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Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:45 PM

Compare and Contrast Trump with GWB

This is a follow up to an earlier post comparing Trump with Nixon

- off the top of my head - neither was elected by the American people. GWB killed lot more people - asleep at the wheel for 9/11 then Afganistan & Iraq wars. Presided over the Katrina disaster & the 2007 financial crash. In bed with the Saudis. Lined the pockets of Halliburton & Blackwater. Linguistically challenged.

How many lives, how many families were broken by his wars and the Great Recession?

On the other hand, may have been fooled by Putin but did not sell us out. Did not conduct a frontal assault on the press.

One thing in common - both lobbied hard for Kavanaugh

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:49 PM

1. GWB was far worse, just because of all of the people that died or suffered because of him

Just the other day a Marine OD'd at my job. Imagine what this guy went through in the mid-2000's. This is all on Bush. I hate him.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 01:52 PM

2. GWB was lazy and let Dick Cheney do most of the plotting and scheming.

I don't think he was affirmatively evil, just passively so. Trump is affirmatively evil. He likes being bad. W had pets. Trump doesn't even like animals. W wasn't a sexual predator and he seems to care for his wife and children; Trump, not so much, except for Ivanka, and his fondness for her seems skeevy. W was often incoherent but since he retired he at least seems to know when to shut up. Trump never shuts up. I'm not trying to rehabilitate W - he was a terrible president - but I don't think he ever plumbed the depths of narcissism and depravity like Trump does. W did enormous damage because of the Iraq war, but I have no doubt that Trump is capable of more and worse if he were to serve two terms.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:00 PM

3. "I have no doubt that Trump is capable of more and worse"

Yeah. How low can he go? Ask me next week.

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:03 PM

4. Bush was misguided but he wasn't evil or mean.

Trump is the type of guy who would get two homeless men to fight with a promise of fifty dollars to the victor and then not pay him.

He might be the first truly evil man to occupy the office.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:08 PM

5. You know I can't get it through my head that the man is really evil.

Intellectually, I know he is. Heís a naked sadist. I felt worse about Dick Cheney swimming in death.

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Response to crazytown (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:11 PM

6. He is more evil than Cheney.

Cheney's evil was attached to a goal. That's why I'm harder on Stalin than Mao. The former was gratuitously evil. Mao's evil was attached to a goal.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:18 PM

7. 'Gratuitiously evil'. -Evil for the fun of it

The shoe fits yes. I know itís real - I just havenít met any of them (who were prepared to reveal themselves).

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:23 PM

8. "George Bush was a disaster"...

But get back to Bush policies on steroids, and promote his judicial picks?

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Response to crazytown (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2018, 02:49 PM

9. Michelle Obama genuinely likes GWB but I think she despises Trump and maybe Melenia too.

Hillary and Bill also seem to be chums of George and Laura Bush.


"One of the most touching truths in modern political history is that after they left office, the Bushes and Clintons developed a genuine friendship and mutual respect that led to their working together on matters that would make the world a better place, such as helping those around the world who had been ravaged by national disasters."

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/384567-when-george-w-bush-stood-with-hillary-clinton

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