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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:53 PM Nov 2018

Trump on CA fires: "I was with the president of Finland...they spend lots of time raking"

Aaron Rupar

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REPORTER: What can be done to prevent wildfires?

TRUMP: "We have to take care of floors of the forest..in our countries they do it definitely & different story. I was w/president of Finland...they spend lots of time raking & cleaning & doing things & they don't have a problem."




Aaron Rupar

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Trump's update on California wildfires: "Still going very heavily. There is a big area of very intense flame right now that is next to a very explosive area, wouldn't you say? That's a very big problem right now & they're going, they're fighting like hell."


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Trump on CA fires: "I was with the president of Finland...they spend lots of time raking" (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2018 OP
Finland has free health care too, I believe. Kingofalldems Nov 2018 #1
Terrific public education as well Hekate Nov 2018 #22
It isn't known for having a dry, arid climate either. John Fante Nov 2018 #30
CNN Video and replies from CA members of DU at this link: Jeffersons Ghost Nov 2018 #63
No wonder they can spend all their time raking leaves mainer Nov 2018 #42
How does he tie his fucking shoes in the morning? Seriously, how does he remember to chew? hatrack Nov 2018 #2
And his fucken idiotic supporters. Total stooges, lambs and lemmings. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #7
Congratulations! you have just expressed my reaction to everything he says anymore. flying rabbit Nov 2018 #16
underpants Nov 2018 #51
You think he ties . His own shoes? mainstreetonce Nov 2018 #59
Peggy Noonan on Melania question everything Nov 2018 #62
Good questions. Maybe he wears loafers. 3catwoman3 Nov 2018 #67
RAGA! Rake America Great Again Thomas Hurt Nov 2018 #3
Dead John Fante Nov 2018 #34
Damn fucken idiot. Who writes his tweets for him. SNL? n/t RKP5637 Nov 2018 #4
Wouldn't it be easier if they vacuumed? eShirl Nov 2018 #5
Good one. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #8
lofl uponit7771 Nov 2018 #12
Well there you go, magats! Finally he created good jobs! Get out your rakes and clean that forest! unblock Nov 2018 #6
What a good word, magats. Hadn't heard it before. Is it your invention?? nt LAS14 Nov 2018 #64
It's a du term, been floating around here for a while ;) unblock Nov 2018 #65
Trump keeps stepping on his rake. SunSeeker Nov 2018 #9
Anyone else's concern meter go up every time this idiot opens his mouth? I mean there's no comedy uponit7771 Nov 2018 #10
That's pretty impressive. Finland has 1/6 the pop. density of CA, so they rake 6X as much per person RockRaven Nov 2018 #11
1500 prisoners are helping out with the fires too. IcyPeas Nov 2018 #13
Conan O'Brien used to spend time with the president of Finland, too. DFW Nov 2018 #14
Well, that logic would make Dennis Rodman the president of North Korea. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #17
Do you think anyone outside of North Korea would notice? n/t DFW Nov 2018 #19
tRump would just figure that Kim has a better tan machine than tRump's. Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #20
No danger, then. DFW Nov 2018 #26
Holy zombie brains Batman!!! BootinUp Nov 2018 #15
how do those handmade34 Nov 2018 #18
Impressive, isn't it? LOL Totally Tunsie Nov 2018 #21
I wondered the same thing. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #27
Right? SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #35
The man is an idiot. ghostsinthemachine Nov 2018 #23
This particular statement by him isn't too silly. Blue_true Nov 2018 #24
A lot of our fires are in chaparral: low, bushy habitat that evolved to burn over periodically... Hekate Nov 2018 #39
Florida is very flat. Blue_true Nov 2018 #43
Nope, Trump is a gigantic fucking moron, and this one of his John Fante Nov 2018 #41
You have no idea how much I wanted to throw up when I saw sense in what Trump said. Blue_true Nov 2018 #45
Isn't that what we used to do in the 50s and 60s before deciding it doesn't work meadowlander Nov 2018 #46
I vaguely remember Dozer rows, where a row was cut down to sand. Blue_true Nov 2018 #55
Finland: a small country with a totally different geology. Does he even know where it is? Hekate Nov 2018 #25
He couldn't spot Finland...on a map of Finland. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #28
Guess the Pacific Ocean has nothing to do with it. Vinca Nov 2018 #29
STFU! SammyWinstonJack Nov 2018 #31
Maybe he should have sent 5,000 troops to California to rake leaves, instead of sitting idle on the dameatball Nov 2018 #32
THAT onecaliberal Nov 2018 #38
Are you fucking kidding me? smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #33
Maybe they could use Roomba's in the forests. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2018 #36
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the severe drought. onecaliberal Nov 2018 #37
Or the high winds Hekate Nov 2018 #40
Or all the houses built where they shouldn't have been. meadowlander Nov 2018 #44
Oh really? So that city shouldn't have been built there huh? Enjoy the dust bin. onecaliberal Nov 2018 #61
And why is it he keeps appearing with his arms crossed, area51 Nov 2018 #47
To paraphrase Sean Bean . . . hatrack Nov 2018 #48
Somebody needs to ask him how often he smells burning toast. krispos42 Nov 2018 #49
Thank you, dump-- we Californians feel much better ailsagirl Nov 2018 #50
Well then carry your sorry ass to Finland underpants Nov 2018 #52
ROFL! Rake Our Forest's Leaves Yonnie3 Nov 2018 #53
I have a hard time believing he talked about .... CatMor Nov 2018 #54
He's a veritable ignoramus ailsagirl Nov 2018 #57
Anything outside of a rally in front of his base or a meeting with Putin, he's just not going to put Yavin4 Nov 2018 #56
Gavin Newsome was trying not to laugh MontanaMama Nov 2018 #58
Man, they could use some of that very wet water... Blue Owl Nov 2018 #60
Make America Rake Again! Ruby the Liberal Nov 2018 #66

