam during their tours?

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