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Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:49 AM

Republicans get a dose of reality they refuse to take...

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In the highest mid-term voter turnout since 1966, the Democrats kicked the Republicans to the curb. Overall, they won by about 7 million more votes than Republicans.

Considering that Hillary only won the popular vote by 3 million votes, this was quite an achievement. And there were only about 110 million that voted in the midterms. The Presidential election drew about 15% more than that in the last election.

The difference in the 2020 election may be 10 million or more? That would be a wipe-out if that happened? Republicans are somewhere between a rock and a hard place.

But, by a reckoning of nature, the Democrats have been put into a position where they have to fight for our democracy. The demagogue and his followers must be defeated and thrown out of our Senate and House. It is nothing short of disgraceful how the Republicans have turned their backs on our country.

Unfortunately, they are still drinking the kool-aid and Democrats must watch vigilantly to forestall any unpredictable or illegal acts and to protect our Constitution.

The election of 2018 was only the first battle in this war. The election of 2020 will be the battle that determines which direction our country will take?

Democrats must remain together and strengthen their position for 2020, because the Cult of Trump is still in his camp. They worship the guy. Much like Jonestown worshiped Rev. Jim Jones. I cannot think of another more apt analogy.

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A relevant article:
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/08/665197690/a-boatload-of-ballots-midterm-voter-turnout-hit-50-year-high

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Reply Republicans get a dose of reality they refuse to take... (Original post)
kentuck Nov 2018 OP
malaise Nov 2018 #1
Kurt V. Nov 2018 #2
llmart Nov 2018 #3
Sunlei Nov 2018 #26
Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #4
calimary Nov 2018 #8
Sunlei Nov 2018 #27
shanny Nov 2018 #5
genxlib Nov 2018 #11
Ford_Prefect Nov 2018 #20
genxlib Nov 2018 #23
kentuck Nov 2018 #14
shanny Nov 2018 #15
czarjak Nov 2018 #28
2naSalit Nov 2018 #6
NBachers Nov 2018 #7
Duppers Nov 2018 #9
calimary Nov 2018 #10
marble falls Nov 2018 #12
FakeNoose Nov 2018 #19
marble falls Nov 2018 #21
Scubamatt Nov 2018 #22
TallMike Nov 2018 #13
Mister Ed Nov 2018 #16
LittleGirl Nov 2018 #17
catbyte Nov 2018 #18
Garrett78 Nov 2018 #24
gristy Nov 2018 #25
pwb Nov 2018 #29
KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2018 #30
Shoonra Nov 2018 #31
warmfeet Nov 2018 #32
Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2018 #33
blue-wave Nov 2018 #34
duforsure Nov 2018 #35

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:57 AM

1. Get thee to the greatest page

NOW!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:27 AM

2. K&R

truth

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:28 AM

3. Democrats need to be grooming more candidates to run in 2020.

in addition to finding the absolutely best candidate to take on whoever is residing in the White House in 2020 (unless it's Nancy, of course).

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Response to llmart (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:59 PM

26. We Ds are fortunite we have many great people who would be good presidents.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:28 AM

4. It's a cult. Jim Jones once said how he knew he had a true follower.

Jim Jones said he knew someone was in his control as a follower when they let him discipline their children. Think of how similar that is to followers letting a cult leader discipline or cage ANY children, and they say nothing or even support him.

If there was any doubt it's a cult, that doubt was vanquished when they supported the Trump administration caging children. They were no longer people in control of their own minds. Their support & love of Trump had taken over.

Trump knows it's a cult, too. As he said at a rally, his followers would support him even if he shot someone in the street.

The alt-right tried to say that Obama's supporters were like a cult But they never were. There was no supporting him, no matter what he did. His supporters DID criticize him at times. They would of course have never gone along with putting children in cages or taking them away from their parents under those conditions. Never. They respected him what the type of person he was and what he was trying to accomplish. That's a different thing from blindly following someone, even when he crosses the norms of decent behavior and goes against our sense of humane and decent treatment of people.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:52 AM

8. He already has caged children!

Jerk! Fucking willful-idiot JERK!

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:02 PM

27. That's an excellent point about cults & cult like behavior.

Jim Jones said he knew someone was in his control as a follower when they let him discipline their children

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:36 AM

5. ...

 

"...there were only about 110 million that voted in the midterms. The Presidential election drew about double that in the last election."


um, wot? 220 million people did not vote in the last presidential election.

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Response to shanny (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:59 AM

11. Yeah

That jumped out at me too.

Not even close. The real number was something like 137 million. What's 80 million voters among friends?

Even so, I still can't imagine why 27 million people could sit this one out.

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Response to genxlib (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:01 PM

20. A considerable number of them didn't sit out. They were de-registered,

or in several other ways illegally disenfranchised by Republican operatives at all levels of the voting process.
In some precincts, they were told to use provisional ballots which were subsequently challenged, uncounted due to bent election rules, or in some cases hidden or tossed out. Others were told that newly revised voting regulations summarily disqualified them even though many had voted in the same precincts quite correctly for decades. Some were told they were not now citizens due to the alleged lack of a street address, or that they did not have the exact same signature as one they had written years prior to the day.
Some had their votes deleted or altered by "faulty" voting equipment, or by "misinformed" election officials.
Some had their traditional voting sites removed or relocated too far away from the voting public (in one case moved inside a gated and guarded community, in another moved completely outside of town).
Which is to say nothing of direct intervention by Republican Governors, legislatures, senior election officials and the Republican President who threatened dire consequences for those who "didn't deserve to vote".
There were also those who were so effectively dis-informed and intimidated by Republican, Russian and Industrial propaganda that they were afraid to vote.
I consider that all of those above were not counted among voting participants.
These are but a few grains of salt to take with the meme that there are ever so many people who irresponsibly refused to participate. Yes, there are voters who chose not to exercise their franchise. I ask you to be a bit more careful when you lump them in with those who were systematically denied the right to choose.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:11 PM

23. I get your point

And will concede that there is a portion of that number attributed to the reasons you cite.