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
30. It isn't known for having a dry, arid climate either.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:22 PM
Nov 2018

Trump is one of the most appallingly stupid human beings in earth.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
63. CNN Video and replies from CA members of DU at this link:
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:15 PM
Nov 2018

It is dry in New Mexico and as a result of Climate Change, we had several this year. We can expect increases in insurance costs on a national basis.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211444791

mainer

(12,022 posts)
42. No wonder they can spend all their time raking leaves
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:49 PM
Nov 2018

The Finns need to start posting videos of all the leaf raking they do.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
2. How does he tie his fucking shoes in the morning? Seriously, how does he remember to chew?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 04:54 PM
Nov 2018

Does he know how an elevator works, and the difference between "up" and "down"?

How can anyone THIS FUCKING STUPID live to be nearly 73 years old?

JESUS. FUCKING. CHRIST. JUST. ENOUGH.

question everything

(47,468 posts)
62. Peggy Noonan on Melania
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:58 PM
Nov 2018

"She’s married to a man who, emotionally and intellectually, is not exactly in the middle of the bell curve. "

Ya think?



3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
67. Good questions. Maybe he wears loafers.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 11:32 PM
Nov 2018

He might have trouble bending down far enough to reach shoelaces.

Without all his enablers, he'd be living in a cadboard box under a bridge.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
6. Well there you go, magats! Finally he created good jobs! Get out your rakes and clean that forest!
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:03 PM
Nov 2018

Hurry before the caravan come new and takes all those new jobs!

Boo!

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
10. Anyone else's concern meter go up every time this idiot opens his mouth? I mean there's no comedy
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:07 PM
Nov 2018

... skit that can express how freakin stupid this guy is.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
11. That's pretty impressive. Finland has 1/6 the pop. density of CA, so they rake 6X as much per person
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:08 PM
Nov 2018

and based on some quick math, that's 15.5 acres for every single person in Finland (old and young, male and female).

DFW

(54,341 posts)
14. Conan O'Brien used to spend time with the president of Finland, too.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:25 PM
Nov 2018

Maybe he should be president instead of Trump?

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
17. Well, that logic would make Dennis Rodman the president of North Korea.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 05:49 PM
Nov 2018

We can't have that now, can we?

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. tRump would just figure that Kim has a better tan machine than tRump's.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:08 PM
Nov 2018

Pompeo might notice the height difference.

