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Latest on Avenatti (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 OP
This case gets curiouser and curiouser Small-Axe Nov 2018 #1
It was interesting there was a troll ready to join DU as soon as the rzemanfl Nov 2018 #3
Oh we have our resident ones who ran with the story and posted it over and over. brush Nov 2018 #7
Sinclair floating some conspiracy theories mobeau69 Nov 2018 #2
The more I hear who's "interested" the more I think it was a setup. nolabear Nov 2018 #4
It would seem odd for someone who is considering a run for the presidency. And Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #21
The only thing that would upset me is if.... LakeArenal Nov 2018 #5
I doubt he is into fungiphilia. Hugin Nov 2018 #6
Fungiphilia!! Stargazer09 Nov 2018 #8
... Hugin Nov 2018 #10
Putting the "fun" in "fungus" lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #33
+1 Hugin Nov 2018 #40
Hey. . . Once you've had spore, you'll always want more! TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #9
Hey, I've tried a shroom or two back when ... JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #22
"They" go after people who can hurt them, watoos Nov 2018 #11
unfortunately some dem senators took alt right's bait AlexSFCA Nov 2018 #19
+1 Power 2 the People Nov 2018 #30
Since we seem to have landed back in the Watergate era, CaptYossarian Nov 2018 #12
Donald Segretti was Nixon's dirty tricks guy; Liddy "just" did the burglaries n/t DonaldsRump Nov 2018 #29
Don't forget Charles W. Colson. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #39
It's a dirty right wing trick, nothing more. steventh Nov 2018 #13
Harvey Levin is due for some karma nt maryellen99 Nov 2018 #16
It's Rat Fucking... BlueIdaho Nov 2018 #14
Has he commented that Izzy Blue Nov 2018 #15
Hit Job Cal Tek Nov 2018 #17
How is it possible he was "arrested" and no one knows what happened? Renew Deal Nov 2018 #18
Shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Squinch Nov 2018 #20
This whole thing was fishy from the get go. MontanaMama Nov 2018 #23
The timing of this hit coincided with the announcement of an investigation into the corruption... Hugin Nov 2018 #24
Linky: Hugin Nov 2018 #31
It was a set up all right. ananda Nov 2018 #25
Yeah, it stunk from the get-go. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #27
It's amazing to me that anyone thought anything by TMZ, a Trump mouthpiece, could be true. Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #26
I'm sure the usual DU suspects who breathlessly antagonize Avenatti here Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #28
Always up for a circular firing squad... Hugin Nov 2018 #34
Avenatti is obviously completely innocent. Bunch of lies about him. Bonx Nov 2018 #37
I am waiting, as Carnival music plays in the background BannonsLiver Nov 2018 #42
Harvey Levin should... Mike Nelson Nov 2018 #32
Sounds like it's not " the news" part but the person who made the claim in cahoots . Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #36
Mozart's Requiem Blue Owl Nov 2018 #35
RWNJ Swifboating Liberal In Texas Nov 2018 #38
Man is innocent until proven otherwise . Having said that Jarqui Nov 2018 #41
Thanks. Something is fishy and something sounds bad...both at the same time. Guess we Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #44
Thaaaaaaaat... czarjak Nov 2018 #43
Now we get it MFGsunny Nov 2018 #45
Right wing trolls hate Avenatti I noticed. Kingofalldems Nov 2018 #46

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
3. It was interesting there was a troll ready to join DU as soon as the
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:07 PM
Nov 2018

TMZ story hit and stir the pot. MIRT got that one and probably others I missed.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. It would seem odd for someone who is considering a run for the presidency. And
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:43 PM
Nov 2018

For someone whose exes say he would never hurt anyone huh.

Although strange he doesn’t give more detail...like, “ I was on a date with so and so....”. Or “I haven’t been out with or visiting anyone in last week...”. Guess those details will eventually come huh

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. "They" go after people who can hurt them,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:51 PM
Nov 2018

have the ability to change the right wing narrative.

Franken was a main reason that Sessions was forced to recuse himself that gave us Mueller.
Mueller, well, self explanatory.
Avenatti exposed Cohen which led to the raids on his properties and his turning on Trump.

I am not a person who believes in coincidences, I believe these people were targeted. If Avenatti was set up then he is still a viable candidate for president.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
19. unfortunately some dem senators took alt right's bait
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:34 PM
Nov 2018

who’s next if it continues to go unchallenged. Unlike Franken, Avenatti is willing to fight.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
12. Since we seem to have landed back in the Watergate era,
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 04:53 PM
Nov 2018

this Avenatti smear and Stormy Daniels' arrest in Ohio remind me of the "Dirty Tricks" by G. Gordon Liddy. Trump even has an Enemies List.

I need a flux capacitor and a DeLorean.

steventh

(2,143 posts)
13. It's a dirty right wing trick, nothing more.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:04 PM
Nov 2018

Can't wait to see who Avenatti goes after. I could almost feel sorry for him/her/them/it.

maryellen99

(3,785 posts)
16. Harvey Levin is due for some karma nt
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

He’s a disgusting pig plus a Kardashian/Jenner/trump boot licker.

 

Izzy Blue

(282 posts)
15. Has he commented that
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

the $50,000 bail is also a lie?
That amount seems quite high if there wasn't evidence of a physical assault?

 

Cal Tek

(41 posts)
17. Hit Job
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

LAPD is very right-wing. I'm sure they'd take any opportunity to put a guy like Avenatti "in his place."

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
23. This whole thing was fishy from the get go.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:54 PM
Nov 2018

What's weird to me is the timing. Why would tRump, Stone, Levin...whoever this was...do a hit job at this particular moment? Avenatti's act seems to be wearing thin on its own...why go after him right now in light of that? Unless he actually has something on the tRump clan that they are really afraid of. WTF.

