AOC's protest is a big nothing burger

[RandySF]

Nancy's from San Francisco so I promise you that she's seen it all before.


The Class of 2018 is the largest group of freshman elected since 1974. And like 1974, many of our new representatives were elected out of protest against a corrupt, tyrannical administration and now want to change the old order. AOC's sit-in got some coverage, but the larger question is how Nancy and the House Democratic leadership I grew old with can accommodate a changing political landscape, especially when most freshmen were elected without being previously handpicked by the DCCC or some local party machine. It's going to be loud and it's going to be messy for a while, but let everything sort itself out.

[Tom Rivers]

1. It wasn't even a protest of Pelosi

It was letting it be known to our leadership that climate change is an issue we SERIOUSLY need to address (but one I'm sadly not sure we're selfless enough to address in the extent that it needs to be).

People attacking AOC for showing up to the Green New Deal protest don't get it. If the climate crisis is as bad as we believe it is, and as bad as the U.N. and actual scientific researchers tell us it is, and as bad as it very clearly is based on the insane weather patterns and wildfires over the last decade alone, then we SHOULD be PROUD of ANY representative who gets up there and actually wants to tackle this issue with the seriousness it needs to be confronted with, regardless of what toes they might step on in order to address it, and we want to know that the leadership of our party understands how urgently we need her to help us move the conversation to the left on this topic. I don't care who the Speaker is, all I care about is that they move in a truly progressive direction on this topic. If we're not here to push our agenda, especially when it relates to the single greatest threat faced by every single person on this planet right now, then why the hell are we even worried about control of power in this country? It's all meaningless if we don't take bold action on climate.

[Kaleva]

2. And it's laughable that Freepers and a few here tried to make a big deal out of it.

Squirrel!!

[fescuerescue]

44. The point of nothing burgers is to generate lots of negative conversation

doesn't matter if its debunked, because the point is to create negative impressions, which last long after the substance is gone.

Even this thread, which was written in the best of faith, further services the needs of those opposing her.

[OnDoutside]

3. Any news if they then protested outside Mitch McConnell's office ? Just asking for a lot of very

pissed off Democratic Party supporters ?

[Kaleva]

5. Why would they be pissed? Nancy praised them.

"Nancy Pelosi
‏Verified account @NancyPelosi
16h16 hours ago

We welcome the presence of these activists, and we strongly urge the Capitol Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.
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Nancy Pelosi
‏Verified account @NancyPelosi
16h16 hours ago

Deeply inspired by the young activists & advocates leading the way on confronting climate change. The climate crisis threatens the futures of communities nationwide, and I strongly support reinstating the select committee to address the crisis."

https://twitter.com/NancyPelosi

[OnDoutside]

6. That's the difference between the experience of Pelosi and the inexperience of AOC. Pelosi knows

better than to inflame the situation.

[Kaleva]

8. Then we ought to follow Nancy's lead and not inflame the situation?

No reason to be pissed because Nancy has it under control. Explain that in simple terms to the supposedly pissed off Democrat supporters you are speaking for. Use crayons and draw pictures if you have to.

[OnDoutside]

10. You surely have a few to spare ? I'm sure we will be here again soon.

[irisblue]

13. Walking the edge of rude reply there.

You sure you want to be that?

[OnDoutside]

16. Sure we're only having the bantz, like ;)

The poster gave one to me, I replied, we all move on.

[LanternWaste]

25. I also used to predicate my own behaviors on that of others.

I just glad none were jumping off bridges when I engaged in that bit of ethical petulance prior to becoming an adult.

[irisblue]

12. The crayon comment sure reads as rude. nt

[Kaleva]

14. I think it's a simple concept to understand. Follow Nancy's lead in dealing with the activists.

She praised and supports them. But for some reason, a few are angry at their actions.

[Mariana]

37. Are you suggesting she didn't mean what she wrote?

I don't think Nancy Pelosi is a liar.

[octoberlib]

15. Why protest in front of the people who are persistently blocking any and all climate legislation

and will keep any bill from being passed for at least the next two years?

