Charlie Pierce on Kathleen Rice, a leader of the Dem anti-Pelosi movement

[octoberlib]

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I asked Kathleen Rice - a leader of the Dem anti-Pelosi movement - if she’s concerned this fight will show their party in disarray. “It was not as successful as some hoped it would be, we didn’t pick up as many seats as we thought we were going to get,” she said of the midterms.

She added: “Yes are in the majority, but if we don’t start listening to voters and the message they are sending us, then we’re not going to be the majority again.”

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@CharlesPPierce

More Charles P. Pierce Retweeted Manu Raju
I note that Rep. Rice was a Republican until 2005 and, according to this report, is eager to work "across the aisle" with her former colleagues. This whole thing sounds like a put-up job to defang the new majority in its crib.





I, for one , am satisfied with the number of seats we got ! Is she implying we didn't lean right enough and pick up more seats in red districts?

From the link in Charles Pierce's tweet:

Four local Republican officials crossed party lines to endorse Democratic Rep. Kathleen Rice for Congress on Tuesday, citing her efforts toward bipartisan public service.

“Kathleen Rice listens to her constituents, represents her entire constituency rather than just a select few,” said Thomas Tweedy, mayor of the Village of Floral Park. “She has earned our respect and support.” https://theislandnow.com/politics-99/kathleen-rice-wins-backing-from-gop-officials/

[Glimmer of Hope]

1. Whatever Ms. Rice.

[MrsCoffee]

2. Talk about a disconnect.

[allgood33]

52. It won't help unless the Newbies in our party understand her background and possible intent.

That is why I say these exciting, bold new comers to positions of power really have a lot to learn. They need to learn how to study and research their own colleagues and not take everything as truth that is being thrown at them just because someone SAYS they agree with them. We, Democrats, are always infiltrated by the right.

They all need to take some time and do some research into their own issues, their colleagues, the HISTORY of the Democratic party, including the ugly history, the record and positions of their colleagues and who there opposition is and what the opposition has and will do.

[Hortensis]

53. I disconnected at "movement." Some factionalism is not

a movement.

A few people opportunistically maneuvering for committee assignments is not a movement.

A few resentful misogynistic white men grabbing a chance to cause trouble for a woman who far outstrips them in character and ability is not a movement.

The longstanding Republican effort to take out one of our best generals is not a movement.

[Bfd]

3. "This whole thing sounds like a put-up job to defang the new majority in its crib"

It is.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. Shit, I knew my prediction was right but I honestly prayed it wasnt. Well not prayed

since there aint no god but I really wanted to be wrong.

[Bfd]

29. You had it right all along Elliot.

Any more predictions?
Just asking

[Me.]

4. Didn't Pick Up As Many As They Thought?

Guess her heart is still w/the Cons

[octoberlib]

5. That's how I took it.

[DownriverDem]

43. From where we were

The Dems have picked up almost 40 seats as they won control of the House. The Dems stand an excellent chance of winning the Senate in 2020. The repubs have to defend 22 seats in 2020. We just have to stay united and keep our eyes on the short and long term goals.

[Me.]

44. Part Of That Will Be Ignoring The Naysayers

[Cha]

6. Talk about Fucking Eyeore!

lol@working across the aisle with fascist doormats for trump. I'm sure they'll come around on Climate Change and holding trump accountable.

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[octoberlib]

8. Lol, Cha

[Bfd]

10. Haa! K & R Cha's post

[Cha]

11. Thanks, BFD!

[Tarheel_Dem]

30. I love that cartoon Cha!

[Cha]

31. Me too, Tarheel!

1%ers and magas

[Hermit-The-Prog]

34. Nancy can derail the trump train

Looking forward to McConnell blustering about bipartisanship on the Senate floor, every time the House sends a bill or starts a new investigation.

Switching from train to music...

Pelosi can be an excellent conductor, waving that gavel like a baton over an orchestra of House committees filled with seasoned artists and newbies galore. That's another reason for Pelosi; she knows how to get them all timed and tuned together.

[Cha]

39. Eloquiently stated, Hermit.. Mahalo

Pelosi can be an excellent conductor, waving that gavel like a baton over an orchestra of House committees filled with seasoned artists and newbies galore. That's another reason for Pelosi; she knows how to get them all timed and tuned together.

Nancy has earned it..

Vice-Presidential Candidate Joe Biden and Presidential candidate Barack Obama greet congressional leaders Nancy Polisi and John Kerry at the Democratic National Convention, Denver, Colorado, August 25-28, 2008

[smirkymonkey]

51. +1000

This!

[Me.]

46. They Better Not Mess With You Cha!

... ...

[Cha]

48. You either, Me!

[Me.]

54. ...

[Fullduplexxx]

7. Con mole in the party

[NoMoreRepugs]

14. This. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that

she's a sleeper. I put NOTHING past that evil cabal.

[Fullduplexxx]

17. She was a republican till 2005

[octoberlib]

24. From the link in Charles Pierce's tweet

Four local Republican officials crossed party lines to endorse Democratic Rep. Kathleen Rice for Congress on Tuesday, citing her efforts toward bipartisan public service.