Hugin

(33,045 posts)
24. The timing of this hit coincided with the announcement of an investigation into the corruption...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 05:58 PM
Nov 2018

surrounding the arrest in Ohio of Stormy Daniels on "Trumped Up" charges.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. Yeah, it stunk from the get-go.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

I doubted he was violent, but even if he were, he knew he had aspirations, so he would right now be on his best behavior. He has shown that he's not the sort of person not to be control of his behavior insofar as something like this goes. This arrest was a little too convenient.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. It's amazing to me that anyone thought anything by TMZ, a Trump mouthpiece, could be true.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:00 PM
Nov 2018

It is widely known that Harvey Levin & Trump are friends, and that Levin used his show & website, TMZ, to help Trump get elected, particularly helping him with the Access Hollywood tapes and other issues he had.

TMZ is like The National Enquirer. It's yellow journalism (to the extent it has any "news" at all), and a gossip rag.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
28. I'm sure the usual DU suspects who breathlessly antagonize Avenatti here
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:03 PM
Nov 2018

And wish that he would depart the scene sooner rather than later....are patiently waiting for every piece of evidence to be sorted out before admitting they jumped the gun on another Democrat, albeit a flamboyant, outspoken, and self-promoting one.

We do have a tendency to eat our own. Pity that.

Hugin

(33,045 posts)
34. Always up for a circular firing squad...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:13 PM
Nov 2018

and the opposition is quite aware of this fact.

We need to fix the tendency well before 2020.

Liberal In Texas

(13,530 posts)
38. RWNJ Swifboating
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nov 2018

It's what they're known for.

Tell a big lie and see how much of it sticks. The bigger the lie the better. There are people out there who will believe the lie long after the facts are known.

“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
41. Man is innocent until proven otherwise . Having said that
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 06:56 PM
Nov 2018

Here's links to TMZ stories on this that Avenatti denies:
http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/14/michael-avenatti-arrested-domestic-violence-stormy-daniels-attorney/

Our law enforcement sources say Avenatti was arrested Wednesday after a woman filed a felony DV report. We're told her face was "swollen and bruised" with "red marks" on both cheeks.

Our sources say the alleged incident occurred Tuesday night, but there was another confrontation Wednesday between the two at an exclusive apartment building in the Century City area of L.A.

We're told Wednesday afternoon the woman was on the sidewalk on her cellphone with sunglasses covering her eyes, sobbing and screaming on the phone, "I can't believe you did this to me. I'm going to get a restraining order against you."

We're told security brought her inside the building, took her upstairs and Michael showed up 5 minutes later and ran into the building. He screamed repeatedly, "She hit me first." We're told he angrily added, "This is bulls***, this is f***ing bulls***." We're told he tried getting into the elevator but security denied him access.

Cops showed up and escorted Avenatti into a corner of the apartment lobby and spoke with him for 5 to 10 minutes and then took him into custody.

A law enforcement source says on Tuesday, Avenatti "kicked her out of the apartment" and that's when the alleged domestic violence occurred. We're told she went back to the apartment on Wednesday to retrieve her belongings and called police to stand by in case things got heated.

We're told Avenatti is currently in custody.



A follow up TMZ story
http://www.tmz.com/2018/11/16/michael-avenatti-domestic-violence-arrest-jacob-wohl/
Michael Avenatti sure doesn't seem worried about his felony domestic violence arrest, and he's literally pointing the finger at right-wing conspiracy theorist Jacob Wohl for what he says is a frame job.

We got Avenatti leaving Dan Tana's restaurant Thursday night in WeHo, and he tripled down that he is certain he'll be exonerated after an investigation, and then it's judgment day for Wohl.

Avenatti clearly thinks Wohl -- who was implicated in the false sexual misconduct claims against Robert Mueller last month -- has trumped up the domestic violence allegations against him.

For his part, Wohl has denied he's behind the DV allegations.

And, Avenatti seems more than confident ... Stormy Daniels will remain his client, despite her wait-and-see comments Wednesday.


But here is a non media report that has some teeth to it

Arrest Announcement of Michael Avenatti NR18291ml
http://lapdonline.org/home/news_view/64792
Los Angeles: The Los Angeles Police Department West Los Angeles Detectives have arrested Mr. Michael Avenatti

On Wednesday, November 14, 2018, at 2:05 p.m., Michael Avenatti, 47-year-old resident of Los Angeles was placed under arrest, Booking # 5473086, for 273. 5 (a) PC Intimate Partner Violence at the 10000 block of Santa Monica Boulevard in Los Angeles.

Avenatti was booked for the above-mentioned charge on November 14, 2018, at 3:44 p.m., with bail amount set for $50,000.00

The case will be presented to the Los Angeles County District Attorney for prosecution.


There is a potential problem with it.
https://www.losangelescriminallawyer.pro/california-penal-code-section-273-5-a-pc-corporal-injury-to-spou.html
Cohabitants, as used in the statute, means more than roommates and instead describes a relationship of two people living together for a substantial period of time.

Since his wives (one recent split up) have spoken out to defend him
http://fortune.com/2018/11/15/avenatti-domestic-violence-arrest-defense/
"Cohabitant ... describes a relationship of two people living together for a substantial period of time"

"cohabitants" requirement for this charge is suspect here.

I do not know what to think. I like Avenatti. He usually gets his story right. But like many stories, there are two sides. I'm not going to try to pass judgment at this point. What we can say is the LAPD charge is some evidence that something appears to have gone on and the LAPD must have something to back it up or the charge would not have been laid.

Whether Avenatti is guilty or not is inconclusive based upon what I have seen.
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
44. Thanks. Something is fishy and something sounds bad...both at the same time. Guess we
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:28 AM
Nov 2018

Will just have to wait.

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