Something strange goin on

[queentonic]

Years ago I was a field investigator and operated off the William James model that we are creatures of habit and the Fritz Perls concept of the Gestalt, that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. These models worked for me because I had about a 90 percent or more success rate in my investigations that held up in the state circuit court. That is why I am becoming aware that something is seriously going on with Trump. His disastrous trip to Paris and his total lack of involvement in the Veterans' Day events tells me that he is becoming completely dysfunctional and that something major is going on or is imminent in happening. I can only speculate what that might be, but I do believe he knows something that has caused him to retreat as much as possible into his man-cave. And what will the Republicans do if he gets worse and has a total breakdown? The 25th Amendment is a gigantic hurdle to overcome so I don't believe that is an option. Any thoughts on this would appreciated. I do feel Trump's days are numbered. His behaviors appear to indicate that and he knows it.

[demsocialist]

1. It could be that Jr is about to be indicted.

His behavior is odd but how can you tell. He is always strange.

[PatSeg]

46. True

But he certainly is stranger than usual. It is like he really doesn't care anymore. He even went off on Theresa May when she called to congratulate Trump on his mid-term election wins.

[Grasswire2]

2. people are saying elsewhere that odd things are happening (not happening) on twitter..

....that some RW entities have deleted whole twitter feeds, that FOX hasn't tweeted for four days, etc.

[RHMerriman]

4. There's something happening here...

There's something happening here...

1) Cohen is in DC;
2) Mueller's staff was working today (federal holiday);
3) Whitaker's public statements regarding recusal;
4) McSally conceding;
5) Scott and Kemp backing down;
6) Corsi's hissy fit;
7) Trump flying to Paris, but missing the public events he was allegedly there to attend;
8) Rumor about Nielsen being fired, but Kelly balking; and
9) Trump and Pence hunkered down today, rather than in public at Arlington, Walter Reed, wherever (really, showing up somewhere on Veteran's Day is Politics 101, especially for Pubs who never served)...

[NJCher]

8. Corsi

Corsi was way over the top. I laughed my head off all the way through the story at the NY Daily News. Histrionics. His life is ruined. Seriously, if you haven't read this, it's a great source of amusement:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-pol-corsi-stone-charged-mueller-20181112-story.html

Good list. I agree, something is up.

Maybe it's just as simple as there's a new sheriff in town.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

9. #8 has happened. Nielsen's been sacked.

[RHMerriman]

47. Not yet...

[link:https://www.dhs.gov/secretary|]

[pnwmom]

17. I believe Pence traveled to Japan. But there are a lot of weird things going on. n/t

[Squinch]

18. I'd add Murdoch's visit to McConnell to that list.

[Grasswire2]

23. your subject line triggered an old song in my mind...

.....There's something happening here.
What it is ain't exactly clear...

Lyrics
There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's s time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down

[redstatebluegirl]

28. Buffalo Springfield, love this song!

[dajoki]

29. Love that song, reminds me of old times n/t

[OriginalGeek]

40. I first heard it when I was a kid

but on the Muppet show

I was much older before I found out it was a "real" song lol.

[tableturner]

55. Here's the original version of Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth".

[lagomorph777]

31. Hundreds of upper-echelon fascists (gov't, Fox, Twitter) have gotten wind of their indictments

and are keeping mum to avoid making things any worse for themselves.

[Hekate]

3. He's really decompensating, isn't he? It's pretty scary. nt

[Nay]

27. That's what it looks like to me, too. This could be a very dangerous time. nt

[lamsmy]

5. He could be ill

After his last rally in the US before heading to France, he elected to stay in a local hotel rather than flying directly back to Washington as he normally does. Trump hates staying in strange beds.

Melania let him hold her hand as they descended the steps of AF1 upon arrival in France.

Skipped WW1 cemetery on Saturday.

Did not walk up the length of Champs Elysee with other world leaders. Instead he was driven to a spot closer to the dias and only walked (slowly) a short distance.

Skipped visiting Arlington cemetery on Veteran's Day.

Won't admit to being ill because of the many times he called Hillary "weak".

[queentonic]

6. Excellent observation

I think you're on to something. It could be both mental and physical with both collapsing on him. Perhaps the 25th Amendment isn't that far off after all. Thanks for the input. This is also running parallel with other posts about odd behaviors going on with RW media. I'd say it may be just days or at most two weeks away before this breaks out into the open.

[DFW]

13. That would be my guess as well.

I don't think it is a stretch at this point to hazard the speculation that his ego is more powerful than his sense of self-preservation. If thee is a legitimate medical report on his condition, we can be quite confident that no part of it that reveals any weakness will ever reach the pubic's ears.