[OnDoutside]

17. Arf, arf !

[Hortensis]

4. :) Agree. Nancy is thrilled about the increased engagement

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by citizens shocked into action, of course. Aren't we all? The "Alexandria Goes To Congress" threads should drop sharply as she settles in and hopefully will shift to her committees' efforts to achieve what she could only call for from outside.

You made a point not usually hit about the diffusion of power away from centers over the last two decades. The DNC and RNC have largely become facilitators for decisions mostly made by individuals like Ms. Ocasio and independent power centers.

Rank amateurs elected to the Congress of the United States in one dizzying poof! aren't new, but what is new that they're not virtually all coming from wealthy, powerful families. If ignorance in legislators isn't exactly desirable, certainly more representative access to government is overall a very positive development.

In any case, you're of course right that Nancy and other leaders have plenty of experience in guiding newcomers every 2 years. Every class provides new assets to the Democratic caucus, and sometimes some real diamonds. You bet they're interested in these arrivals and want them to do well.

[JI7]

7. wasn't AOC there to support Pelosi, not protest her ?

[Celerity]

11. Yes. And AOC had no part in organising it, nor was she there

a long time. She spoke to the activists briefly and said that she had Pelosi's back and Pelosi had theirs (the activists) about climate change.

The whole 'uppity young AOC lips off to Pelosi' meme is the stuff of imagination and axes grinding out agendas.

[melman]

9. AOC's protest?

There was no 'AOC protest'. That is a thing that did not happen.

[George II]

23. It was organized by Justice Democrats. Who was on the board of Justice Democrats?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

27. AOC indicated she supported Pelosi and that Pelosi had the protestor's back.

So.........what's the outrage about AOC again? I can't keep up with reasons to hate progressives.

[Autumn]

39. See, there was once this picture of her and a celebrity who she met that canvased for her.

Ergo she has bad relationships. Someone who is not a Democrat endorsed her. She didn't stay in her district like she was supposed to, she went off and campaigned for other people. Someone, somewhere probably has a master list . It seems that there doesn't need to be a reason to hate progressives. It's like when they say we need a different speaker Nancy needs to step down. No reason given. People dislike smart women and fear them having power.

[SweetieD]

18. She was not protesting. She stopped and offered a couple of words in support of

People already there and promised them that their issues were important. Please reed beyond the headlines. For some reason this aoc woman is on someone's radar to be destroyed.

[Demsrule86]

21. I do find her annoying but ignore it as she is not my Congresswoman.

I hope she does well. and ends up helping further unity which is needed.

[Cary]

90. Exactly

Maybe she will grow up?

[George II]

24. See below:

Hey @RepRaskin! We just sat in at @NancyPelosi's office with @Ocasio2018

Link to tweet

[Cuthbert Allgood]

29. Oh, noes!!1! The young brown woman wants to make sure we protect the environment.

Get the torches and pitchforks.

Good of you to leave off what AOC actually said, e.g. that she knows Pelosi will have their backs.

But, yeah, SCREW THE PROGRESSIVE BROWN WOMAN.

[George II]

30. That's a rather racist interpretation of the point of this subthread, which you missed entirely....

....It was said that she was not protesting but "just stopped by", when in fact she was part of the protest and helped organize it.

Why did you have to bring in her race? It was not part of the discussion ANYWHERE in this discussion from the OP down to the bottom until you mentioned it. Is her race even relevant to this discussion? I don't think so but apparently you have an issue with it.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

33. Oh, yeah, I'm the racist one.

And when people say anything about Pelosi or Clinton, plenty of people--you included--chime in about sexism. But now it's racist to point out the rage at a woman of color.

Yeah. Sure. It's my problem.

[George II]

38. First, my comments didn't express "rage", but my opinion about this would be the same....

....regardless of the race, gender, or anything else about the person.

YOU are the one who insultingly insinuated that it was based on her race. Do you know what my race is (that's rhetorical)?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

41. Your race is unimportant to me. Do you know mine?

The point is that there is often outrage expressed on DU anytime anyone says anything about a woman. Sometimes it is on point. Often it isn't. But the same people that take outrage at any displeasure expressed about Clinton or Pelosi are the same ones that are going after this woman of color. Pointing that out does not make me racist. At all.

