HS Teacher/Coach Accidentally Shoots, Kills Wife While Cleaning Gun In NY

[workinclasszero]

Joe Lombardi 11/18/2018

A high school science teacher and coach accidentally shot and killed his 34-year-old wife while allegedly cleaning his gun in upstate New York, state police said.

Ashley Rosenbrock was pronounced dead at Saratoga Hospital late Thursday night.

Eric Rosenbrock, her husband, was "performing maintenance" on his legally owned handgun when it went off," at around 10:30 p.m., state police said.

Eric Rosenbrock, 35, is a seventh-grade teacher and boys junior varsity soccer coach in the Lake George School District.

https://norwalk.dailyvoice.com/police-fire/hs-teachercoach-accidentally-shoots-kills-wife-while-cleaning-gun-in-ny/744731/

[SidDithers]

1. A law-abiding member of America's well-armed militia...

until he wasn’t.

Sid

[Aristus]

2. "Accidentally went off while cleaning" is the NRA dodge to kill your spouse, and do time

only for manslaughter instead of 1st-degree murder.

[workinclasszero]

3. Seems like a real convenient excuse huh?

But according to the story, he is off the hook.

[Aristus]

4. Jesus.

Kill your wife with a knife, a garrotte, or by holding her under in the bathtub: go to the pokey forever.

Kill her with a gun: "You're free to go, sir."

[johnp3907]

5. "accidentally"

Fixed.

[packman]

6. Jesus, I don't know much about guns - but,

seems like a bit of common sense to unload it before cleaning.

[dubyadiprecession]

29. And maybe, just maybe not point the gun at your...

Spouse while cleaning it.

[Sneederbunk]

34. That's the problem. Many gun owners lack common sense.

[raccoon]

7. Betcha he has a girlfriend. And if it WAS an accident, which I dont believe, the shot JUSt HAPPENED

to be fatal?

Damn, LE in this case really dropped the ball. Wonder if the wife's relatives could bring a civil suit?

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Did she graduate yet?

[malaise]

36. I"'d like half of you're bet

Way too convenient

[jberryhill]

8. I accidentally robbed a gas station with one

[ProfessorGAC]

15. Pffft!

That happens all the time!

[jberryhill]

24. I was trying to break a one hundred dollar bill, see

I reached into my pocket for the Franklin and accidentally grabbed my gun and pulled it out as I was asking the clerk, "How much money do you have in the cash register?"

Huge misunderstanding.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. LOL!

Good one!

[VMA131Marine]

9. This *may* have been an unintentional shooting ...

but it sure wasn't an accident. What kind of idiot works on a weapon without first making sure, and second, making sure again, that it's not loaded. He absolutely should be charged.

[comradebillyboy]

10. Nobody with a lick of common sense tries to clean a loaded gun.

I think the guy just up and murdered his wife. Guns don't just go off all by themselves.

[TheBlackAdder]

12. If you look at the omnibearing direction the bullet could have been fired, a vital hit is remote.

[workinclasszero]

22. I have no way of knowing but I bet it was a semi auto handgun

and a round was still in the chamber.

[comradebillyboy]

46. I've got a couple of semi automatic pistols and

I always disassemble them before I try to clean.

[Kaleva]

13. He might have had a semi-auto, removed the mag but forgot about the round in the chamber

Just guessing though.

Follow just one of the basic safety rules and this could have been prevented.

ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. This is the primary rule of gun safety.

ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.

[Caliman73]

16. Yeah...but

I can't imagine how that would happen anyway if he was actually cleaning the firearm and not just acting stupid with it. To properly clean a semi-auto you have to at least partially strip it down. You taken the slide and barrel off. Take the barrel out of the slide, then clean and lube.

I suppose anything is possible but it just seems unlikely.

[Kaleva]

18. Article doesn't say at what point he was "performing maintenance" on the gun.

He could have just started by removing the mag. Assuming it was a semi-auto.

[Caliman73]

20. True

But then as it is said, he is a complete idiot. No business putting your finger anywhere near the trigger regardless. Unless you plan to shoot, your finger goes nowhere near the trigger.

[Kaleva]

31. A 16 y/o was shot and killed by a 13 y/o who was laoding a rifle.

Happened a few days ago not far from where I live.

