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James48

(4,435 posts)
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:35 PM Nov 2018

Melania Trump Racked Up $174,000 In Hotel Bills For a Day Trip To Toronto

First Lady Melania Trump ran up a six-figure hotel bill for a one-day trip to Toronto last year, according to federal spending records.

Government spending data show at least six separate Toronto hotel charges ranging from just under $12,000 to nearly $49,000 for a total of roughly $174,000. She did not spend the night.

The total was roughly eight times what it cost to house the first lady’s advance team, whose $18,000 in hotel expenses were broken out separately; in addition to the hotel charges, the first lady’s trip involved $21,000 in transportation costs.

Reports from the press pool that accompanied Trump on her September 23, 2017, Canadian excursion showed that her schedule involved multiple hotel stops. Based on those reports, this was her itinerary for the day:

Source: GovExec.com

More:
https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2018/11/melania-trump-racked-174000-hotel-bills-day-trip-toronto/152884/

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Melania Trump Racked Up $174,000 In Hotel Bills For a Day Trip To Toronto (Original Post) James48 Nov 2018 OP
I won't write what I'm thinking but you can imagine ailsagirl Nov 2018 #1
I think I'm imagining the same thing. blueinredohio Nov 2018 #66
I agree with Bette Midler. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #2
+1 dalton99a Nov 2018 #12
K&R Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #46
Are you serious? That is obscene! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #3
Catherine enid602 Nov 2018 #38
At least Catherine the Great was intelligent and turned Russia smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #41
Catherine enid602 Nov 2018 #43
I think those were just rumors. smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #45
Every time I see her described as First Lady TheCowsCameHome Nov 2018 #4
DUer Autumn calls her "First Nude." It fits. rzemanfl Nov 2018 #13
it does Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #22
Bette Midler called her "FLOTITS" in a tweet yesterday FakeNoose Nov 2018 #24
Floater enid602 Nov 2018 #39
Someone show my feeble brain... Cracklin Charlie Nov 2018 #5
A place to change clothes, probably. KatyaR Nov 2018 #37
That makes a little sense, but Retrograde Nov 2018 #47
Reception venues jberryhill Nov 2018 #52
also to fix her face spackle. needs the best lighting. no ladies loo. pansypoo53219 Nov 2018 #58
The cheap hustler is going to grift as much as she possibly can Maven Nov 2018 #6
Perfectly said. n/t mtnsnake Nov 2018 #7
Fucking Grifters Ferrets are Cool Nov 2018 #8
All that Upkeep Isn't Cheap dlk Nov 2018 #9
This is a kakistocracy malaise Nov 2018 #10
I guess we can count on fiscal conservatives to express their outrage. mnmoderatedem Nov 2018 #11
Canada should ban that gaslighting Cha Nov 2018 #14
Toronto can be an expensive city... Retrograde Nov 2018 #15
Was it one of those charge by the hour hotels? Autumn Nov 2018 #16
She's buying jewelry and clothes Johnny2X2X Nov 2018 #17
That was my thought. They're hiding her shopping expenses as official expenses. Solly Mack Nov 2018 #21
my thought also Demovictory9 Nov 2018 #23
that's why she wanted the person who was critical of her travels fired JI7 Nov 2018 #25
Interesting take. I had not thought of that. dameatball Nov 2018 #30
I read that as well. salin Nov 2018 #53
I can't think of any explanation. salin Nov 2018 #54
"Multiple Hotel Stops" Stinky The Clown Nov 2018 #18
Who does that? jberryhill Nov 2018 #61
That's a lot of room service Generic Brad Nov 2018 #19
That's why you never drink from the mini bar jberryhill Nov 2018 #33
*snort* smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #42
Reporter asksked about specifics but was told he would have to go through FOIA act. riversedge Nov 2018 #20
republicans are squandering our hard-earned tax dollars on junky luxuries for themselves Achilleaze Nov 2018 #26
A little George Harrison here Maeve Nov 2018 #36
Another good example of a grifter duforsure Nov 2018 #27
Hmm Bigredhunk Nov 2018 #28
republicans likely squandering our tax money on frikken russian caviar Achilleaze Nov 2018 #29
Conspicuous Consumption ..... MFGsunny Nov 2018 #31
Was this another reason why she had the woman fired recently? duforsure Nov 2018 #32
This is what I have been thinking. That was around $100,000.for 6 hours dewsgirl Nov 2018 #76
Let them eat Trump steaks. kairos12 Nov 2018 #34
Stop traveling!! NT SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #35
It ain't cheap... tonedevil Nov 2018 #40
Money laundering. n/t Greybnk48 Nov 2018 #44
Someone should show this report to all House Republicans. That is exactly their year's salary DFW Nov 2018 #48
Why would anyone hop from hotel to hotel to hotel on a one day trip? Vinca Nov 2018 #49
Because hotels have event and reception venues jberryhill Nov 2018 #51
she spoke at one reception for 100 athletes EleanorR Nov 2018 #56
I don't know what "they may have popped" means jberryhill Nov 2018 #60
one reception, one 8 minute speech, a few photos, and then she left EleanorR Nov 2018 #62
I doubt they book reception facilities by the minute jberryhill Nov 2018 #65
My point was, this wasn't a reception she was hosting EleanorR Nov 2018 #67
That's a possibility, but the cited article Retrograde Nov 2018 #68
She was the ceremonial head of the US delegstion jberryhill Nov 2018 #69
It was co-hosted by the Fisher House Foundation and the US Consulate General in Toronto EleanorR Nov 2018 #70
Well duh jberryhill Nov 2018 #71
and the Fisher House Foundation EleanorR Nov 2018 #72
Is a non profit charity that isn't renting ballrooms jberryhill Nov 2018 #73
I agree duforsure Nov 2018 #79
Wait - I'm confused. Isn't the "john" supposed to pay for the room? Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #50
I found one of their invoices: unblock Nov 2018 #55
I don't believe it NastyRiffraff Nov 2018 #57
Self entitled grifters and pigs, the whole family. nt jrthin Nov 2018 #59
What was that she said about, "I wish you would watch what I do..."? nt 2naSalit Nov 2018 #63
Karma needs to land on these people like planets colliding. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #64
Wilma Flintstone....charge it! Malaria on a taxpayer shopping spree at hotel boutiques. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #74
Sounds like a job for a congressional oversight hearing. GreatCaesarsGhost Nov 2018 #75
The first escort and nude model of the US was busy stuffing our tax dollars Farmer-Rick Nov 2018 #77
$95,000. For 4 Hours At A Cairo Hotel Me. Nov 2018 #78
... Scurrilous Nov 2018 #80
Are republicans going to re-pay the US Treasury for this squandering of... Achilleaze Nov 2018 #81
How does one run up such a large tab in one day? Gothmog Nov 2018 #82
Are there stores in high end hotels, where she could be buying purses, jewelry, etc.? nt tblue37 Nov 2018 #83
Melania plans to refund the US Treasury for her indulgent extravagances Achilleaze Nov 2018 #84
From now on, whenever we talk about these grifters grifting, we should say "RAKED" up maxrandb Nov 2018 #85
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
3. Are you serious? That is obscene!
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:43 PM
Nov 2018