[George II]

43. Nope, and don't care. MY point is that by criticizing a Member of Congress.....

....who happens to be Latina I'm against "a young brown woman" (as you put it), which had absolutely nothing to do with my comment, and no one else in this discussion even mentioned her race except for you.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

45. I'll bookmark this for the next time you tell me that I don't want Pelosi as Speaker because

she's a woman and that I don't like women in power. Or the next time one of your buddies tells me that. I'll refer them to your words that maybe it isn't about that.

You don't like the progressive wing of the part, regardless of gender and race. I get that. It's the hypocrisy that is tough to deal with.

[George II]

46. Don't worry, to be honest I don't recall responding to you in the past and I wouldn't have here....

....except you "implied" (claimed?) I was against "a young brown woman", as though THAT has anything to do with it, which is 100% incorrect.

Have a great day.

[Eliot Rosewater]

79. The word that jumped out at me from the tweet was DEMAND

I predicted exactly that.

[George II]

83. Inasmuch as I've never told you that, the "next" time is a misnomer. It won't happen but if it did..

...it would be the FIRST time. But I don't engage in such sweeping projections.

However, you're rather presumptuous about what I "don't like", and you're wrong (a sweeping projection perhaps?). That's like saying that if I don't like some Democrat then "I don't like the Democratic Party".

It's been fun.

[NurseJackie]

28. That's not how Cenk Uygur's folks (The Young Turks) are telling the story.

She was not protesting.

That's not how Cenk Uygur's folks (The Young Turks) are telling the story.

Partial Transcript: "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez along with a number of progressive groups including the Justice Democrats and The Sunrise Movement protested outside of the offices of House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi."

So was she protesting or not protesting? The "Justice Democrats" are Cenk's own group... and if Cenk's own youtube channel (The Young Turks) is saying that she was protesting, then I'm inclined to think that she was protesting.

The suggestion that she just "stopped by" to "offer a couple of words of support" doesn't strike me as being a very likely explanation nor accurate description.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez PROTESTS Nancy Pelosi

Anyway, there it is... make of it what you will.

[George II]

31. It was a pointless "protest" anyway. What they were "protesting"....

....(reinstatement of an environmental committee) had already been decided and is in the works. Nancy Pelosi, the target of the "protest", said last week she was going to reinstate that committee.

I suspect there was another reason for the "protest".

[Small-Axe]

47. Democrats should all watch this clip to see how that turd Cenk Uygur is framing this story.

Not as support for Nancy Pelosi, to be sure.

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. Thanks for smacking down another lie NJ. People claimed she just "stopped by". n/t

[MrsCoffee]

19. Apparently the sit-in and protest signs mean it wasn't really a protest.

What was the most prominent one? “Step Up Or Step Aside”?

[NurseJackie]

35. The "Step Up Or Step Aside" protest sign was OFFENSIVE.

What was the most prominent one? “Step Up Or Step Aside”?

The "Step Up Or Step Aside" protest sign was OFFENSIVE. It was an attack/smear on Nancy Pelosi. The message was to falsely suggest that Nancy Pelosi is doing nothing, or to incorrectly imply that she's incompetent. There's no doubt in my mind that these types of stunts are intended to harm Nancy Pelosi.

I was exceedingly pleased to see how Nancy Pelosi responded to it. Nancy is the real deal... she's a class act.

[Demsrule86]

20. I like AOC but am glad she is not my Congress

critter. I am glad we have a Democrat in the seat and all but the fact Justice Democrats supported her gave me pause...can't stand Cent. We need unity now not this sort of thing. She should distance herself from this group;

[seaglass]

22. She was on the board of Justice Democrats. I don't trust them. I'm not sure Justice Dems

actually give much money to candidates, I think they just slap their label on and try to sell them services. n/t

[Wintryjade]

26. Cenk, they even name themselves like a RW org.

[George II]

34. They don't give much to candidates. In fact, the seven highest recipients of money from JD are:

Brand New Congress, Cenk's OTHER organization ($605K)
Middle Seat Consulting ($280K)
ADP ($228K)
ActBlue ($87K)
Corbin Trent, Co-Director ($71K)
Alex Rojas, Executive Director ($63K)
Sam Briggs, Project Director ($58K)

That's more than 60% of their overall expenditures.

