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PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:53 PM Nov 2018

"I'm a busy person, but I will be the speaker of the House no matter what he said,"

...

Pelosi sought to push back Wednesday on another Democrat’s prediction that she would fall short in her bid to become speaker next year.

Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), a leader of the anti-Pelosi faction, is advancing the idea that Pelosi cannot round up enough support.

“I’m a busy person, but I will be the speaker of the House no matter what he said,” Pelosi told reporters in response.

Rep. Ed Perl­mutter (D-Colo.), a leading opponent of Pelosi’s bid for House speakership, said Wednesday that the now-minority leader could possibly be elected speaker if other changes are made in the ranks of Democratic leadership.

Read the whole article at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/congressional-leadership-elections-pelosi-seeks-to-shore-up-votes-for-speaker/2018/11/14/e9443c14-e813-11e8-b8dc-66cca409c180_story.html?utm_term=.804b444ecc1b
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"I'm a busy person, but I will be the speaker of the House no matter what he said," (Original Post) PoliticAverse Nov 2018 OP
She is correct. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #1
Yeah, Moulton and these 4 guys.. Cha Nov 2018 #2
I didn't know Tim Ryan did that. That makes my blood boil! lilactime Nov 2018 #7
Tim Ryan has been active since day ONE on pushing out Pelosi. riversedge Nov 2018 #17
Mine also. Btw, he keeps thinking of running for president Hortensis Nov 2018 #21
is Tim a clone of Paul? Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2018 #23
So That's What They Want & Are Using As Blackmail Me. Nov 2018 #3
In Politics that is called "hardball". n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2018 #4
Do you really think three soon-to-be octogenarians leading the House is a good idea? BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #6
And do you really think that knocking out the only woman leading the House, pnwmom Nov 2018 #8
Something tells me you didn't read the OP BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #10
I was responding to YOUR post, not the OP. And YOU said, pnwmom Nov 2018 #11
Beyond, Perlmutter has voted moderate Dem, 65 years old, Hortensis Nov 2018 #16
Oh Dear, Oh Dear Me. Nov 2018 #12
If Pelosi keeps the Speakership it's only because she made major concessions BeyondGeography Nov 2018 #13
I Believe She Will Do As She's Done Before Me. Nov 2018 #14
I appreciate the bravado but not as much as I NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #5
I'm disgusted with Perlmutter eleny Nov 2018 #9
You go gal. riversedge Nov 2018 #15
Seth who? Ed who? lpbk2713 Nov 2018 #18
if Reps Moulton and Perlmutter want someone else, they should freaking nominate someone else 0rganism Nov 2018 #19
The #fivewhiteguys want leadership roles mcar Nov 2018 #20
Ryan always reminds me of a Stalking Horse....not the power behind the thrown, while I'm surprised OnDoutside Nov 2018 #22

Cha

(297,140 posts)
2. Yeah, Moulton and these 4 guys..
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:57 PM
Nov 2018

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Ashley Killough‏Verified account @KilloughCNN
Talking to reporters, Rep. Tim Ryan forcefully argued incoming freshmen could face political peril if they go back on their promise to oppose Pelosi. “We can’t do this to them. This is unfair. They will lose their seats,” Ryan said. “They will be done.”























Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Mine also. Btw, he keeps thinking of running for president
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:27 PM
Nov 2018

even though he's never held a leadership position in his 7 terms/16 years in congress. Never too late to start at the top?

The Hill: Ryan has been a member of the Democrats' "30-something working group." With no absence of irony, the group was created by Pelosi a decade ago to encourage younger members "to talk and listen to young Americans about the issues they care about and how Congress can better represent their opinions on those issues." ...

Ryan was one of the anti-abortion Democrats who initially balked at ObamaCare over concerns that federal subsidies could underwrite insurance plans that offered abortion coverage, joining the 64 Democrats who voted in favor of the so-called Stupak amendment, which was designed to prevent any taxpayer dollars from funding those services.

Liberal Democrats and women's health groups howled,... Ryan has since reversed course. ...
He's stuck to that vow. .. It remains to be seen if his previous record will alienate fellow Democrats in the liberal-heavy caucus as he chases a longshot bid against Pelosi, whose support for abortion rights spans her career.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
23. is Tim a clone of Paul?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 09:10 PM
Nov 2018

Is Tim Ryan a clone of granny starver Paul Ryan?

