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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,881 posts)
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:26 PM Nov 2018

Stalled talks with North Korea indicate larger unravelling of progress

The cancelation of a highly anticipated meeting between Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and North Korean officials has experts worried the quest for Pyongyang’s denuclearization is quietly unraveling.

Progress on North Korea's denuclearization has stalled in the five months since President Trump and Kim Jong Un’s meeting in June in Singapore as both sides are unwilling to make concessions.

The issue has largely been unnoticed leading up to Tuesday’s midterm elections.

“If no one is willing to make the first major concession and talks collapse, we could be on a path that takes us back to the days of fire and fury and name calling. And that is a path that could take us once again to the brink of nuclear war,” said Harry Kazianis, director of defense studies at the Center for the National Interest.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/416077-stalled-talks-with-north-korea-indicate-larger-unravelling-of-progress

But I thought Mr. Art of the Deal and Kim Fattypuff had fallen in love?

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Stalled talks with North Korea indicate larger unravelling of progress (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2018 OP
That Trump Nobel Prize is coming any day now! manor321 Nov 2018 #1
Maybe there's a wall keeping it away? keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #5
Dictator-for-real Kim knows he's nothing but a Bullshitter spanone Nov 2018 #2
There has never been any "progress" to begin with. Just a photo op and lies. ooky Nov 2018 #3
That assumes that there was something real there to come unravelled... Wounded Bear Nov 2018 #4
More hardline wrongheaded policies soryang Nov 2018 #6

ooky

(8,922 posts)
3. There has never been any "progress" to begin with. Just a photo op and lies.
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

Kim has never given up anything, and has never intended to give up his nukes.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
4. That assumes that there was something real there to come unravelled...
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 09:33 PM
Nov 2018

It never seemed to me that there was anything more than a bullshit handshake agreement between two liars.

What the hell was there to come unravelled?

soryang

(3,299 posts)
6. More hardline wrongheaded policies
Sun Nov 11, 2018, 10:03 PM
Nov 2018

Since the Singapore Summit, the US has returned to the hardline "my way or the highway" approach. The "all the time in the world" statements are actually a return to regime change strategies, hoping that the failed harvests in North Korea damaged by drought and then a typhoon this year, will bring instability and collapse of the regime. Additional pressure is being placed on the Koreas by attempting to force a decision on the resumption of major joint military exercises in South Korea for 2019 by Dec. 1, in other words in less than three weeks. What's the hurry if you have all the time in the world?

President Moon's shipment of Cheju tangerines to North Korea is an example of "reciprocity" in positive diplomatic relations, a negotiating process the current administration pretends not to understand, although they adopted it to get to Singapore when it was politically expedient to do so.

This was probably the best article on how to get somewhere in the denuclearization process.

How to Structure Sanctions Relief in Any Future DPRK Deal
BY: RICHARD NEPHEW

https://www.38north.org/2018/11/rnephew110718/

Nephew's article addresses how to proceed with sanctions issues, step by step on a basis of reciprocity. An additional matter that could be considered in addition to pending South Korean initiatives are the humanitarian aid issues which are impeded or blocked by the current sanctions.


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