[NurseJackie]

49. How many family members are involved?

That's the thing that really makes me suspicious. But, he's clever and most likely he's smart enough to avoid such obvious traps and pitfalls.

[George II]

53. I don't know, but look at that recipient of the highest amount, Brand New Congress....

....now look at the highest recipient of Brand New Congress' funds..........

BRAND NEW CONGRESS!

They got $605K from Justice Democrats, and then they turn around and give themselves $261K! It's a high stakes version of what you see being played in Times Square - three-card monte.

These numbers are all on the FEC.gov website.

[aidbo]

32. Climate change is not a nothing burger.

[Autumn]

36. It wasn't a turncoat event as it was portrayed. It wasn't AOC's protest, she wasn't the organizer.

She didn't even stay for the whole thing. She went to encourage the protesters in Nancy's office and to let them know that they needed to let Nancy know that they have her back if she's chosen as Speaker. Sounds like a damn smart Freshmen Congressperson to me. They protested to call on the Democrats to create a committee to make a plan to switch to 100% renewable energy and green jobs. They are a smart group of young people who obviously are concerned about climate change and recognize the fossil fuel industry has to end. And there's not much time left.

Should leader Pelosi become the next Speaker of the House we we need to tell her that we've got her back in showing and pursing the most progressive energy agenda that this country has ever seen.

Straight from AOC's mouth and there's video.

[George II]

48. Justice Democrats is the organizer. Guess who was on the Board of Justice Democrats?

[NurseJackie]

50. Justice Democrats champions third-party candidates and movements...

Justice Democrats champions third-party candidates and movements! They even say so right on their website. https://www.justicedemocrats.com/about

While we agree with and often champion many third-party candidates and movements, the reality is that right now it is next to impossible for a third-party candidate to win a national election.

They realize that in the United States we have a defacto two-party system. As a result, they cannot form a viable third party, so they as much admit outright that they want to USE the Democratic party to further their own anti-Democrat agenda.

The best way to do this is by working to change the Democratic party from the inside out. Once Justice Democrats take power, we plan to implement electoral reform

Ah... there it is. More of that Susan Sarandon philosophy of "destroy to rebuild".

Cenk Uygur is a grifter and a fraud. As it turns out, his organization:

...received a US$4 million investment from Roemer, Robinson, Melville & Co., LLC, a private equity firm led by former Louisiana Governor Buddy Roemer.[23]

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/04/buddy-roemer-firm-invests-4-million-in-young-turks-network-186934

Buddy Roemer firm invests $4 million in Young Turks Network
By HADAS GOLD

04/16/2014 09:09 AM EDT

A firm led by former Republican governor and congressman Buddy Roemer is investing millions into The Young Turks Network to significantly increase its content, sales, and platform presence.

The investment of $4 million, with an option to go up to $8 million, came out of a conversation Roemer and The Young Turks Network founder Cenk Uygur had backstage before speaking at a conference about money in politics last year. The relationship between the conservative Louisiana politician and the founder of the progressive media outlet stemmed from both making the removal of money’s influence on politics their signature issues.

“One thing led to another, and it turns out we’re terrific partners for one another and that’s how it came about,” Uygur, who also has a PAC devoted to campaign finance reform, said in an interview.

In a statement, Roemer said his firm, Roemer, Robinson, Melville & Co., LLC, has been looking for two years to find the best new media platform in which to invest.

(Continued at link...)

[George II]

51. "Once Justice Democrats take power...."

[NurseJackie]

54. I honestly question the wisdom (or the motivation) of any politician...

I honestly question the wisdom (or the motivation) of any politician who gets too cozy with an organization like that. Cenk Uygur is obviously a RW shill performing a role that's funded by Republicans. He's the one who founded the Justice Democrats (and although he had to resign in disgrace from its day-to-day operations, there can be little doubt that the organization is following the path and principles laid out by Uygur and his Republican masters.)

