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Mueller has convened a Grand Jury (Original Post) Roland99 Nov 2018 OP
This is huge malaise Nov 2018 #1
convene or hand down indictments? Thomas Hurt Nov 2018 #2
The Grand Jury hands down the indictment. Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #7
What does this mean I wonder? Why now? triron Nov 2018 #3
Haven't seen any real updates in over an hour Roland99 Nov 2018 #4
Cohen has lots to testify about, could be more than 1 day. Shrike47 Nov 2018 #8
See Michael sing. Sing, Michael, sing! calimary Nov 2018 #35
Not sure about Federal, but I think State/Local Grand Juries sit for one day a week. George II Nov 2018 #10
Tick tock tick tock tick freaking tock! Blue Owl Nov 2018 #5
Trying not to get my hopes up. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #6
This could explain trump's early winter hibernation... George II Nov 2018 #9
Lol. Well said! Tipperary Nov 2018 #23
K&R PatSeg Nov 2018 #11
Gonna make it RAIN up in there! Cirque du So-What Nov 2018 #12
Yay, hard pouring rain I hope iluvtennis Nov 2018 #32
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall alterfurz Nov 2018 #50
so he is getting close brettdale Nov 2018 #13
UPDATE - Might be Corsi Roland99 Nov 2018 #14
And this blaze Nov 2018 #16
Who's gonna flip first?? Roland99 Nov 2018 #21
Please don't be another Fitzmas. Be a Holiday "MuellTidal" wave!! flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #15
Love the GIF! Roland99 Nov 2018 #18
Would make my year Wawannabe Nov 2018 #43
Whoop! Let the court games begin! ananda Nov 2018 #17
I think this one might be more recent? FakeNoose Nov 2018 #19
Or sometime this week. There's really no way to know. bearsfootball516 Nov 2018 #22
STAKEOUT! nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #46
I feel like a little bit of Rocky Mountain Mike: Ilsa Nov 2018 #20
It is what it is. We can speculate all we want. thbobby Nov 2018 #24
I have no doubts about Mueller or his investigation. They're cuing "Gotterdammerung" at the WH. marble falls Nov 2018 #25
Ten bucks says volstork Nov 2018 #33
Not intellectually, maybe, but in spirit they do. Can you imagine the stink of cheetolini's ... marble falls Nov 2018 #38
Just this: volstork Nov 2018 #39
Trumpsky's Tarnhelm is about to lose its magical powers. Harker Nov 2018 #49
Mueller and his team are top notch, no doubt True Dough Nov 2018 #26
Oh please, oh please let it be Don Jr they are after. Marie Marie Nov 2018 #27
God help the USA now.... nt Hekate Nov 2018 #28
Call me optimistic but I pray for the Mike Pence connection to appear on the calendar. Ford_Prefect Nov 2018 #29
That would be perfect lefthandedskyhook Nov 2018 #34
Does NOT work like that. Never has. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #36
I remember Agnew/Nixon lefthandedskyhook Nov 2018 #41
That is the sequence I was considering in posting above. Ford_Prefect Nov 2018 #42
Weak tRump + weak pence + lefthandedskyhook Nov 2018 #44
Grand jury is convened to hear evidence in secret. Hate these fake outs. The cameras maybe there to Pepsidog Nov 2018 #30
My money's on Don Jr. Corsi will roll gldstwmn Nov 2018 #31
Rachel should be interesting tonight NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #37
I once served on a federal grand jury Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2018 #40
Off topic, but what does a grand jury look like? Poiuyt Nov 2018 #47
It looks more like a classroom Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2018 #48
Thank you! Poiuyt Nov 2018 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Wawannabe Nov 2018 #45

Brother Buzz

(36,388 posts)
7. The Grand Jury hands down the indictment.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:03 PM
Nov 2018

That is, after the prosecutor convenes the jury to present the case.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. This could explain trump's early winter hibernation...
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:07 PM
Nov 2018

...since getting home from his humiliating European Vacation.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
19. I think this one might be more recent?
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:24 PM
Nov 2018



TOP ROPE TRAVIS
@TopRopeTravis:

A source who works in the same office building as Special Counsel, provided an image of press set up outside of the main entrance. They also report, every entrance to the building has camera crews positioned. No sightings of Mueller or Cohen today.


Anonymous Fed
@EvilBobJ

Press still outside federal courthouse in DC. They have not seen Michael Cohen make an appearance and said they will most likely be posted up here all week.