I did not get anything at the link posted.

She didn't even spend the night! That's Marie Antoinette territory! Where is the accountability? I think we deserve an accounting of just what the Trump family has been spending during their tax-payer funded trips.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. At least Catherine the Great was intelligent and turned Russia
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:42 PM
Nov 2018

into one of the great powers of Europe. Melania is useless.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
45. I think those were just rumors.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 01:00 PM
Nov 2018

Catherine the Great did have many lovers, but I think the other things were all made up.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
4. Every time I see her described as First Lady
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:44 PM
Nov 2018

I want to vomit and then throw something across the room.

First Lady, my ass............Bette nailed it.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
24. Bette Midler called her "FLOTITS" in a tweet yesterday
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 01:01 AM
Nov 2018

It's a pun based on "FLOTUS" meaning the First Lady of the United States, and you can guess the rest.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
5. Someone show my feeble brain...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:49 PM
Nov 2018

How this is even possible.

She didn’t spend the night?
What were these charges for?

KatyaR

(3,445 posts)
37. A place to change clothes, probably.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:29 AM
Nov 2018

And she probably had to have the highest-cost room in the hotels to do it.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
47. That makes a little sense, but
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:36 PM
Nov 2018

raises a few more questions:
-why does she have to change clothes so often, and
-why can't she just have one base of operations and change all her outfits there?

Or why not just change in the car like I hear regular voters do?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. Reception venues
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:32 PM
Nov 2018

Does everyone think she held a reception for the Invictus athletes and the prince in a hotel room?

Maven

(10,533 posts)
6. The cheap hustler is going to grift as much as she possibly can
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 07:57 PM
Nov 2018

Just like her husband. They're both disgusting.

mnmoderatedem

(3,724 posts)
11. I guess we can count on fiscal conservatives to express their outrage.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:28 PM
Nov 2018

oh wait trump. Crickets as usual.