“Kathleen Rice listens to her constituents, represents her entire constituency rather than just a select few,” said Thomas Tweedy, mayor of the Village of Floral Park. “She has earned our respect and support.”

[JudyM]

55. I've been thinking lately that this will be their next move, since they're going to lose their grip

on gerrymandering and control of elections at the state level.

[pecosbob]

9. Manu Raju...write many Republican talking points do you?

What's with the phrasing 'a leader of the Dem anti-Pelosi movement'? That's a really loaded way to put words into someone else's mouth for a reporter...

[NBachers]

12. Enjoy those great new committee positions, Kathy

[Fuzzpope]

13. Uh..

Every single one of these to infiltrating Repuke-lite f#ckers should be plopped into a lead wall political quarantine.

The right plays the long game, it took them decades to engineer and deploy the disaster zone we see today, I personally question whether a person is even capable of a true paradigm shift in the ideology they developed over an entire lifetime.

One day this, the next that?

No.

I agree, I smell sabotage. Walks like a duck, it's a duck.

[George II]

15. I actually think we gained more seats than we expected, there still are five up for grabs, too...

...(Democrats are ahead in 4 of them I think)

"if we don’t start listening to voters and the message they are sending us, then we’re not going to be the majority again" - did she bother to say what that message was?

[octoberlib]

18. Nate Silver predicted 30-40 so we're right on target.

The message I'm guessing is more to the center/right.

[UniteFightBack]

16. I'm in her district and I called her to convey my disappointment in her ridiculous position.

I'll be doing it again next week.

[octoberlib]

19. Thank you.

[SharonClark]

20. Thank you.

[BlueInRedHell]

21. Thank you.

[Retrograde]

32. Thanks - what's her district?

[UniteFightBack]

38. Nassau County, Long Island. nt

[lapucelle]

41. I'm in her district too. It's NY-04, Nassau county, LI.

I've never really liked her (even as the DA), but we're lucky to have that seat. Long Islanders have been electing people like Lee Zelden and Peter King for years. Rice is better than the alternative.

I had an odd encounter with her in October 2016. As I was on my way out the door to run a phone bank for Hillary, my own phone rang. It was Kathleen Rice who was phone banking that day for her own race. I told her that I didn't have time to talk, that I would be voting D., and that I hoped to see her at my own phone bank later that day. I remember that I said something like "Wait...you're calling for Kathleen Rice or you are Kathleen Rice?" when I answered the phone

I've called her office, and if she schedules any events I'll be there. Rice pulled the same crap two years ago. I wonder if any leader other than Nancy Pelosi would have been able to save the ACA in the summer of 2017.

[octoberlib]

50. Well, that's the thing. To keep

gaining seats in Congress , we’re going to have to win in districts like this. I can remember the articles when Gillibrand , who got elected in a red district, was in Congress of Nancy Pelosi tearing her hair out because Gillibrand voted with the Republicans most of the time. But we can’t let them take control of our party and determine its course.

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. I know we are not supposed to say negagive things about Democrats here...

so, I will keep my big mouth SHUT.

[iluvtennis]

23. Some of the endorsements for Pelosi for speaker - go Nancy!

@laureldavilacp 5h5 hours ago

As Democrats face our biggest threats in decades, our next Speaker must be a master legislator. Contemplate your binders full of women & #CompetentFemales while women DO THE WORK OF LEADING with the best legislator in generations again wielding the gavel. #TeamPelosi #ImWithNancy

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[Cha]

25. Mahalo!

[Bfd]

45. K n R! Quite a long impressive list of faithful followers. Pelosi has proven her worth to them all.

[mudstump]

27. The last thing we need is one more blue dog.

[Old Terp]

28. I support Steny and that girl from Baltimore

Nancy Pelosi

[onecaliberal]

33. Is she a republican plant.

[Wintryjade]

35. This stinks. And for X Republican and a couple white dudes telling us what we need to do

with our party, or else, is bullshit.

[Renew Deal]

36. Isn't Pierce also a republican?

[octoberlib]

49. Charlie Pierce? Are you serious? Ummm, no.

[The Liberal Lion]

37. Any dem that talks "bipartisanship" with the gross evil f.k.a the GOP but now more aptly called

the nazi party of America is not worthy of being a member of the democratic party as far as I am concerned. There can be zero negotiations with the nazis. They deserve little more than derision. Their leader is a traitor to America in fact and the party, in supporting this orange ass, is a traitor to American values. Where is there to find a middle ground with that? We must stand firm on liberal/progressive left wing values or we fall and go down in history as worthless as the social democrats just prior to the complete power take over of the NSDAP of Germany in 1933. Should we fail, the world shall know a whole new level of horror not before even imagined.

[kimbutgar]

40. Sounds like a Dem in name only.

Who knows if she reports to the repukes what’s going in the Democratic Caucus? Don’t trust her one it.

[apcalc]

42. Seems as if she is another Republican who

Ran as a Democrat...just to eff everything up, like the IDC in NY. Beware.

[Bfd]

47. Yup. They're easy to spot aren't they. We'll be watching this one also.

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