"Once Justice Democrats take power...."

Exactly! It sticks out like a sore thumb, even though they tried to bury that in their "about us" page. That little bit, along with their declaration that THEY SUPPORT THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES is all the proof I need to know that Justice Democrats (and its partners) are NO friend of Democrats.

[George II]

59. Like they ever will "take power"...

again:

Not only did they try to bury it, but I see they've taken the list of the Board members off their site, too (or obscured it to the point I can't find it)

I forget if it was them or their sister organization, Brand New Congress, they supported an Independent candidate in Tennessee against a Democrat! Yes, they are no friend of Democrats and don't even pretend that they are.

[NurseJackie]

60. "Yes, they are no friend of Democrats and don't even pretend that they are."

Yes, they are no friend of Democrats and don't even pretend that they are.

Quite the understatement there, my friend.

they supported an Independent candidate in Tennessee against a Democrat!

That's disgusting! I certainly hope that none of our Democratic leaders or candidates donate money to "Justice Democrats"!!!

That would be like my son and his husband donating to the American Family Association... or their hiring Chic-fil-A to cater their wedding.

[namahage]

62. The Wayback Machine never forgets...

https://web.archive.org/web/20180323224252/www.justicedemocrats.com/about/

[George II]

63. Thank you so much for finding that. This is what I was saying:

"The current board of Justice Democrats is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Saikat Chakrabarti."

And this is very interesting, too:

"100% of donations will be used to build and run congressional campaigns."

At least 60% of their donations are used for contributions to another (Cenk) organization, salaries, payroll expenses, fundraising, etc.

[namahage]

73. Keep in mind, though, that's from March.

As of July 10, the text has changed, and AOC is no longer listed.

[George II]

76. They deleted everyone from their site other than four untitled people on their "about" page.

I wonder why?

[Autumn]

55. Justice Democrats? Ohhhh should that scare me? Because it doesn't.

[George II]

58. Who said that should scare you? You said said she wasn't the organizer, I pointed out WHO....

...was the organizer, and you ridicule it!

Sometimes I just wonder....................

[Autumn]

64. I don't wonder anymore George....

So you are saying that AOC IS Justice Democrats and she runs it? Link?

[George II]

65. Check it out:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180323224252/www.justicedemocrats.com/about/

Who is running Justice Democrats? Who are the major players?

The current board of Justice Democrats is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Saikat Chakrabarti.

[Autumn]

67. So she's on the board of Justice Democrats with another person. I should hate them why?

Because you do? I still don't see on there where AOC organizes protests. Got a direct link?

[George II]

70. Why are you changing the subject? Who is talking about "hate"?

We were talking about the organizer of the protest. You said she wasn't the organizer, I said she was via Justice Democrats, of which she is one of the two members of their Board.

Then you followed with "So you are saying that AOC IS Justice Democrats and she runs it? Link?"

I provided the link (actually someone else here helpfully provided the link), and once again you're ridiculing the factual answer to your question.

You can follow the progression of the discussion in posts #36 (yours), #48 (mine), #55 (yours), #58 (mine), #64 (yours), #65 (mine), and now #67 (yours, which you just edited)

Got it?

[Autumn]

71. I haven't changed the subject. Again. Do you have a link to prove AOC

organized the protest in Nancy's office, not via (someone else at) Justice Democrats but her. You have been clear that she organized it, not the organization, her. Yes I can read, you are clear in your opinion of them, that's no secret All I've asked is do you have a link to where she organized the protest? You have been sure enough to argue that everywhere and in all these posts to me. All I want to see is a link. Then I will say well damn, you're right, she organized the protest in Nancy's office, I couldn't find it, I was wrong. A link is easy enough then we are done. If you don't have a link to AOC organizing the protest we are going in circles and have nothing more to discuss.