Cha

(297,137 posts)
14. Canada should ban that gaslighting
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:43 PM
Nov 2018

2 bit hustler for life.

How dare she show her "I don't care" face there.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
15. Toronto can be an expensive city...
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 08:49 PM
Nov 2018

and when you factor in the exchange rate - oh, that currently works in the US's favor. Obviously she needed them to cope with the time change - oh, wait, Toronto's the same time zone as DC and NYC.

A more charitable person's mind would be thinking of kickbacks; my mind is going more to padding the bills and overstating expenses.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
17. She's buying jewelry and clothes
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 09:15 PM
Nov 2018

She’s shopping at hotels. Taxpayers are buying her diamonds and designer dresses. She should go to jail for this but she won’t.

salin

(48,955 posts)
54. I can't think of any explanation.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:36 PM
Nov 2018

Tours of the most expensive hotel boutiques.

Maybe getting design ideas for a future jewelry line?

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
19. That's a lot of room service
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:10 PM
Nov 2018

Because there is no way she would excessively overpay with the (wink wink) understanding that the hotel would keep some and give her back the majority through a kick back to a front organization. She wouldn't do that? Would she? Nah.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
42. *snort*
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 12:45 PM
Nov 2018


At that sum, she must have been plastered at the end of the day. Being married to Donald, I suppose I can't blame her.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
20. Reporter asksked about specifics but was told he would have to go through FOIA act.
Fri Nov 16, 2018, 10:37 PM
Nov 2018


...........Asked about the details of the expenses, the first lady’s office referred specific questions to the State Department, which told us we would a need to file Freedom of Information Act requests for more information.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
26. republicans are squandering our hard-earned tax dollars on junky luxuries for themselves
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:00 AM
Nov 2018

I protest. If it ain't Melania pampering herself with our tax money, it's her republican spousal unit, Dirty Donny*, indulging in glorious, golden, fabulous golf goof-offs.

Hard-working American taxpayers deserve a huge refund from the "billionaire" republicans getting fat from the public treasury.



* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
36. A little George Harrison here
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:28 AM
Nov 2018

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.
In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.
Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. Another good example of a grifter
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:12 AM
Nov 2018

When a first lady spends that for a luxury travel junket to go shopping with OUR money , and while they robbed the American people of their health care. There needs to be accountability , and everything she spent on should be made public, period. Add to that her expenses for her trip to Africa too. All while the deficit under trump has sky rocketed upward to record levels now. They should be made to reimburse what they spent .

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
29. republicans likely squandering our tax money on frikken russian caviar
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:38 AM
Nov 2018

to please their prissy palates, and to stuff their corpulent gullets at taxpayer expense. Next time I hear one of the republicans claiming to 'conservative' I'm going to blow good, old, patriotic American catfish chunks on his $1,500 Bruno Magli republican loafers.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
32. Was this another reason why she had the woman fired recently?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:14 AM
Nov 2018

She was scared she'd out her to the press, or did for her Africa trip costs?

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
76. This is what I have been thinking. That was around $100,000.for 6 hours
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:36 PM
Nov 2018

I dont believe she ever entered the hotel.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
48. Someone should show this report to all House Republicans. That is exactly their year's salary
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:49 PM
Nov 2018

Several House of Representatives members have complained about the cost of living in the D.C area (it ain't cheap, I'll grant them that). I remember seeing a report or two about some of them complaining they can't live comfortably on $174,000 a year gross salary. OK, I want a statement from EVERY House Republican on how they justify the cost of a day trip to Toronto by Trump's wife being worth as much as they earn in a year. Any of them have an explanation?

I know, I might as well wait for the effects of gobal warming to be reversed in a weekend.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
49. Why would anyone hop from hotel to hotel to hotel on a one day trip?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 02:53 PM
Nov 2018

They should be raked over the coals on this one. That's an obscene amount of money to spend on a one day trip.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
51. Because hotels have event and reception venues
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:29 PM
Nov 2018

The article is written in an odd way to make it seem like these are all charges for accommodations instead of reception halls.

