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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:01 PM Nov 2018

More than 30 people didn't report disturbing behavior by Nikolas Cruz before Parkland massacre


David Fleshler and Brittany Wallman

South Florida Sun Sentinel

More than 30 people knew about disturbing behavior by Nikolas Cruz, including displaying guns, threatening to murder his mother and killing animals, but never reported it until after he committed the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

“It’s very troubling behavior, and in many cases it probably should have caused them to report what they heard, saw or learned,” said Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri, chairman of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, which opened four days of hearings Tuesday at the BB&T Center in Sunrise. “But for a variety of reasons they did not.”

Two students did report Cruz’s disturbing and threatening behavior but said they were brushed off by the school’s administration, according to testimony Tuesday to the commission. A detailed tip to the FBI also went unheeded, and on Tuesday, the parents of one of the murdered students sued the U.S. government over the FBI’s admitted failure.

In the years before the massacre, Cruz reportedly killed a duck with a tire iron, shot squirrels with a pellet gun, killed frogs and decapitated a bird, Pinellas County Sheriff’s Detective Chris Lyons said in a presentation to the commission, based on statements from students, neighbors and co-workers of Cruz and his mother. Cruz displayed a photo to a student of a decapitated cat.

Stoneman Douglas student warned school that Nikolas Cruz could become shooter
He repeatedly made racist and anti-gay remarks,using the term “white power” and drawing swastikas on desks and his backpack. He remarked on the shooting at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando and “said he was glad they killed all those gay people,” the detective said.

A student said he “made bad jokes about Jewish people, Nazis and Hitler and wished all Jews were dead,” he said. One 11th-grader reported that Cruz “told him he did not like black people and would like to shoot them,” he said.

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More than 30 people didn't report disturbing behavior by Nikolas Cruz before Parkland massacre (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
wonderful that hindsight is always 2020 dembotoz Nov 2018 #1
You don't have to be the second coming of Nostradamus dsc Nov 2018 #2
Exactly! The warnings were clear and no one heeded. rainy Nov 2018 #3
"No one heeded" dixiegrrrrl Nov 2018 #4
as a collection it looks different than single episodes dembotoz Nov 2018 #5

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
1. wonderful that hindsight is always 2020
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:09 PM
Nov 2018

after an event it is easy to define a person based on that event.
interpret the act to fit the label

in real time not always that easy

dsc

(52,155 posts)
2. You don't have to be the second coming of Nostradamus
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 12:11 PM
Nov 2018

to figure out that someone who says he is glad gays got killed and kills animals left and right is a danger.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. "No one heeded"
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

Let's explore that a bit, keeping in mind the laws involved.

Who should have heeded?
And what should they have done?

Let's say he and his family are your neighbors, and your kid tells you what he is doing in school.
what is your next step?

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
5. as a collection it looks different than single episodes
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 02:32 PM
Nov 2018

there is a gap between folks to avoid and damn call the cops

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