However, I would caution in return to not oversell that storyline.

The baseline measurement from 2016 included much of that suppression in it already. Not to mention the Russian driven narrative that "they all sucked" to keep people away.

I am a huge advocate for voting rights. Every single person that wants to vote should be able to. Every damn time. It should be the highest priority in new legislation coming out of this new House. I know there isn't much chance to get it passed but it should be created and put out there as a record of what we are for and what they are against.

But let's not kid ourselves. The sad fact is that tons of people choose not to vote.

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Response to shanny (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:03 AM

14. Corrected.

My addition was terrible this morning.

It may have been slightly more than 15% difference from the last presidential election.

But, it does not bode well for the Republicans, in my opinion.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:06 AM

15. We agree completely on that.

 

heh

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Response to shanny (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:40 PM

28. If only....

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:40 AM

6. K&R

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:52 AM

7. republicans are the distillation of the regressive forces who've plagued us throughout our history.

Evil incarnate, destroying the very planet we live on, remorseless and death-bound. Power-drunk; Sabotaging democracy and the United States of America itself. Traitors, betrayers, fascists; twisting & perverting the love of their so-called Savior as they march to their death-cult rendezvous with oblivion.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:53 AM

9. "Cult of Trump" to Jim Jones is a great analogy!!

"the Cult of Trump is still in his camp. They worship the guy. Much like Jonestown worshiped Rev. Jim Jones. I cannot think of another more apt analogy."


Yep, they're that sick.


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Response to Duppers (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:55 AM

10. Certainly is.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:59 AM

12. We can't let the knowledge that cheetolini is going to be voted out keep anyone from feeling ...

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safe enough to not vote. That's what got us President cheetolini to begin with.

This election is about getting the GOP as much out of local, state, federal government as possible: we're going to get the White House but we need the Senate and every other office that shows up on any ballot on Nov 3, 2020. We need to get potential voters from 20 to 30 out, too. They were missed this last Nov 6.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:46 AM

19. This is it! We should never be comfortable - even now

With a half-decent turnout in 2020 we can bury the GOP and put them away forever. But the other possibility is that people will think it's OK to stay home and sit on their hands, and let somebody else do the work.

We need everyone on board, we need all their votes. When we all work together we can achieve miracles.





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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:02 PM

21. In a lot of ways cheetolini is a distraction. Too bad he's also President. The total GOP ...

is the problem. President Pence is what they'd really like: he's almost one of them.

2020 is also redistricting and a chance at fixing gerrymandering. We have to turn out everyone.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:11 PM

22. Love it!!!!

A-1 messaging!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:01 AM

13. watched a doc

on Jones last night. I kept saying to my wife through out its duration, "My God, Its just like Trump..."
Uncanny.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:24 AM

16. "Democrats must remain together and strengthen their position"

Heed these words, my friends.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:28 AM

17. And we have to keep up the chorus

We have to make sure that 45's presidency is the worst thing that ever happened to us because that seems to be what motivated all of those voters to show up.
Well done!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 11:46 AM

18. I've been using this since early 2017. It's just as true now. Scary.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:23 PM

24. Winning the popular vote is basically a foregone conclusion at this point.

The electoral college, gerrymandering, targeted voter suppression and every state having 2 Senators are all things that keep Republicans in the running.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 12:34 PM

25. The highest midterm turnout since 1966

From the article: "That's the highest turnout for a midterm since 1966, when 49 percent of the population showed up to vote. "

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:55 PM

29. Please continue republicans.

With your usual strategy. It will be very good for us in 2020. Stick to your ways please.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 05:44 PM

30. DJ Trump cordially invites all his friends to join him....

for a huuuuge rally at Trumptown, Guyana to celebrate his family's pending indictments. Just look for the golden "T" at the entrance.

Free drinks will be provided, but Trumpy Bear does not drink.........

Dark humor for a Sunday.......

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:47 PM

31. Reality is not that bitter a dose for Republicans

Despite the Democratic takeover of the House, the Republicans are still fat and happy.

The Republicans still own the Senate, and by a slightly better margin than before. They get to confirm all the judges and all the important officials nominated by Trump. They can also shortcircuit any legislation coming from House Democrats (the House Democrats can do the same to proposals from Senate Republicans, so we've got the prospect of total gridlock). The Senate Republicans can also shortcircuit any impeachment effort.

The Republicans still own the Senate ... and for Trump it's enough.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:31 PM

32. Wipe them out, 2020.

I am totally on board.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:01 PM

33. Consider that '66 was a referendum on 'Nam (which was becoming decreasingly popular)

The threat Trump posed prior to election day was at least = or > the threat posed to our nation by Joe McCarthy. The situation, while not great, is an improvement. Trump cannot dictate entirely unopposed.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 10:06 PM

34. Yes! We must fight for our democracy!!!

"But, by a reckoning of nature, the Democrats have been put into a position where they have to fight for our democracy."

The war and the battles for democracy have been on-going for hundreds of years. We should NEVER let our guard down.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:17 AM

35. If they continue doing the same thing , protecting trump , and doing nothing ,

And he keeps tweeting and talking , their future is doomed for all republican nazi's in this country.

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