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sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 03:24 PM Nov 2018

Democrats Want to Change a 181-Year-Old Rule to Allow Religious Headwear in the House

As they prepare to welcome two newly-elected Muslim women into the 116th Congress, Democrats have proposed a clarification to a 181-year-old rule banning representatives from wearing hats on the House floor.

If approved, the new rules would allow lawmakers to wear religious headwear, like hijabs and kippahs, once Democrats take control of the chamber in January.

Representative-elect Ilhan Omar, one of the first two Muslim women to serve in Congress, wears a headscarf. She was born in Somalia and came to the United States as a refugee.




The proposed rule was co-authored by current House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, ranking Democrat on the Rules Committee Rep. Jim McGovern and Omar. It comes as part of the Democrats’ new House rules proposal package. The drafted changes promise to “ensure religious expression,” by “clarify[ing] in the rules that religious headwear is permitted to be worn in the House chamber.”



More:http://time.com/5458281/democrats-proposed-rule-allow-religious-headwear-house/

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Democrats Want to Change a 181-Year-Old Rule to Allow Religious Headwear in the House (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2018 OP
Incredible this is a thing, and it's just a turban. JHan Nov 2018 #1
Thanks, JHan. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #2
a scarf is not a hat and women have always been allowed to wear hats indoors. demigoddess Nov 2018 #3
And with that, these idiots heads will explode: AZ8theist Nov 2018 #4
Yep. That they will! sheshe2 Nov 2018 #5
No, cause now they get to wear their cult-hats in the chamber lol...Wins for everyone! Volaris Nov 2018 #19
Decades ago they made NYC Congresswoman Bella Abzug take off her trademark hat and.... George II Nov 2018 #6
Like Rand Paul? sheshe2 Nov 2018 #8
Bazinga! George II Nov 2018 #9
That thing on his head is frightening. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #11
I think its a snap-on 912gdm Nov 2018 #28
It's an endangered species. Leave it alone. Yavin4 Nov 2018 #36
OMG sheshe2 Nov 2018 #37
Hey she. SixString Nov 2018 #38
181 years ago? Must have been anti-Jewish for then. keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #7
Most likely. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #10
I looked it up and it wasn't rpannier Nov 2018 #33
Interesting... link? keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #34
Here's one of them rpannier Nov 2018 #35
Thanks.... interesting term - 'Father of the House' keithbvadu2 Nov 2018 #40
I expect to see a few red MAGA hats in the chamber. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #12
Make it religous only Fatemah2774 Nov 2018 #13
To Republicans, the two are indistinguishable. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #14
"Congress shall make no law..." Iggo Nov 2018 #31
So if a nun who wears a habit and head cover were elected to Congress??? TNNurse Nov 2018 #15
the law would be for things like that JI7 Nov 2018 #17
But not now. TNNurse Nov 2018 #25
"I told you Sharia Law was comin' Sue Ellen! Git me my AR-15, woman!" sandensea Nov 2018 #16
Please Congress, join us in the 21st Century. LakeArenal Nov 2018 #18
why grant privege to the religionists. allow all headwear. nt msongs Nov 2018 #20
Why is this a thing? It is not a burka. It is a head scarf. Equinox Moon Nov 2018 #22
Yarmulkes are not allowed either (n/t) leftynyc Nov 2018 #41
As discussed earlier Fatemah2774 Nov 2018 #23
Are yarmulkes allowed? not_the_one Nov 2018 #21
No. Igel Nov 2018 #24
The headline states that it has to do with religious head wear. sheshe2 Nov 2018 #27
I agree Raine Nov 2018 #39
here come the MAGA hats. nt MadDAsHell Nov 2018 #26
Sheesh. They need to concentrate on important stuff, not headwear. Red Raider 85 Nov 2018 #29
This IS Important Stuff. MineralMan Nov 2018 #30
What other monumentous legislation do you think they should have come up with... Iggo Nov 2018 #32
Democratic House Rules Proposal sl8 Nov 2018 #42
OK, what about Pastafarianism? HAB911 Nov 2018 #43

George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Decades ago they made NYC Congresswoman Bella Abzug take off her trademark hat and....
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 04:41 PM
Nov 2018

...when first elected they made Frederica Wilson remove hers, too.

Do they make men take off their cheap-ass toupees? NO!!!

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
36. It's an endangered species. Leave it alone.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 02:23 AM
Nov 2018

Trump wears one as well. They're trying to get them to mate and re-populate the species.

SixString

(1,057 posts)
38. Hey she.
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 05:23 AM
Nov 2018

Either post your evidence to back up this innuendo or post your apology.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1034&pid=10197

sheshe2 (51,779 posts)
14. I love googling the urban dictionary.


Telling.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
33. I looked it up and it wasn't
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:09 PM
Nov 2018

The origins of congress wearing hats indoors dated to the British Parliament, which started wearing hats to show their independence as a body from the king.
The dispute came as one side wanted hats removed because people removed their hats when they came indoors and hats were usually removed indoors when business was being conducted. The side that wanted hats argued that their heritage came from Parliament -- which was mocked as the U.S. had no monarchy, while some argued there was no place to put their hats (the cloak room did not exist at the time).

It was a fairly heated dispute for years. The House finally purchased desks that had shelves for papers and documents and a shelf for members to store their hats

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
40. Thanks.... interesting term - 'Father of the House'
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 07:30 AM
Nov 2018

Then at the end, wearing a hat as a symbol of protest.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
18. Please Congress, join us in the 21st Century.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 05:29 PM
Nov 2018

We live here. No one cares about anybody’s hat.

Let them wear MAGA. Then they can’t hide when the poopgibon hits the fan...

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
22. Why is this a thing? It is not a burka. It is a head scarf.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:08 PM
Nov 2018

Jewish people wear the yamaka and their is no rule for that.

Fatemah2774

(245 posts)
23. As discussed earlier
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:29 PM
Nov 2018

What if someone wore a political (MAGA) hat...so should be for religious purposes and not political grandstanding.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
21. Are yarmulkes allowed?
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 06:06 PM
Nov 2018

If so.....

Personally I would prefer NO religious symbols. AT. ALL.

But we atheists try to make allowances for personal expressions, no matter how misguided.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
24. No.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 07:02 PM
Nov 2018

No kippahs. No hijabs. No top hats or cowboy hats. No Carmen Miranda fruit bowls. No Indian headdresses.

Toupes and wigs are in a different category. But like tables and chairs, if you try hard you can blur what's usually a pretty obvious difference.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
39. I agree
Mon Nov 19, 2018, 06:10 AM
Nov 2018

I would prefer NO religious symbols, I don't believe religion should be mixed in with politics ... total separation of church (any church) and state.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
30. This IS Important Stuff.
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 08:50 PM
Nov 2018

She chooses to adopt a head covering because of her religious beliefs. She was elected by tho voters in Minnesota, and will be a member of the House. A stupid patriarchal rule will be changed because of her. It is a far more important thing than you realize.

Iggo

(47,549 posts)
32. What other monumentous legislation do you think they should have come up with...
Sun Nov 18, 2018, 09:06 PM
Nov 2018

...in the two seconds it took to come up with, "Hey! Let's wear hats!"

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