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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen the GOP wins, the media calls it a mandate for change.
When the Democrats win, the media counsels bi-partisanship.
And that is the essence of how the US conservative media handles politics.
When Bush Jr. stole the 2000 election, all we read in the corporate media was talk of his mandate, and how much the GOP could do.
When Obama actually won his election, twice in fact, all we read in the corporate media was advice that Obama and the Democrats should reach out to the GOP and move to the center.
And this center that the media refers to is actually moving steadily rightward, even as the US population moves in a progressive direction.
It is this steady progressive movement of the electorate that compels the GOP to cheat, to suppress votes, and to do everything that they can to limit voting to racists and billionaires.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)Liberal media, my ass
Tom Rivers
(459 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)Caliman73
(11,726 posts)Even extreme right wing ideology, you know, that which most Republicans endorsed quietly but would run away from publicly has been given a pass in recent years. It is why David Duke's or Alex Jones' endorsement is no longer the kiss of death for a candidate. Any right wing action is done in defense of the status quo, the concentration of wealth and power into the hands of wealthy, White, Christian (if only in name) men. That is it. That is why it is tolerated now.
Anything progressive or further left is a threat to the standing social and economic order. Even though progressives tend to work from within the existing framework, the end goal is to open up the system to the experience of people who have been historically under represented in society and/or actively suppressed. That scares the shit out of the powers that be. Which is why Neo-nazis are just "uncomfortable" with the way things are going but not really racists, while a center left person is considered a flaming Bolshevik who is going to burn down the world.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)In my area outside of Chicago, an actual Nazi received over 56,000 GOP votes as he ran against Dan Lipinski for the 3rd District.
Think about that. Over 56,000 GOP voters cast their ballots for an actual Nazi.
Over 56,000 GOP voters were comfortable voting for a Nazi.
If 56,000 Democratic voters had voted for a Communist the local and national media would be covering this non-stop.
malaise
(268,844 posts)most of the time.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Leslie Moonves, the disgraced former head of a major network, said that Trump may be bad for America, but he is great for CBS.
Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)Maybe someone should revisit video archives to help the media see their own hypocrisy?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)What is needed is another Fairness Doctrine.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I know this is part of the narrative that the media spews, but where the hell do they get this? They are NOT fiscally responsible. They are NOT environmentally responsible. They are NOT morally responsible in any way. When will the media hold them accountable for their actions? My guess is never. We need to find a better alternative to the media we have now.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)It is in your second sentence.
The conservative, corporate controlled media serves the rich 1% by deceiving the rest of us in the 99%. Or trying to.
DU is one small part of the answer, but the rich have a money advantage.
One part of the solution is returning the top marginal tax rate to around 90%. That would be a huge step.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Dems get blamed for poor messaging, but that simply isn't true. We need to figure out a way of wresting narrative control from the right... permanently.
It seems strange to me that only center to far right media has a voice. I listen to NPR thinking it will be more liberal, but they pride themselves on providing information "from both sides". There are the rare interviewers who prod conservatives, but mostly they let their respondents give "information".
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And often that "information" from the GOP is false. Framing a lie as simply another opinion is mis-framing.
Tom Rivers
(459 posts)They don't care about "fiscal responsibility" as long as they get theirs. They're getting the payoff to spew the BS, so it's okay.
They don't care about "environmental responsibility" because that hurts their corporate overlords in Big Oil and Big Agra who are all about abusing natural resources to the betterment of their bottom line, not seriously looking for alternatives for the betterment of society.
They don't care about "moral responsibility" because the rubes already believe that conservative = moral, and the only "moral" issues rural voters have been conditioned to care about are pre-marital sex (ONLY when it applies to liberals), choice and birth control (again, ONLY when it applies to liberals), and LGBTQ (ONLY when it applies to liberals, but any conservative gay must remain in the closet and advocate against them like good little foot soldier Little Lindsey). Lying, cheating, stealing, inciting hatred and violence? Perfectly fine to rural evangelicals, and media toadies are okay with that because they know they'll vote to keep their cash cows in power.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Follow the money.
Fullduplexxx
(7,851 posts)When cons filibustered, the media would say dems failed to reach the 60 vote minimum
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And when the GOP claims to be a values party, the unspoken corollary is that the Democratic Party is not a values party.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)whenever we call into talk radio, write to our representatives or speak to other citizens. It needs to become a battle cry.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)we must reframe the narrative, and we must, as you say, remind our Representatives of this. We do not need cautious centrism.
Initech
(100,054 posts)The media is owned by republicans who then turn around and convince other republicans that the media is against their best interests, and then we get Donald Trump, who has all but declared war on the press. Funny how that works!
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And zero percent of the mass media will talk about that.
rainy
(6,089 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And that is why the GOP must suppress the vote.
rainy
(6,089 posts)Need to be written. Its insane how much money is spent on elections. Its corrupting our government to the core.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Comcast Media(NBC MSNBC) as well as Disney ABC and Viacom(CBS)are fostering the narratives of,Pelosi is the Dems Enemy and needs to go,next is this bullcrap about bi-partisanship. And it went viral as soon as the Dems secured the House Tuesday Evening. Before then,you could here the test messaging being used by Media Management .
Chuckie Toad is the Canary in the Coal Mine for Media test messaging. Remember,each time you click on a TV channel,someone is keeping track and it is Monetized .
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)If the GOP had kept the House, the media narrative would have been that the Democrats moved too far to the left.
underpants
(182,717 posts)Wall to wall leads on newscasts and morning shows. Some old white person standing up and screaming the same corporate penned nonsense (and racist) crap the old white person yesterday said and another would the next day.
A major news network actually hosted events across the country for these people.
The line between what W did and Obama was effectively blurred. The GOP/RNC was dead after 2006. Massive flips all over the country and Pelosi became Speaker. 2006 is rarely mentioned because people might remember how horrific W was.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But white racists are considered to be "authentic Americans". And many of these Tea Party protests were violent.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)Exactly.
What is classified "Centrist Dem" today was pretty much the mainstream (aka Rockerfeller) GOP platform up 'til the 70's.
Even a centrist like John Kennedy looks far left when compared to the current political spectrum.
lancelyons
(988 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)I write regular letters to local media outlets, and they are regularly published, but my reach is tiny compared to the conservative media.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Their conservative GOP bent is so damn obvious!
Trump commits outrage after outrage. Crime after crime. Lie after lie and 90% of the time they dont even mention it!
Scubamatt
(33 posts)have rarely been spoken. IMHO, our priority should be upon reestablishment of the anchors of our democracy, which include: oversight and checks and balances; election integrity (combat voter suppression, gerrymandering and dark money/Citizens United) and, to the OPs main point, resestablishment of a FAIR PRESS. While Trumps excesses have awakened some slumbering sense of journalis, all it takes is a breath of life from our side, and the media resorts to its old canard of how we have to compromise, etc. No matter what substantive policies we are ever able to enact, they pale in importance to re-establishing the fair, level playing field that is essential to democracy. Start by bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, reestablishing Net Neutrality, investigate why 90% of our news comes from 6-7 corporations, and find some way to marginalize Faux news.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)The billionaires control the media, and the schools, and therefor, the framing of the debate.
spanone
(135,802 posts)the media grabbed that and ran with it like an Olympic Miler
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And the media, with the attention span of a Mayfly, moved on to the next scary object.
spanone
(135,802 posts)budkin
(6,699 posts)The fact that we continue to make progressive advances, albeit slowly over time, is amazing to me.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But the capitalists are doing their best to turn back the clock and the calendar.