Florida Senate Race Heads to a Hand Recount

[red dog 1]

The Hill
November 15, 2018
5:09 PM EST


The Florida Senate race between Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) and Gov. Rick Scott (R) is heading to a hand recount after the latest round of machine tallies showed the two candidates still neck and neck.

Nelson and Scott were separated by a margin of about 0.15 percentage points, according to results of a machine recount released Thursday - a narrow enough margin to trigger a hand recount under state law.

The hand recount must be completed by Sunday, in time for a Nov. 20 deadline for state officials to certify the final election results.

A manual recount does not mean that every ballot is counted by hand.
Instead, local election officials will sort through so-called overvotes and undervotes - ballots on which voters marked either more or fewer than the maximum number of selections allowed

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[Gothmog]

1. This is great news

[Eric J in MN]

2. Florida, view this post about making sure your vote counted

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10457521

[red dog 1]

5. Thanks for that link

[Eric J in MN]

9. You're welcome. NT

NT

[cureautismnow]

3. As I understand it, they will only hand count undervotes and overvotes.

They will assume that the ballots that went through the machines without errors were counted correctly. That's not a true hand count. A true hand matches the machine counts against hand counts. I would never trust the counting machines without a paper verification.

[red dog 1]

4. + 1

You're right!
They will only count overvotes and undervotes.
That's NOT a "true" hand count.

[cureautismnow]

6. Hillsborough County turns up 846 fewer Votes! WTF?!

Did the machines just ADD votes for the fun of it?!

"Hillsborough County will not submit the results of its recount to the state after it turned up 846 fewer votes."

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/11/15/hillsborough-county-wont-submit-recount-results-after-fewer-votes-tallied-in-new-count/

[StevieM]

8. I'd like to verify that Putin didn't change the election results. (eom)

[Eric J in MN]

10. In MN, our optical scanners

...immediately reject ballots with overvotes so the voter knows there is a problem and can fill out a new ballot.

[cureautismnow]

12. That's a nice feature to have, but it appears not every MN county got updated machines.

At least according to this article.

"Counties in Minnesota will still use voting machines manufactured during the George W. Bush Administration during the upcoming midterm election.

At least 20 counties expect to use machines that are more than a decade old, according to data collected by 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS.

New York University's Brennan Law Center said the outdated machines pose "serious safety risks."

https://kstp.com/news/minnesota-voting-machines-over-decade-old-election-security/4827700/

Perhaps, the old machines had that feature? IDK.. In any event, I still wouldn't trust any machine (new or old) unless it was actually verified by a full hand count.

[hlthe2b]

7. What about the governor's race?

[red dog 1]

14. After the so-called recount was completed, the Repuke DeSantis appears to have won

Here are the latest totals as of about 7 PM last night (Thursday)

DeSantis (R) - 4,075,445 votes (49.58 percent)

Gillum (D) ---- 4,041,762 votes (49.18 percent)

So, out of more than 8 million votes, DeSantis got 33,683 more votes than Gillum

[hlthe2b]

15. Damn, damn, damn...

But, thanks for the response.

[Eric J in MN]

11. Florida should get rid of these ridiculously tight deadlines for recounts. NT

NT

[cureautismnow]

13. + Infinity