What do you call 36 sealed indictments?

[shockey80]

A good start. It has been reported there are 36 sealed indictments. No one knows if they are from Mueller, but the chances are very good they are.

I have said from the beginning this investigation is bigger than Watergate and it will shock the American people. This is and has been a conspiracy, espionage investigation. They are looking for traitors. If you go along with an attack on America that is the definition of a traitor.

Trump surrounded himself with scores of people who are corrupt and liars. Many of the people Mueller talked too will at the very least be charged with perjury . Liars can't help themselves.

We may be getting an early Christmas present from Mueller.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. "It has been reported there are 36 sealed indictments."

Who has reported that? How reliable is the source?

And let's not forget Fitzmas, which as we all know took down the George W. Bush administration.

Oh, wait, that never happened.

[Sneederbunk]

5. +1

[NewJeffCT]

37. There may be 36 sealed indictments

but, we have no idea if they're related to the Trump/Russia Treason Conspiracy or something else entirely...

[3Hotdogs]

40. Wasn't Fitzmas fucked because the Dem. Congress gave immunity to witnesses?

Then, Fitz couldn't extort them?

[ProfessorGAC]

42. Extort?

That seems a wise word choice, to you?

[3Hotdogs]

44. Yes. In this case, we agree with the intended outcome. We all hated Bush/Cheney.

But prosecutors abuse the judicial system when they are prosecuting a crime. Then the arraignment is stacked with multiple minor violations. You agree to plea to 10 of the offenses and we will drop the other 60.

Don't testify against ..... and we will drop 15 of the charges. Yes, its extortion.

[ProfessorGAC]

45. The Legal Definition of Extortion

"The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right. Under the Common Law, extortion is a misdemeanor consisting of an unlawful taking of money by a government officer."


You sure?

[3Hotdogs]

47. No longer.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. It's A Cite From The Legal Dictionary

I'll go by what they say.

[LanternWaste]

49. I doubt there's much of a Fitzmas analogy to be made.

"And let's not forget Fitzmas..."

As Mueller has already indicted or gotten guilty pleas from 32 people and three companies — that we know of, composed of four former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer, I doubt there's much of a Fitzmas analogy to be made.

Six of these people (including now all four former Trump aides) have pleaded guilty.

No need to wait, that already happened.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

50. Yes, I know about those things,

but it does not appear that any substantive changes have occurred. Trump is still appointing truly awful people to the judiciary. Who keep on being confirmed with the help of Democrats, I might add. Clean air, clean water, safe food regulations are steadily being rolled back. The drumbeat of how we cannot afford to keep Medicare or Social Security keeps beating louder.

I look at all these things and I'm terribly discouraged.

[MineralMan]

2. Reported by whom? Link, please.

[writes3000]

4. From ABC News: "There are dozens of sealed criminal indictments on the DC docket...."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dozens-sealed-criminal-indictments-dc-docket-mueller/story?id=59249030

[groundloop]

19. OMG - someone who won't blindly accept statements and actually seeks out truth and facts !!!!!

If only the majority of the American electorate would ask a few simple questions like this.

[ananda]

3. Muellermas!

nt

[shockey80]

6. MSNBC has reported it.

[Racerdog1]

7. Beginning of the end.

Sooner the better.

[malaise]

8. Yep n/t

[FBaggins]

9. Speculative fiction?

[lindysalsagal]

10. The targets know they're indicted, right?

[enid602]

11. agents

"Trump surrounded himself with scores of people who are corrupt and liars. Many of the people Mueller talked too will at the very least be charged with perjury . Liars can't help themselves."


Remember, the Russians have been cultivating agents for decades.

[justhanginon]

13. Yes, Trump has seemingly made a requirement on job resumes

that you can show some degree of hidden corruption. Unfortunately for them, these things usually always come out. There must be a lot of deservedly very nervous people in the administration right now.

[FakeNoose]

17. Cheeto only wants to hire people just like himself

... in other words, greedy, venal, corrupt liars. Every one!

I think that's his version of kompromat, and you can bet that Cheeto knows all about kompromat too. He's been on Putin's list for at least 20 years.

[Blue_true]

20. I like Kellyanne's husband's description.

"A shitshow in a dumpster fire". I know the asshole is evil, but that description was good.

[Nasruddin]

31. They have to be "made" men

That is they have to have made their bones somehow, somewhere

[mastermind]

12. sounds like RICO. nt

[calimary]

14. Hope.

[Hoyt]

15. Hoping, but this has happened before and nothing happened to trump. Lots of crooks out there.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. QAnon reports there are over 50,000 sealed indictments!

Q sheep say "You got me at '50,000 indictments'" and then they stop listening. They think those are ALL against HRC & Obama allies.

That's 50,000 over all of the USA.
That's including many other types of court documents.

36 from Mueller is believable, though I'm sure the actual figure is different because Mueller's team hardly leaks at all.