I doubt she met with the Invictus Games athletes and gave a speech in a hotel suite instead of a reception venue.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
56. she spoke at one reception for 100 athletes
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:49 PM
Nov 2018

And given Toronto was hosting the games and we just sent a delegation, they may have popped for the venue.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
60. I don't know what "they may have popped" means
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:54 PM
Nov 2018

But neither the City of Toronto nor the non-profit team organizer is paying for a reception for the First Lady, her entourage, the press, 100 athletes, etc., if that’s what “popped” is supposed to mean.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
62. one reception, one 8 minute speech, a few photos, and then she left
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:09 PM
Nov 2018

Still not adding up to 174 grand.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
65. I doubt they book reception facilities by the minute
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:19 PM
Nov 2018

If someone is holding a media event in a reception hall with 100+ guests, I doubt the charge is based on the period of time spend there by the host, since it renders the hall unavailable for anything else for the entire day.

I’m not defending profligate spending, but the way the article is written - by reference to room rates instead of conference and reception facilities - is for simpleminded people.

It’s a tiresome trope that is used regardless of the administration - e.g. the nattering on the right about the expense of the Obama’s attending a broadway performance in New York during that administration.

Whenever any of these people goes anywhere, it’s like moving the Barnum & Bailey circus. But to pretend these were payments for bedrooms is just plain stupid.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
67. My point was, this wasn't a reception she was hosting
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:57 PM
Nov 2018

She just stopped in to say a few words and then went to her next appointment.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
68. That's a possibility, but the cited article
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:32 PM
Nov 2018

only lists a couple of events:

12:09 pm (Sept. 23): Arrives in Toronto. The first lady travels to a downtown Sheraton, meets with Britain’s prince Harry for 20 minutes, and then departs for the Ritz-Carlton.

4 pm: Returns to Sheraton. The first lady meets with U.S. athletes competing in the Invictus Games (an event for disabled veterans created in 2014 by prince Harry) for 20 minutes. She delivers a speech that was one minute, 15 seconds long.

6:35 pm: Arrives at Air Canada Centre. The first lady greets prime minister Justin Trudeau and his family and watches the opening ceremony of the games from a VIP suite.

12:12 am (Sept. 24): Returns to Andrews Air Force base in Maryland.


The reception for the athlete could take place in a hotel ballroom or other function space, but why is the US paying for her to go to a foreign country to meet the grandson of the titular head of that country? Or to host the prime minister of that country? Shouldn't they be hosting her? And what was she doing at the Ritz-Carlton?

I've done a little bit of event planning, and venue costs can get up there if you don't have a halfway decent negotiator handling the details. The multiple hotels seems to me that she's found some new way of grifting, or her staff sucks at planning.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
69. She was the ceremonial head of the US delegstion
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:40 PM
Nov 2018

Canada wasn’t paying for a reception for the 100+ US athletes, of which she was the leader of the delegation.

It would be more informative to get the details in the expense, but the “omg X spent Y on Z” trope is hardly a new one. It’s a time-honored trope.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
70. It was co-hosted by the Fisher House Foundation and the US Consulate General in Toronto
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 11:11 PM
Nov 2018

She just stopped by to speak briefly and take a few photos.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
71. Well duh
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 11:23 PM
Nov 2018

“Asked about the details of the expenses, the first lady’s office referred specific questions to the State Department”

Do you know who runs the US consulate in Toronto?

Trump was the symbolic head of the delegation. The US State Department, to whom questions are about the expenses are referred, held a reception for the 100+ athletes in the delegation of which Trump, as the head thereof, appeared and gave a speech. Yes, the US consulate in Toronto is a facility of the US state department.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
73. Is a non profit charity that isn't renting ballrooms
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:25 AM
Nov 2018

You can review their financials here:

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/10512082

It’s pretty clear they weren’t paying for the reception on that budget.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
50. Wait - I'm confused. Isn't the "john" supposed to pay for the room?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:21 PM
Nov 2018

I've been watching too many movies with mistakes in them.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
57. I don't believe it
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:50 PM
Nov 2018

Oh, I believe $174K was involved. But I think a big chunk of it went directly into somebody's pocket.

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
77. The first escort and nude model of the US was busy stuffing our tax dollars
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:36 PM
Nov 2018

into her g-string. She is living the ultimate sex worker's fantasy on our hard earned tax dollars.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
78. $95,000. For 4 Hours At A Cairo Hotel
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:38 PM
Nov 2018

and this. I think we need to see the itemized. These people are squandering the US Treasury. Don jr. goes to India for their business and it costs us 100K.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
81. Are republicans going to re-pay the US Treasury for this squandering of...
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:55 PM
Nov 2018

our hard-earned tax dollars? That would be honest thing. But they are republicans, and never do the honest or decent thing.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
84. Melania plans to refund the US Treasury for her indulgent extravagances
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:34 AM
Nov 2018

Not. She's a republican grifter, and feels 'special' - entitled to grift American taxpayers endlessly.

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