Trump would rather go out to the cheers of the MAGgots than to the silent scorn of a base betrayed.

[Arkansas Granny]

15. Illness and/or exhaustion. All the rallies and travelling in the past few weeks

could take a lot out of a person his age. He sometimes did 3 rallies a day. We know he's out of shape and that medical report he released was a total sham.

We've also noticed that his makeup has become more and more orange in the last few weeks. It's not hard to imagine that he has a serious medical issue happening.

[scarytomcat]

42. maybe he wants to resign for medical reasons

since he knows things are not going to keep going his way
he can read the writing on the bathroom wall

[luvallpeeps]

52. he can read the writing on the wall....

Or have it read to him like the rest of his briefs.

[Squinch]

19. I am not this person, and I hate to say this, but if he is ill, it is the best possibility for

the country.

If he is just pouting and angry about the election and the fact that he didn't get his military parade, and if he feels cornered by the fact he will now have oversight, he will do something horrible like start a war to distract us and get the country to like him again. Or he will rile up his base to get out there with their guns and punish us.

If he is sick, we may not have to worry about such a thing.

[lagomorph777]

32. Send a few more buckets of KFC to the White House.

That oughta clog the last coronary artery.

[ecstatic]

49. Lol!

[Qutzupalotl]

51. He's got Mueller fever. n/t

[dawg day]

53. Icy Melania felt sorry enough for him to hold his hand?

Yeah, he must be falling apart.

[The empressof all]

7. It's an intervention

If Trump knows his “base” isn’t there to report and magnify what he tweets, they are hoping he will lay off the twitter too. And yes, they are doing some pre emptive reduction of the audience to mute what’s going to come down soon

[NJCher]

10. On Nov. 11

ABC had a story on the evening news that said the Dems were going to investigate Trump's hush money to Stormy and that other woman (can't think of her name).

[PJMcK]

57. Karen McDougal

In the wider view, Trump's life of corruption is percolating upwards and into broader public view. He has tremendous pressure from many directions and all of the causes are dire. I love that he must hate his life!


ETA: I've made this point previously so pardon me for repeating it: The most stupid thing that Trump ever did was to run for president. He had no idea that his entire life would eventually be revealed. Had he simply continued his life as it was, he would have been able to continue all of his sleazy activities and "businesses." By the end of this saga, I believe he'll be ruined. He's an idiot.

[NJCher]

58. that is a frequent topic/conclusion at our dinnertime political conversations

Because he is so focused on himself, he doesn't see the broader picture that the lives of public figures are scrutinized. They are particularly scrutinized when the figure is a major d&*ck, so he has the double whammy going for himself here.

I agree that by the end of this saga, he will be ruined. I look forward to that day and will have a toast to honor his demise.

[Louis1895]

11. 25th?

Is he firing people to get rid of those he suspects would participate in the 25th amendment process?

[BamaRefugee]

12. It's far simpler: Paris was where Putin broke up with him

He played “You Don’t Own Me” and “It’s My Party” by Lesley Gore on an endless loop all the way home on Air Force One.

[BigOleDummy]

14. Actually....

… it could be something along those lines. He got an ultimatum from his handler and knows he can't deliver now that we control the house. Would not surprise me a bit if Putin releases some or all the dirt/traitorous actions he has on our chump in chief very soon.

As for all the right wing nut bars being quiet...… they are all huddled together trying to figure out how to spin the coming revelations from both Putin and Mueller so that A: THEY aren't held responsible and B: can figure out a way to spin this to the mindless trumpsters so that they can still maintain a modicum of power/influence.

[Squinch]

20. But then why would Putin give him the public "thumbs up?"

[BigOleDummy]

22. Ever hear of snark?

Or sarcasm? Both of which I think applies here. Putins just fucking with him now, making him dance like the puppet he is.

[BamaRefugee]

36. Bingo, and what a great profile pic for when the subject of epic snark arises!

[lagomorph777]

33. Ancient Rome, thumbs up & thumbs down meant the opposite of what many think

[link:https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/08/03/ancient-rome-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-meant-the-opposite-of-what-many-think/|
]

[flibbitygiblets]

34. Trump got his quarterly employee review from Putin, which probably involved direct threats

something along the lines of "get those sanctions removed by Xmas OR ELSE"

This could very well be true, and if so, it's not like that's going to be public news (for a number of reasons)

[Achilleaze]

16. republican misleader Dirty Donny* cowering in his man cave**

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
** at taxpayer expense

[duforsure]

21. He looks sick , not well

And wouldn't be surprised if with everything closing in on him and his gang he's cracking, and his health is taking a toll on him now. Wouldn't be shocked if he knows its already all over with , and he and his family are facing serious jail time. Criminals always get depressed right before they know it'll be over. Bernie Maddoff was like that too knowing he was done. He have a few more fits but i think too many know now what has taken place , and he can't stop it from exposing him fully as a treasonous fraud. Now its just a matter of time .

