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Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:07 AM

US 'might lose' war against China or Russia, report to Congress says



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US 'might lose' war against China or Russia, report to Congress says
'US military superiority is no longer assured. The implications for American interests and security are severe'

Jon Sharman
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The Independent US
The US could lose a future war against Russia or China, a new report to Congress has suggested.

America is losing its edge while rivals innovate and blend conventional, cyber and even non-military capabilities to gain the upper hand in key regions, according to a dozen national security experts tasked by politicians with scrutinising Donald Trump’s national defence strategy.

The bipartisan group, led by former undersecretary of defence Eric Edelman and Gary Roughead, an ex-chief of naval operations, wrote: “The US military could suffer unacceptably high casualties and loss of major capital assets in its next conflict.

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The experts identified Mr Trump’s tax reform bill – which greatly benefited the most wealthy – as having drained potential defence funding, alongside tax cuts by both his immediate predecessors. The White House should look to increase taxation and slash entitlements to drastically increase funding available for the military despite the short-term “pain” the move would cause, they suggested.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-war-china-who-win-russia-national-defence-strategy-congress-report-donald-trump-a8636866.html?amp

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JonLP24 Nov 2018 OP
Salviati Nov 2018 #1
nilram Nov 2018 #2
democratisphere Nov 2018 #3
sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #4
duforsure Nov 2018 #5
Achilleaze Nov 2018 #6
shanny Nov 2018 #7
JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #8

Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:12 AM

1. If this is really the case.

Then we should nationalize the defense industry, because they're scamming us.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262742/countries-with-the-highest-military-spending/

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Response to Salviati (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:29 AM

2. Agreed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

I guess these guys are experts, but maybe another alternative is that we should spend our 610 BILLION (nearly twice China and Russia combined) more effectively rather than just add another zero to our checks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Edelman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Roughead

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:05 AM

3. We already lost the cyberwar with Russia and the economic

war with China. Neither Russia or China had to fire a shot!

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:35 AM

4. Quick. Dump another trillion dollars into it!

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:06 AM

5. As long as The Lying King is in office

We will , because he'll help them win against us. He hates America.

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:33 AM

6. No surprising. republicans & russians put a five-time draft-dodging liar in charge

In so doing the republicans have dramatically weakened America.

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:39 AM

7. ...

 

The White House should look to increase taxation and slash entitlements to drastically increase funding available for the military...

Who wrote this drivel? Military already receives 56 cents out of every tax dollar and has not won a war since 1945. Maybe somebody needs to rethink things.

p.s. I remember when American bragging rights were all about having the highest standard of living in the world. Now they about having the biggest economy and the best military--neither of which actually serve us well.

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Response to JonLP24 (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:56 AM

8. In a large war, the "industrial" component of MIC might collapse.

I don't think we can produce the steel, the ships, all the other war-stuff that we could produce in the '40s. China makes huge amounts of steel, as does Russia.

Our heavy industry could use some beefing-up. If only it can be done cleanly. Russia and China seem less concerned about environmental impact.

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