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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:12 PM Nov 2018

Lou Dobbs: 'many' illegal immigrants voted in midterms and had 'immense impact

Since the midterm elections, no evidence has emerged suggesting results were tainted by illegal votes, from illegal immigrants or anyone else.

“You know,” the Fox Business Network host said on his show Thursday, “millions of illegal immigrants cross our borders, and many of them [were] voting in the past election that’s what, just a couple weeks ago, and having an immense impact.”

Dobbs later asked, “Are we just sitting here, helpless against anyone who wants to cross that border, and to have their way with the American way?”

Dobbs didn’t even pretend to have evidence of the illegal voting Thursday night. He just said it, apropos of nothing, during his show, “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”

The statement was par for the course for Dobbs, who was bashing immigrants before it was fashionable, citing misleading evidence or none at all. Last month, he invoked the word “invasion” dozens of times on his program when talking about the migrant caravan, according to NPR, parroting the same language used by President Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/11/16/lou-dobbs-casually-makes-up-story-that-many-illegal-immigrants-voted-midterms-had-immense-impact/?utm_term=.5bfb3722cb0f

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Lou Dobbs: 'many' illegal immigrants voted in midterms and had 'immense impact (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Nov 2018 OP
Damn liar. dalton99a Nov 2018 #1
"Dobbs didn't even pretend to have evidence of the illegal voting" flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #2
"bellyfeel" in newspeak DBoon Nov 2018 #9
Stephen Colbert referred to the phenomenon as "truthiness" flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #13
IF anybody could be worst than RUMP bluestarone Nov 2018 #3
Someone can only believe this if they themselves never actually vote. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #4
One can only believe this if they never actually THINK. If 12M unauthorized immigrants could vote, flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #16
This sort of shit is inciteful. It is the political equivalent of shouting fire in a theater. Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #5
Pushback is called a boycott RainCaster Nov 2018 #6
No one single bit of evidence. C_U_L8R Nov 2018 #7
We need a Fairness Doctrine for cable news davekriss Nov 2018 #8
I'd settle for a Facts Doctrine DBoon Nov 2018 #10
The Ton Of Fun Dobbs is full of bs, and he's an *amateur*. nt TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #11
Mentor has high praise for Dobbs! struggle4progress Nov 2018 #12
Shut up you senile, old racist asshole nmgaucho Nov 2018 #14
Somehow we need to sue him for proof Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #15
He threw in a right wing dog whistle, too. Hugin Nov 2018 #17
Maybe he should be called as a witness to a House hearing onenote Nov 2018 #18

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
2. "Dobbs didn't even pretend to have evidence of the illegal voting"
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:16 PM
Nov 2018

Facts? Evidence? Proof? Documentation? WTF are those?

DBoon

(22,357 posts)
9. "bellyfeel" in newspeak
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018


The word bellyfeel refers to a blind, enthusiastic acceptance of an idea.

"Consider, for example, such a typical sentence from a Times leading article as Oldthinkers unbellyfeel Ingsoc. The shortest rendering one could make of this in Oldspeak would be: 'Those whose ideas were formed before the Revolution cannot have a full emotional understanding of the principles of English Socialism.' But this is not an adequate translation. [...] [O]nly a person thoroughly grounded in Ingsoc could appreciate the full force of the word bellyfeel, which implied a blind, enthusiastic and casual acceptance difficult to imagine today." — Orwell's 1984 appendix[12]

- Wikipedia

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
13. Stephen Colbert referred to the phenomenon as "truthiness"
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:29 PM
Nov 2018

truthiness

noun

informal

The quality of seeming or being felt to be true, even if not necessarily true.


Origin
Early 19th century (in the sense ‘truthfulness’): coined in the modern sense by the US humorist Stephen Colbert.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
4. Someone can only believe this if they themselves never actually vote.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:23 PM
Nov 2018

Even though you generally don't have to show ID (and shouldn't, in my opinion), they do need to check you off against who you say you are on the voters rolls. And, please correct me if I'm wrong, if you show up to vote without already having been registered in any one of the 17 states that have same day registration, I suspect you definitely must show some proof of where you live.

The nonsense that illegal immigrants simply show up and vote, or that people vote over and over again is firmly rooted in a complete lack of understanding of how the system actually works.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
16. One can only believe this if they never actually THINK. If 12M unauthorized immigrants could vote,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:35 PM
Nov 2018

Hillary R Clinton would be our current president.

Stinky The Clown

(67,791 posts)
5. This sort of shit is inciteful. It is the political equivalent of shouting fire in a theater.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:32 PM
Nov 2018

Yes. First amendment.

Yes. There need to be standards imposed by the conduits of such shit.

Yes. Pushback of serious weight needs to be applied.

RainCaster

(10,869 posts)
6. Pushback is called a boycott
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 12:36 PM
Nov 2018

When you make it a practice to pull "facts" out of your backside like DFT does, you deserve to have your show boycotted. Let the sponsors know.

DBoon

(22,357 posts)
10. I'd settle for a Facts Doctrine
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:03 PM
Nov 2018

statements made without reference to facts would be sanction-able if uttered during the course of a news program

struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
12. Mentor has high praise for Dobbs!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018

Joseph Goebbels, who has long served as mentor to Lou Dobbs at Fox, today offered high praise for his student

"I've always encouraged people to tell big brazen damnable lies instead of little harmless ones," said Mr Goebbels, "and Lou does that!"

onenote

(42,700 posts)
18. Maybe he should be called as a witness to a House hearing
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:41 PM
Nov 2018

where he can be asked to provide evidence supporting his allegations of widespread criminal activity.

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