36. It wasn't a turncoat event as it was portrayed. It wasn't AOC's protest, she wasn't the organizer.

She didn't even stay for the whole thing. She went to encourage the protesters in Nancy's office and to let them know that they needed to let Nancy know that they have her back if she's chosen as Speaker. Sounds like a damn smart Freshmen Congressperson to me. They protested to call on the Democrats to create a committee to make a plan to switch to 100% renewable energy and green jobs. They are a smart group of young people who obviously are concerned about climate change and recognize the fossil fuel industry has to end. And there's not much time left.

Should leader Pelosi become the next Speaker of the House we we need to tell her that we've got her back in showing and pursing the most progressive energy agenda that this country has ever seen.


Straight from AOC's mouth and there's video.

48. Justice Democrats is the organizer. Guess who was on the Board of Justice Democrats?

55. Justice Democrats? Ohhhh should that scare me? Because it doesn't.

58. Who said that should scare you? You said said she wasn't the organizer, I pointed out WHO....

...was the organizer, and you ridicule it!

Sometimes I just wonder....................

64. I don't wonder anymore George....

So you are saying that AOC IS Justice Democrats and she runs it? Link?

65. Check it out:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180323224252/www.justicedemocrats.com/about/

Who is running Justice Democrats? Who are the major players?

The current board of Justice Democrats is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Saikat Chakrabarti.

67. So she's on the board of Justice Democrats with another person. I should hate them why

Because you do? I still don't see on there where AOC organizes protests. Got a direct link?

[George II]

74. I'm afraid nothing short of a notarized affidavit will suffice at this point.

[Autumn]

77. You won't get one of those. Someone messaged me that she and Justice Democrats didn't organize it.

It was organized by Sunrise Movement.

https://www.sunrisemovement.org/

[George II]

78. Ah yes, the Sunrise Movement. And just who is behind them, pray tell.

[Autumn]

80. I don't know or care but I'm sure someone can find out if they want to bother...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/11/13/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-nancy-pelosi/1987514002/

About 200 people were in Pelosi's office lobby and down the hall, and among them was the 29-year-old New York Democrat.

Ocasio-Cortez, the youngest woman ever elected to Congress, said she wants to show Pelosi that "we're here to back her up in pushing for 100 percent renewable energy."

"This is not about me, this is not about the dynamics of any personalities," she told reporters outside Pelosi's office. "But this is about uplifting the voice and the message of the fact that we need a Green New Deal and we need to get to 100 percent renewables because our lives depend on it."

The protest was organized by Sunrise Movement, which is mobilizing young people to fight climate change and calling for more green jobs.

Pelosi, in a statement, reiterated that she has asked her caucus to reinstate the select committee to address climate change. Democrats campaigned on a $1 trillion investment in infrastructure reform that she said will make communities more resilient and create 16 million "new good-paying jobs."

[George II]

81. Different reports say that Justice Democrats organized it. There you go.

Have a great evening.

[Tarheel_Dem]

72. Can't you just acknowledge you jumped in without knowing what you were talking about?

[Autumn]

75. Nope. Edited. Neither AOC or the Justice Democrats organized the protest.

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She was 1 of 31 candidates they endorsed.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211426797#post80

Not without a link showing that AOC organized the protest.

I have looked and the only thing I have found is it was organized by Sunrise Movement but I don't see her name on there.

https://www.sunrisemovement.org/

[shanny]

40. It wasn't "her" protest...but spin away.

[NurseJackie]

68. Well...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11428242

[fescuerescue]

42. Most of politics is a nothing burger.

Everybody knows this is nothing. But some people pretend that it is, in hopes of convincing other people that it is. and some of those others end up believing it and acting on it.

That's 90% of politics right there.

Example. Trump's birthism. That was a nothing burger. Trump didn't believe it, but he pretended to believe it to get others believe it. And some did. And it put him in the running to be President and he won. Now we have a President Nothing Burger built on a foundation of lies.

fwiw, I don't think this AoC protest thing will go anywhere. But the folks leveraging this one, will continue with new, yet to be invented lies to oppose her.

[disillusioned73]

52. ...

[ismnotwasm]

56. It was a protest.

Nancy Pelosi handled the situation magnificently and AOC is making her first steps. Was it wise? Not particularly, but with Nancy Pelosi’s support, she was able to navigate what could have been, if not a disaster, a far more polarizing event.