Or maybe he just wants Paul to keep the gavel.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
3. So That's What They Want & Are Using As Blackmail
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 04:59 PM
Nov 2018

"Rep. Ed Perl­mutter (D-Colo.), a leading opponent of Pelosi’s bid for House speakership, said Wednesday that the now-minority leader could possibly be elected speaker if other changes are made in the ranks of Democratic leadership."

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
6. Do you really think three soon-to-be octogenarians leading the House is a good idea?
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:07 PM
Nov 2018

Pelosi’s defenders say no one else has the experience to replace her and when pressure comes to open the doors a little you trash that too. Absurd.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
8. And do you really think that knocking out the only woman leading the House,
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:18 PM
Nov 2018

in the year of the woman, is a good idea? Why not go after one of the two MEN in leadership?

Something tells me you're a guy.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
10. Something tells me you didn't read the OP
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:21 PM
Nov 2018
Rep. Ed Perl­mutter (D-Colo.), a leading opponent of Pelosi’s bid for House speakership, said Wednesday that the now-minority leader could possibly be elected speaker if other changes are made in the ranks of Democratic leadership.


He’s saying Pelosi can have the gavel but the top ranks have to evolve. Got a problem with that?

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
11. I was responding to YOUR post, not the OP. And YOU said,
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:25 PM
Nov 2018
Do you really think three soon-to-be octogenarians leading the House is a good idea?

Pelosi’s defenders say no one else has the experience to replace her and when pressure comes to open the doors a little you trash that too. Absurd.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Beyond, Perlmutter has voted moderate Dem, 65 years old,
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:53 PM
Nov 2018

has been in the house 11 years, every campaign funded by big business. Not an important achiever in the house. Is there even one issue you care about that you feel would be better protected and advanced by him?

Especially since it now turns out he's just angling for a deal and will turn on the Never Nancys?

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
12. Oh Dear, Oh Dear
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:04 PM
Nov 2018

who put them in charge, if I remember correctly Ryan ran against her and lost. Making this out as a move for better leadership is absurd.

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
13. If Pelosi keeps the Speakership it's only because she made major concessions
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:09 PM
Nov 2018

That will soon be clear to everyone. You can’t say you’re the only one capable of doing the job and keep the door closed on a succession process. I don’t know why any thinking Democrat would be on board with that.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
14. I Believe She Will Do As She's Done Before
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 07:40 PM
Nov 2018

and let the caucus make the decisions, you know the people who voted to put them into the leadership in the first place. I also believe these attempts at disruption and what I'm calling blackmail will backfire big time. In less than 2 months we'll see.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
5. I appreciate the bravado but not as much as I
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:00 PM
Nov 2018

appreciate Nancy Pelosi and what she accomplished when she was Speaker. Putting someone else in the position is a win for tRumpy, that cannot be tolerated.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
9. I'm disgusted with Perlmutter
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 05:18 PM
Nov 2018

He's our Rep in the House. So I sent him an email letting him know that we'll be withdrawing our monthly support to him unless he supports her. I don't really think he'll give a crap. But I can't support him if he holds fast to his current position.

0rganism

(23,943 posts)
19. if Reps Moulton and Perlmutter want someone else, they should freaking nominate someone else
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:05 PM
Nov 2018

no need for the goddam conspiratorial garbage-slinging festival this has become.

there are other senior members i wouldn't mind having the speakership, like Rep. Lewis or Rep. Waters, people who would be well known and probably do a quality job. go ahead and nominate them, Seth and Ed, if you think they want the job.

hell, i've heard that the speaker doesn't even need to be an elected member of the house. nominate Mrs. Clinton if you think that will work out.

but support someone.

"someone else" is NOT a real option as-is, and lingering over it is just stupid as all hell for what should, by now, be obvious reasons.

mcar

(42,302 posts)
20. The #fivewhiteguys want leadership roles
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:11 PM
Nov 2018

They should not be getting attention for this stunt. Just what has any of them accomplished, compared to Pelosi?

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
22. Ryan always reminds me of a Stalking Horse....not the power behind the thrown, while I'm surprised
Wed Nov 14, 2018, 08:27 PM
Nov 2018

Moulton talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk.

I DO think Nancy should shake up the leadership, but none of this bunch should be anywhere near leadership.

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