Something is definitely up but it's not happening today. They must be getting ready for tomorrow

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
24. It is what it is. We can speculate all we want.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nov 2018

Something is up. That is about the limit of my knowledge, or anyone else's outside team Mueller. Mueller is crafty. What will happen and when it will happen is just speculation. Still, I am checking news sources almost hourly.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
38. Not intellectually, maybe, but in spirit they do. Can you imagine the stink of cheetolini's ...
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 08:06 PM
Nov 2018

bunker? Knee deep in big macs, fries and and awash in diet Coke.

Harker

(13,987 posts)
49. Trumpsky's Tarnhelm is about to lose its magical powers.
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:40 AM
Nov 2018

When his true nature is fully revealed, his most loyal sycophants will love him all the more.

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
26. Mueller and his team are top notch, no doubt
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 05:05 PM
Nov 2018

But, to be honest, the info coming from TeaPain isn't always reliable. I'm not getting my hopes up until something official is announced.

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
29. Call me optimistic but I pray for the Mike Pence connection to appear on the calendar.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 05:47 PM
Nov 2018

He's every bit as dirty as the rest of them. He oversaw the Transition team and appears to have coordinated with various Russian actors during that time.

They appear to have gone to great lengths to obscure his activities.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
36. Does NOT work like that. Never has.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 06:51 PM
Nov 2018

tRump and Pence would have to be convicted in the Senate simultaneously.

Not going to happen.

lefthandedskyhook

(964 posts)
41. I remember Agnew/Nixon
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

You are correct, Gerald Ford was appointed. The US Constitution is currently subverted in its very purpose and must be revived

Ford_Prefect

(7,873 posts)
42. That is the sequence I was considering in posting above.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 10:14 PM
Nov 2018

Mike enthusiastically plays for the dark side according to his own remarks.

If Pence is under indictment then he would have to take the same path as Agnew before him and resign. That would seem to close some theoretical doors presently argued as open.

My point is that the Pence information is most likely in the hands of the Grand Jury and should be made widely public as soon as judicially possible in order to head off the expected "revolt". I think we must shut down any theoretical options the other side has plans to exploit, especially those based on the pretense of Pence's alleged ignorance of Russian ties.

lefthandedskyhook

(964 posts)
44. Weak tRump + weak pence +
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 11:12 PM
Nov 2018

New Democratic Senate/House/Presidency will be the solution. Send the criminals to prison then

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
30. Grand jury is convened to hear evidence in secret. Hate these fake outs. The cameras maybe there to
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 05:48 PM
Nov 2018

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catch a glimpse of a witness, Cohen, but the GJ isn’t going to hear evidence, hand down indictment and then Muelller walks outside to announce. All this prognosticating that indictments are coming is exhausting. I want indictments as mush as the next guy but to much ”crying wolf” on DU.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
37. Rachel should be interesting tonight
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 07:29 PM
Nov 2018

I'm sure NBC/MSNBC has people at the courthouse.

The waiting is the hardest!

Poiuyt

(18,117 posts)
47. Off topic, but what does a grand jury look like?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:04 AM
Nov 2018

I mean physically. How is the room set up, how are the jurors seated, how do the prosecutors present their case, etc. I assume it does not look like a Perry Mason type courtroom.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,741 posts)
48. It looks more like a classroom
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:13 AM
Nov 2018

It was set in a nondescript room several floors up in a federal building roughly 8-10 stories high in downtown Houston. I would guess the size to be maybe 15x20 feet. Three rows of jurors chairs similar to what you would find in a classroom, with a small table attached to give you something to write on. All 23 of us heard the prosecutors presentation - 11 were alternates. The chairs faced a table at the front at which one or two prosecutors and any witnesses sat. some jurors took notes, some did not, and some slept sometimes (maybe they were the alternates?). We were pretty isolated. We had our own bathrooms and a small sitting area outside the jury room

We were on call one week out of every month, but sometimes we were called and told that we didn’t need to come that day. Some days we were only there a short time, other days it was a full day.

As you probably have heard, it is a rather one sided affair. We were admonished by the judge, at the beginning of our term, to not just be a rubber stamp for the prosecutors, but when you only hear from one side, usually an indictment is returned. I remember one case where the facts didn’t seem that convincing. I think the prosecutors could tell from the questions we were asking that there was a lot of skepticism. So they discontinued their presentation and took the case to another grand jury, rather than take the chance of our jury returning a “No Bill”.

Juries usually seve for a 12 month period, but can be extended, and our term lasted 15 months.

Poiuyt

(18,117 posts)
51. Thank you!
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:28 PM
Nov 2018

Those are so secretive, it's nice to hear a firsthand account. Now I have a mental picture.

BTW, you would have thought they would have gotten more comfortable chairs for you!

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