I hope they get together and have coffee or something. AOC needs mentors and contacts, and Nancy Pelosi is a great place to start.

[NurseJackie]

69. Ain't THAT the truth?

AOC needs mentors and contacts, and Nancy Pelosi is a great place to start.

Ain't THAT the truth? I hope she'll start seeking (and taking) good advice from her OLDER and WISER colleagues. I hope that she'll reject the bad advice she's been receiving and resist whatever temptations there may be for grandstanding and showboating in any sort of misguided effort to artificially "create a name" or "develop a reputation". We need smart leaders, I hope she turns out to be one.

[HopeAgain]

57. Thank You

AOC has excited many millennials, including my son who voted democratic in the midterms rather than hold out for left wing parties as he has done in the past.

[pecosbob]

66. Less than a Nothing burger...it's a RW talking point.

I read that it was Paul Ryan that said "The incoming speaker is getting protested by one of her freshman." Sounds like a RW spin to me...

Mistrust ANYTHING you read about Dems in the media...every word is spin, 24/7.

[Gothmog]

82. AOC's protest did not accomplish anything

[Autumn]

84. It wasn't her protest but it speaks highly that she, one of the 31 candidates the Sunrise Movement

endorsed went to encourage them in their protest. They will not forget that. The protest was not organized by her. Or the Justice Democrats.

https://www.sunrisemovement.org/

[Gothmog]

85. Is this another Cenk backed group?

The link is totally uninformative. Cenk may be popular on JPR but I stopped paying attention to Cenk a very long time ago.

Again, I have not been impressed at all by AOC.

[Autumn]

86. I don't watch web blog shows so I have no clue who finds Cenk popular and I just can't find

a single fuck to give if she impresses other people or not. She impressed enough people to get elected and Obama endorsed her. Again, she impresses me. Try Google for the answers you seek.

[Gothmog]

87. She was elected in a dark blue district

You may want to watch this interview. AOC comes off as not knowing what she is talking about

These answers do not inspire confidence I like candidates who can answer questions.

I wonder what her committee assignment will be.

[Autumn]

88. Not interested in your video. You don't like her, I do. We we don't have anything to discuss.

[Gothmog]

89. AOC made a fool out of herself on CNN

That interview was truly sad and showed that she was not prepared.

Again, I am curious as to AOC's committee assignment.

[George II]

92. The 14th Congressional District primary was almost three months before the more publicized....

....state-wide primary in September. Very few voters were even aware of the June primary. As a native New Yorker who grew up in Queens less than a mile from the current border of the 14th District, I had no idea there was a primary. I was more focused on the Governor primary assuming all primaries were going to be in September.

People were so unaware of the primary that total turnout in the Democratic primary was about 11% of all registered Democrats in the district, the two candidates got votes from 6.5% and 5.0% of the registered Democrats respectively.

As you point out, it is a dark blue district, almost 80% of the registered voters are Democrats.

[Gothmog]

94. I hate the way that New York does two sets of primaries

[George II]

95. It wasn't that way until recently. They used to conduct their primaries in September, but....

....the Federal government forced them to move the FEDERAL primary to June. The proposal was to move all primaries (Federal and state) but the republicans blocked that, resulting in two primaries.

The first year of dual primaries was 2012. That's why so many voters, particularly those who have been voting for many years, are confused.

[George II]

91. Cenk founded the group that organized the sit-in, Justice Democrats.....

....he's no longer openly associated with them (who knows if he's still in the background) because of some racist and sexist blog posts.

As for the Sunrise Movement website, it has very little specific information about who started the group, who is running it, etc., just general talking points, and many of the pages have a button to "donate".

Interesting that the outline of their logo is identical to that of Justice Democrats - that might be a clue as to who is behind the group.

[Gothmog]

93. I am not impressed with Cenk and this group's website is really worthless

I stopped watching Cenk a long time ago and I have little or no respect for him. Cenk is very popular on JPR but who is surprised by this. Cenk hates the Democrats Party and so fits in well with JPR posters

The Justice Democrats are another group who I have no use for