[Julian Englis]

18. There may also be sealed indictments in the SDNy and other districts

Let’s hope there are. The more sealed indictment in additional districts related to Mueller’s investigation and other investigations, the better the odds are of justice being achieved despite tRump’s ongoing acts of obstruction.

[marble falls]

21. Dumpster-fire at the White House.

[DrDan]

22. a good start

[sandensea]

23. The Trump Administration?

[Mr. Ected]

24. The tip of the iceberg

The question is, how many of these will remain sealed and for how long? The American people deserve to know. Every little minute stinking bit of it. Nothing is too political for our consumption. If there are 36 sealed indictments against Republicans and Republicans alone, then so be it. They are a criminal syndicate; the DNC is not. We may have individuals scofflaws; their criminality is endemic.

We can handle this, Mr. Mueller. Tell us the truth. Let us root out all evil from our government. It's not a witch hunt if the facts point toward a crime or crimes having been committed. We need the truth here; not some watered-down "everyone is guilty of something" conclusion. This isn't a CNN round panel. The bad guys can all wear red, especially if the RNC was involved.

Tell. Us. The. Truth. Or else we'll never be able to fix this mess....and the deniers will be able to continue to deny.

[DesertRat]

25. Unusual. nt

[shanny]

26. "36 sealed indictments" That's it.

But do you know what I would consider surprising? If Mueller plumbed and exposed the depths of not only the tRump campaign/administration, but also of the global big business money-laundering tax-evading SOP. That would be surprising.

[Doodley]

27. If so, expect America to declare war on another nation to create the mother of all distractions.

[quakerboy]

28. Call me when anything actually happens

Sealed indictments means NOTHING.

Trump is POTUS, and SCOTUS has his back.

The only thing that has even a ghost of a chance of changing the situation is the presentation of impeachable offenses with irrefutable evidence, all put into the public domain and causing such a reaction among the american population that it forces not only hesitant Democrats in the house to take action as serious as Impeachment, but also at a level that would force the corrupt Republicans of the Senate to take action.

Till we have that.. Indictments dont mean a thing. Especially sealed indictments. From an unknown source. Via an unknowns source.

[Locrian]

38. "all put into the public domain and causing such a reaction among the american population "

and THAT is key. Anything else and I fear a "deal" or some kind of coverup because the "truth is too disruptive"

[quakerboy]

54. Exactly

[watoos]

46. Are you serious?

An indictment means a grand jury found cause for criminal charges to go to jury trial. Once the indictments are sealed the new acting AG stooge can't stop them.

[quakerboy]

53. Deadly serious

Whats the end game here? Whats the play that makes this make any difference at all?

[YessirAtsaFact]

29. If this is legit and they are related to the Mueller investigation

I'd call them Mueller telling the story of Trump/Russia via indictments, so that whatever happens to his report, the bombshell items can't be hidden from the public.

I'd call them leads for the Democrats to pursue in their investigations in the House come January.

[riverwalker]

36. A friend said the same thing

The indictments will tell the story, not the final report.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. Some of them could be Mueller's; some (or all) could be for other cases.

We have no way of knowing until they are unsealed. Sealed indictments aren't all that uncommon so I'm not assuming anything about these.

[chwaliszewski]

32. Muelltide season is upon us!

[yonder]

33. "What do you call 36 sealed indictments"?

If accurate, Christmas.

[olegramps]

34. We have no idea what the indictments contain.

They may be have been issued by Mueller or other prosecutors with no connection to the Mueller investigation. This is what I read in the referenced article.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

35. It's a nice thought, but don't get your hopes too high on this

If these are from Mueller, lot of these indictments are likely revolving around relatively minor charges - lying to the FBI being chief among them.

Trump won't be convicted by the Senate. That does not mean that impeachment should not be pursued if warranted, but he will still hold office; still get to choose who is AG, and will still have the power of pardon. He won't hesitate to pardon Junior.

I'm actually more interested in the SDNY work than Mueller's work. I think the odds are really high that many of the Trumpsters can be bagged on good old fashioned money laundering and tax evasion charges.

[maxrandb]

39. The Special Counsel in "RAKING UP" the criminals!

[hexola]

41. As of today - it's 36 days to Christmas - ok everybody - key of C...

"On the first day of Christmas - Mueller gave to We...."

[certainot]

43. make it so!

[Heartstrings]

51. All I want for Christmas are some Mueller indictments!

Preferably with the name trump on them!

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

52. I used to get excited when I heard stuff like that. Not so much anymore.

We hear some version of this about every two weeks, and all it reminds me of is that....its been two more weeks. And nothings happened, and he spent more money and rewarded himself w golf and charging us. I'm tired of the mystery meat indictment shit. If he gets charged tomorrow ill apologize. He wont. Hes ruined looking at any tv anywhere.

[brettdale]

55. What is the Source?

36 sealed indictments sounds juicy.

But is the source...

A: Louise Mensch
B: Claude Taylor
C: Brian Krassenstein
D: Tom Arnold
E: A Blogger
F: A website that is made up to look like a news site, but is just a fancy website.
G: Rawstory


If the source is none of the above, then Im hopeful.