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(20,628 posts)irisblue
(32,931 posts)But those kids & horses
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Lots of horse ranches in that area. So sad.....
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)So sad. The GOP loving that CA is aflame. Esp. the russian who stole the WH.
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)People down there must be feeling the effects of smoke pollution.
Some rain expected here next Tuesday.
There has been almost none for 8 months.
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)We treat them like the rock stars they are up here in Montana. Unlike the pResident.
kacekwl
(7,014 posts)associated with Hell now. How devastating . The last picture so fitting to the seemingly impossible work the firefighters and others are up against. Hero's one and all.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)hlthe2b
(102,132 posts)prevent spread to the nearby major urban/suburban areas. After the total destruction of the town of Paradise, CA, I no longer believe that.
It is no longer only the Mountain communities and isolated mountain homes at risk. Front range communities proximal to the foothills may increasingly be at risk in the future--particularly given the risk of brush fires from dry grassland on their Eastern borders pairing with out of control wildfires to the West. This past summer I watched as a brush fire started to take over I-25 lanes before being beaten back, while a stream of cars in heavy traffic were essentially sitting ducks . This was so frightening and has been repeated in spades in Southern California.
I can not sufficiently express my sorrow to those impacted in California, just as I have in past years in my own state. The magnitude is exponentially higher in CA, with the incredible fatalities and destruction of homes. Not to fail to mention the loss of wildlife and domestic pets, which may not be paramount to many, but hurts me to my core. I see those pictures and feel so damned helpless.
My hope is that we will help those who can least afford to survive this and recreate their lives, to somehow be made "whole" while learning the intense and imminent lessons of the consequences of climate change.
Hela
(440 posts)That last image is so powerful, I almost hate to burst anyone's bubble. It's actually from a firefighter training exercise in 2013. Still a great photo, but not from Woolsey.
https://yourshot.nationalgeographic.com/photos/1461445/
angrychair
(8,680 posts)Great pics but the source of some is questionable and if the photo has been altered or not seems likely on several. I do wildland firefighting as a basecamp manager and Ive seen a lot of photos and rarely are they that dramatic.
LakeArenal
(28,804 posts)PaulX2
(2,032 posts)Donald?
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,332 posts)niyad
(113,074 posts)buildings, etc? Result of some sort of electronic weapons.
one wonders how these crazies manage to function. I am printing these off to show one of them.
niyad
(113,074 posts)management of forests.
there are words, most of which would net me a visit from the suits.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)heartbreaking. When will we ever get a break?
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)is the road behind my house, Kanan. A week ago I was in Santa Fe and my husband was asleep in our house in California. He had taken 2 Tylenol PM because of knee pain and didnt hear his phone erupting when our neighborhood was placed under mandatory evacuation orders. Our daughter lives nearby, was also under evacuation orders and couldnt reach him. Our grandsons were dispatched to wake up Papou. After he was awakened the night was sleepless there and in Santa Fe.
Were lucky. Everyone is safe. Our friends and neighbors are safe. Pets are safe and, though landscaping burned in a few spots, my friends and familys homes survived.
My husband flew to New Mexico last Friday. He returned Tuesday to help his office reopen. I havent seen the devastation yet but have been told by all that its a moonscape, this beautiful place.
My heart is broken for everyone who lost a loved one, human or animal, or a home.
California, I love you.
Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Thankful you and yours are safe, BadgerMom....
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Our earth is crumbling.
littlemissmartypants
(22,590 posts)Willing to give a visible voice to the animals, human victims and heroes of this devastating and horrifying disaster.
inwiththenew
(972 posts)From climate change to building in areas with high risks of forest fires is a deadly combination. Vox had an article on this the today.
[link:https://www.vox.com/2018/8/7/17661096/california-wildfires-2018-camp-woolsey-climate-change|
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,816 posts)and was only there for 2 1/2 years, the biggest lesson I learned was that if you live in the mountains you can expect to be burned out at some point.
I also read several years ago that too many people in California were building in the mountains with zero understanding of the potential for fires, and almost no preparation for one. Sort of like the way people build at the ocean's edge, or next to a river and are completely astonished when a hurricane happens, or severe rains cause catastrophic flooding.
Simply put, there are too many people on this planet already, and we don't always make good choices about where to live.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)or in underground homes like they did on the prairies.
PatSeg
(47,279 posts)Unbelievable.
cilla4progress
(24,718 posts)Eastern Washington. Was mandatory evacuated this summer - moved horses out for a month. Horses and approaching wildfire is a bad situation.
The stuff of my nightmares. Fortunately never lost a pet to fire.
A relative lost her home in Paradise. I was able to donate via FB last night.
No words.
dem in texas
(2,673 posts)Thank you for posting the images, it really shows how terrible it is out there. One minute sound bites on TV don't really give you a feel for what these poor people are going through.
AZ8theist
(5,410 posts)I have nothing to say...no words....those pictures ....