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Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:35 PM

Oh, dear God. the stupidity, it burns...



"You gotta take care of the floors. You know the floors of the forest,very important...I was with the President of Finland...he called it a forest nation and they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things and they don't have any problem."

3:43 PM - Nov 17, 2018

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Reply Oh, dear God. the stupidity, it burns... (Original post)
catbyte Nov 2018 OP
RockRaven Nov 2018 #1
Wintryjade Nov 2018 #4
Blue_true Nov 2018 #6
Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #7
Blue_true Nov 2018 #13
wasupaloopa Nov 2018 #8
Blue_true Nov 2018 #14
guillaumeb Nov 2018 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #3
Brother Buzz Nov 2018 #5
Ohiogal Nov 2018 #9
question everything Nov 2018 #10
Garrett78 Nov 2018 #11
Stuart G Nov 2018 #12
Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #15
Stuart G Nov 2018 #16
Rhiannon12866 Nov 2018 #17
Different Drummer Nov 2018 #18

Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:38 PM

1. Raking and cleaning... 131,000 square miles of forest, mountains, and lakes...

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:42 PM

4. "Raking and cleaning"... And stuff. Don't forget the stuff. Living wage? Republicans Hiring?

 

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:47 PM

6. That much doesn't have to be done.

Create buffer zones around populated areas and make safe escape routes. That cuts the area down to maybe 1/20th. I hate to say it, but if executed properly, the concept can make a positive difference.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:25 PM

7. not good for wildlife, though

We are constantly told to leave our gardens and yards kinda mess with leaves and debris to help the birds and small critters.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:34 PM

13. I over estimated the size of buffer zones.

To protect people and domesticated animals 1/100th to 1/1000th of all land would be affected. We should leave the "rugged individualist" types that refuse to live in or near civilization on their own.

But, you make a good point, if we allow forests to burn up to buffer zones, lots of wildlife will be sacrificed. Maybe the solution is a combination of buffer zones to partition forests where possible and controlled burns like someone indicated, that would save a lot more wildlife and also protect people and domesticated animals.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:56 PM

8. Look at Malibu. There is a great buffer zone to the west.

 

The Pacific Ocean

To the north is the Coast Highway which is surrounded by homes and businesses on both sides. You would have to throw people off their property to clear the land.

To the south is Los Angeles. There is no open space between the two cities. You can’t tell you are leaving one and entering the other one.

To the East are the mountains and hillsides.

You clear those and you get mud slides.

Nope your idea would not have saved Malibu.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:40 PM

14. There are exceptions to everything.

But in Northern California, such a plan would have likely saved lives.

I have done business in Southern California. You are right. I often saw canyons full of combustible vegetation and wildlife run right up to the yards of homes. People were ok with that, but they should be because there was nowhere else for the snakes and wildlife to live free if people.

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:38 PM

2. He is a tsumani of stupidity.

A Niagara of negativity.

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:41 PM

3. Except that they don't rake the forests in Finland

(which has a very different climate from CA), and this year they did have a very big problem with fires, along with the rest of Scandinavia, because of a lack of rain and abnormally high summer temperatures - 10C warmer than usual.

I hope someone gets in touch with the president of Finland and asks him whether he ever discussed forest fires with Orangehole McLittleDick, and if so, whether he told him they rake their forests.

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 08:46 PM

5. It's had to fathom, but the orange anus more sense during the debates

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 09:58 PM

9. His idiocy

is unequaled.

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:00 PM

10. Give credit to Jerry Brown and Gavin Newsom for trying to behave

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:10 PM

11. "...and doing things." He really does have all the best words.

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:24 PM

12. What makes him think he's got to say something?? Shut the fuck up...Moron,,and you will do better..

........got that.........SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU WILL DO BETTER..MORON!!!

................Yes, that moron is you...Donald Trump !!!


ok, the Moron got to say something...ok..."What a terrible disaster." that is what he should have said...
............if the Moron had to say something..

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:41 PM

15. He always feels he needs to weigh in, when he should be listening

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:44 PM

16. Great God...you used a word Trump does not know........."listen"...from "listening"

How does one teach someone to do that??????

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:47 PM

17. Well, I know a place he could learn

"Thanks, I'm just here to listen tonight."

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Response to catbyte (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2018, 10:49 PM

18. This quote from Plato seems appropriately applied to Tiny Toadstool.

“Wise men speak because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something.”

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