WV Dem Richard Ojeda launches presidential bid

[SummerSnow]

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He's a vet and has a nice southern accent. he's on Morning Joe


Hmm he voted for Trump....oh oh

[Sunsky]

1. And he voted for Trump in 2016

That disqualifies him for me. I don't trust his judgment.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

5. +100

[Proud Liberal Dem]

37. I can handle a reformed Trump voter changing their voting patterns

I CAN'T stomach one for POTUS.

[dalton99a]

38. Because there wasn't a better candidate

Yeah, NO. Hell NO.

[RandiFan1290]

2. lol

[JHan]

14. LMAO perfect

[hlthe2b]

3. He says a lot of things I appreciate hearing, including attacking the notion that the US

is the "greatest" only because they can beat militarily most of the world. Pointing out the problems that that attitude hides and fails to address is really good--coming from a 10 year military vet.

He came off pretty good, which somewhat surprised me, given a lot of what I've read about him. I'll enjoy him taking on Trump, at least, even if I have qualms about him becoming the nominee.

And yes, foremost among those concerns is the fact he admits voting for Trump in 2016... Heavens

[obamanut2012]

13. He voted for Trump and is anti choice

NEXT!

[hlthe2b]

16. Yes.. I pointed that out as well.

[Demonaut]

31. he's toast

[Cha]

4. Ojeda Voted for trump. Not Smart.

[bobGandolf]

6. If he voted for Trump in 2016.....

he can't really believe he has a chance at securing the Democratic nomination for president in 2020. No way in the world would I vote for him.

[CottonBear]

7. He voted for Trump. He should not be a candidate. N/T

[brooklynite]

8. The Democratic Base Philosophy vs the General Election Voter Philosophy...

The Democratic Base Philosophy: Someone who voted for Trump is forever tainted and should be shunned.

The General Election Voter Philosophy: Someone who voted for Trump and recognizes their mistake can be won back as a Democratic voter.

Which approach helps win elections?

[LisaL]

9. We are not talking about this guy being won back as a democratic voter.

He is planning to run for president.
Are you really going to argue this guy is presidential material?

[obamanut2012]

17. +1

But yet so many on DU say Kamala Harris is tainted somehow. wtaf

[brooklynite]

22. I'm going to argue that, aside from a phone call I've had with him, I have no opinion...

...but that "voting for Trump two years ago" doesn't automatically disqualify him.

[FSogol]

26. It does in my book. Once a moron, almost always a moron. n/t

[dansolo]

42. What about never voting for a Democrat for President?

It sounds like he voted for Bush, McCain and Romney as well. Is that enough to disqualify him?

[jcgoldie]

44. It absolutely does

If you looked at 2016 and decided Trump was the best choice then you are either a racist or an idiot... especially if you claim to be a democrat. If people that made that terrible decision have thought better of it or awoken to reality then we welcome them back with open arms to the party, but not as candidates for president.

[hlthe2b]

18. There will be some who believe as you say in the dichotomy.

But, it is the hard core Dems that vote in primaries.

[edhopper]

24. If he voted for Trump over Hillary

his core values are not what I want for a candidate.

[lilactime]

10. He voted for Trump and he's anti-abortion. NEXT!

[obamanut2012]

11. And voted for Trump

[JHan]

12. good luck with that dude.

[octoberlib]

15. Voted for Trump. No way.

[dansolo]

19. Did he vote for Obama in 2012?

If he voted for Romney, then he is completely full of shit.

[SummerSnow]

29. He said he never voted for a dem for president..

stated in his wikipedia


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ojeda


So, he didn't vote for Obama. Buh bye

[bullimiami]

20. Sorry but Rs don't give a shit about vets or southern or anything.

Remember Max Cleland vs Saxby Chambliss.

A real southern war hero vs a nothing.

They shit all over Max and the same party loves Trump.


Is this guy trying to attract dems?

[GoCubsGo]

21. Who?

[disillusioned73]

23. Don't discount this guy off hand..

he ran an interesting congressional campaign in WV - yes WV... he will resonate with some folks

I saw this a couple days ago, he breaks it down quite nicely...

[Small-Axe]

30. He might appeal to populists.

Populism, of course, is the most toxic and blood-stained ideology on earth.

Beware of demagogues.

[grantcart]

32. +1

[disillusioned73]

34. Are you calling this guy a demagogue??

That is not the impression I've gotten from what I've seen.. now, I am not in his state or district, but it seemed to me he would have been a lot better choice then the Republican..

[MrsCoffee]

45. Too late.

[Snotcicles]

25. I recall Micheal Moore speaking with him in Fahrenheit 11/9. nt

[harumph]

27. He voted for Trump which shows at the least, extremely bad judgment.

So bad, in fact, IMO he disqualifies himself. There are so many potential good candidates
that I have to strongly suspect the motives of posters soft peddling this guy.
If that gets me banned so be it.

[lunasun]

28. Please don't even

[dameatball]

33. There is something "off" with this guy. He sounds sincere, but I think he may have some

hidden issues. He may be able to pull things off in WV, but no way should even be able to sniff a Democratic presidential nomination.

[JHan]

35. He lost his race though.

[dameatball]

36. I missed that. Thought he won. Good point.

[JHan]

39. He still over performed for a red area, but... ultimately lost.

To be charitable, he could have lost by a lot more.

Now Michael Moore wants to tell me that this guy is the voice of the progressive working class when he wishes to limit abortion to rape and incest only, and is pro-gun-rights

This bothers me because it reveals the dishonesty behind a lot of the hype - no moderate dem would get away with those positions but because Ojeda is a vet, has some tattoos, is "anti-establishment", it's all good. It's obviously bullshit because I guess 3rd way, compromise politics is fine for some people, so much so they get called a voice of the progressive working class, but not for others who get dragged.

Still, I don't have a problem with him throwing his hat in, but uhm,.. he's gonna have a tough time.

[NewJeffCT]

40. was hoping he would challenge Capito

in 2020.

[rogue emissary]

41. I don't see who will support this guy.

Now I didn't see the interview. Only read a profile and a quick blurb about his run.

Most Trump voter are cultist and would see him as a traitor. The people that may vote for him as a remorseful trump supporter are maybe 5-10% Max.

His anti-choice and pro-gun stance will alienate him with at least 50% of the most loyal Democratic voters.

[jcgoldie]

43. No thanks - voting for Trump is about as disqualifying as it gets

We all already knew exactly who Trump was in 2016 and if anyone could overlook that then they can fuck right off.

[helpisontheway]

46. Awww Hell no..anyone that voted for Trump is a NO for me!!nt