Edited: Good Pharma makes bad typing. Oy surgery!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. This particular statement by him isn't too silly.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:11 PM
Nov 2018

In fact, it is something we should look into. After the devastating fires of early 2017, Florida began cutting back brush in forest areas. Don't know whether it is effective because it has been reasonably rainy since then. But cutting back some areas and using bladed rakes attached to tractors to clear ground residue should slow fires significantly because to grow, they would only have trees as fuel. The method would have to leave habitat for animals, and people will have to be restricted from building houses in the habitat areas. The procedure can be done out to a certain distance from populated areas to reduce costs and maximize the amount of habitat for wildlife.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
39. A lot of our fires are in chaparral: low, bushy habitat that evolved to burn over periodically...
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:40 PM
Nov 2018

Dried-out chaparral burns like you wouldn't believe, and of course when the wind is up the embers can travel far and fast into urban areas. Even our forests have seeds that only germinate after they have passed through fire.

And we are in a drought of many-years' duration with no end in sight. Pine forests weakened by drought long ago became infested with pine-bark beetles, which killed a lot of trees.

California is geologically diverse -- but the amount of space devoted to very rugged, very high mountains would probably surprise people only acquainted with our coast.

I don't know how much of Florida is mountainous, but I've always thought of it as pretty flat, and in any case the East Coast mountains are different from the geologically younger upthrust-tectonic-plate mountains of the West Coast.

>sigh< At least we don't get hurricanes.

You are certainly right about one thing: it is hazardous to build deep into the wildlands without also having adequate exit routes, whether in Malibu or Paradise.


Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. Florida is very flat.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:59 PM
Nov 2018

I was not denying the effects of climate change. Only idiots do that. But cutting down underbrush and clearing the ground near populated areas should help for two reasons, first the amount of fuel for a fire gets reduced, second, when it does rain, the rain gets to the roots of trees more efficiently, providing some minor moisture for the trees.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
41. Nope, Trump is a gigantic fucking moron, and this one of his
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:45 PM
Nov 2018

most idiotic statements yet. To insinuate that California leaders haven't looked into raking leaves as a way to prevent fires, is pretty insulting.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. You have no idea how much I wanted to throw up when I saw sense in what Trump said.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:08 PM
Nov 2018

But no one that I know should ever expect me to vote for a republican or wear a MAGA hat.

I didn't see him insult Cal leaders, maybe I missed that part.

But the technique involves more that raking straw and leaves. It involves removal of underbrush and grass in specific area to reduce fuel for a fire.

If we get to knee jerk opposing anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, we are making a serious mistake, because even if he has only one decent idea that we oppose, we get labeled as extremists, that is how republicans roll.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
46. Isn't that what we used to do in the 50s and 60s before deciding it doesn't work
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:10 PM
Nov 2018

and adopting more modern forest management techniques like controlled burning?

The problem is that it's a ecosystem that is designed to burn every few decades.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
55. I vaguely remember Dozer rows, where a row was cut down to sand.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:52 PM
Nov 2018

The problem was the rows were too narrow, fires jumped them, a second problem was that if they were not maintained, combustible material covered them.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
25. Finland: a small country with a totally different geology. Does he even know where it is?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:13 PM
Nov 2018

The Mad King is an international embarrassment.

dameatball

(7,396 posts)
32. Maybe he should have sent 5,000 troops to California to rake leaves, instead of sitting idle on the
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:27 PM
Nov 2018

border.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. Are you fucking kidding me?
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

I can't believe he said that without everyone present stuffing dirt into his fat pie-hole.

Arghhhhhhh! He is such a raging stupid fucktard!

area51

(11,905 posts)
47. And why is it he keeps appearing with his arms crossed,
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:20 PM
Nov 2018

looking like the petulant little boy that he is?

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
49. Somebody needs to ask him how often he smells burning toast.
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:36 PM
Nov 2018

I'd love for Acosta to ask him at the next press conference.

I mean, really, what on God's green earth is he talking about?

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
54. I have a hard time believing he talked about ....
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:51 PM
Nov 2018

raking forests with the president of Finland. I doubt he even knows the president of Finland's name.

Yavin4

(35,435 posts)
56. Anything outside of a rally in front of his base or a meeting with Putin, he's just not going to put
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 07:59 PM
Nov 2018

any energy or thought into it. Like a kid being dragged to church on Sunday morning.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
58. Gavin Newsome was trying not to laugh
Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:24 PM
Nov 2018

when the Shit Stain was talking and gesturing about raking. How did any of them contain themselves?

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