[Grasswire2]

24. and no rallies to prop him up. nt

[Johnny2X2X]

25. Or he's throwing a temper tantrum for not getting his parade

The parade was supposed to happen for Veteran's Day, he's likely pouting this week because he didn't get his parade.

[AJT]

26. The movie Dave? Use a pumpkin with a rug on it to take his place?

[flibbitygiblets]

35. The resemblance is breathtaking! Most of his "fans" would never even notice...

[NJCher]

59. that is hilarious!

good find.

[Blue_true]

30. I vacillate back and forth between wanting him out now and having him run in 2020.

If republicans keep propping him up as he degrades more, a point will come when they can't hide him, like 2020 campaign stops and debates with the democrat. I want him in the 2020 race, I want him to fall down and chew the floor at debates, while barking like a puppy, I want that ALL beamed into the living rooms of the assholes that voted for him in 2016. At his campaign stops, I want him saying such insane shit that even his formerly adoring maggots will be looking around for a straightjacket for him.

[MoonRiver]

37. He could just resign.

[Volaris]

39. The instant he does he will get smacked with a half dozen state level indictments

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

38. "any thoughts on this?" Yes, pray for the health of liberal Justices of the Supreme Court.

And elect a Dem in 2020.

Any solution that removes Trump is a solution that elevates President Pence. Right-wing, and a true believer. Yikes.

[Dan]

41. I suspect that it's something as simple as

someone explaining to him what it means to have the House no longer under GOP control. His shield is broken - and his ass is exposed.

[wiggs]

43. He's just realizing that we aren't a nation grateful and appreciative of his service. He has likely

been under the impression that he is awesome and is doing great (fake survey polls notwithstanding). But with midterms, polls, UN laughter, and daily mocking he may either be questioning his performance (not likely) or beginning to believe that he will never get the universal adulation he so clearly deserves.

So what does he do? Quit? Screw us over for the ingrates we are? Or mentally check out? Looks like he's checking out...possibly assisted by deterioration in mental faculties? Lots of confusion and anger....

[Dan]

44. I loved your opening sentence. But having said that

I think that he has surrounded himself with people that reinforces the view that he has of himself. Sadly, he has been badly served by this group of people.

[Initech]

45. Who ya gonna call? Trumpbusters!

[Demonaut]

48. they have been preparing for the day when some sort of coup will take place

our governmental structure may soon be in serious trouble.

[Hamlette]

50. seems like something like this happened when he went to Canada

[nolabear]

54. It's the stuff of much speculation all right.

As I said on a thread I posted, I’m an old shrink and my spidey sense is tingling like crazy. I don’t know what’s up, but I’m betting there’s a whole lot that will be told someday.

[solara]

56. I have the distinct feeling that this "post election meltdown" of trump's

might be a true end game and that trump's panic and desolation are far more profound and extreme than anyone discerns right now.

trump may not be fully aware of his deepest feelings yet, but I think he is becoming fatalistic about how everything will end. He may now have the mindset of a vaguely self-aware animal who suspects he is completely cornered and will finally recognize irrevocably there is no way out.

He cannot resign, he cannot allow himself to be impeached or arrested, he cannot back down. He knows he is losing control and once it is gone he will never get it back. Perhaps he finally accepts that his base is useless because the mid-terms rubbed his face in it. He cannot continue to function if the unabridged truth of himself as the terrified, infantile "worst president ever" is allowed to corrode his manufactured and zealously guarded self-delusion.

He is beginning to comprehend the extent of his own personal deficiencies and is most likely extremely frightened that his innate weakness is certain to be revealed. He is a malignant narcissist who is cornered and desperate.

IMHO, the people near him need to be considerably more diligent and watch him very closely. He is not the kind of creature who will take himself out alone.

[Talitha]

60. They say timing is everything,

But I'm not exactly sure of the order of events... did Spanky start withdrawing 'before' or 'after' seeing Pootie? If it was 'after', then maybe Pootie finally threw him under the bus and Spanky finally realizes he was being toyed with.

("Don't cry, Comrade... we'll always have Paris".)