Adherence to basic safety rules would prevent many of these tragedies from happening.

[workinclasszero]

23. Yup

Because a whole lot of people think if you pop out the magazine, the gun must be unloaded.

[Runningdawg]

30. All of these are EXCELLENT points

but for this to have happened we know that one or more of these safety protocols were missed. What makes people get sloppy? Alcohol. I have known 2 people "accidently" shot while someone near them was cleaning a weapon. Both times, the person cleaning the gun was drunk. Unless you need that weapon URGENTLY - cleaning can wait until you are sober, well rested and wide awake.

[Kaleva]

35. I do my cleaning down in the basement alone. The live ammo is locked away in a safe in the b/r.

When I'm done cleaning, I go upstairs to the b/r, unlock the safe, load the revolver and then lock the revolver in the safe. I'm the only one that knows the combo and only me and my son-in-law knows where the bypass key is hidden in the basement.

[maxsolomon]

14. Don't assume it was murder.

Remember, many gun owners are deeply stupid & irresponsible. It's the "unorganized" militia for a reason.

[rgbecker]

17. NRA has the Gun-nuts so wound up about the 2nd and all the GOP talking points....

They forgot to continue talking about gun safety.

I think "always check to see if the gun is loaded" was the first thing listed in the instructions on my first Daisy BB gun in 1957.

[SidDithers]

19. Sorry, you don't get to have "accidents" with guns...

You're either safe, or negligent.

If you don't want to accept that responsibility, then don't own a gun.

Hope he goes to jail.

Sid

[smirkymonkey]

21. Accidentally? The jury is out on this one.

I'm not buying it.

[MineralMan]

25. Not accidentally. Stupidly or intentionally.

Which one it is, I don't know. First step in cleaning or servicing a firearm is to clear the piece of all ammo. Magazine removed. Check the chamber. I mean, how hard is that? Last step is to reinsert the magazine. Personally, I would never chamber a round until I needed to use the weapon. I don't believe in having chambered rounds in pistols, especially, unless I'm at the range or need to use the thing.

Eric Rosenbrock is either an idiot, inexperienced, or a murderer.

[Kaleva]

37. If I had a semi-auto, I wouldn't chamber a round either till I intended to shoot.

If I was out in public, I wouldn't draw my gun unless I intended to shoot.

[MineralMan]

40. Yup. My rule for semi-auto pistols is

Empty chamber until I know I'm going to shoot at something.

[LanternWaste]

41. It fits well within the parameters of the word 'accident'

Which does not deny idiocy or inexperience...

Words do not often lend themselves to "I don't believe..."

[MineralMan]

43. Firearms "accidents" are either negligence or malicious.

Negligence can come from inexperience or lack of knowledge, as well as from carelessness, intoxication, or a number of other things. None of those are accidental. Idiots and untrained people should not own firearms. Period. Careless people and drunks should not own them, either.

There are no firearms "accidents." A properly designed and maintained fire arm does not discharge unless someone pulls the trigger and the firearm has a round in the chamber and the action is a state where pulling the trigger discharges the weapon. Firearms do NOT "go off" by "accident." They go off when someone loads them, points them at something and pulls the trigger. Anyone who shoots a person who is not attacking them needs some prison time and needs to never again be allowed to possess a firearm. Period.

Maliciousness comes from being malicious, and is no accident at all.

Try arguing about firearms accidents again, after you refute what I just wrote. If you're trying to "get my goat," you succeeded. Bravo! If you think I know nothing about firearms, then you're very much mistaken.

[BamaRefugee]

26. MOAR GUNS MEANS MOAR SAFETY!

[HopeAgain]

27. One thing I don't have to worry about

I will not have to worry about dealing with shooting someone either accidentally or on purpose because I have no desire to own a gun. I'm more than comfortable with that.

[Kaleva]

38. For many, if not most, people, that is the best option.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. Yeah, that's like an 18+ on critical hits and misses.

Maybe even a straight 20 for that to happen.

[Volaris]

39. Guns make it possible to get a bonus to your damage die,

Because it wrecks your intelligence stat. If he had been cleaning his slingshot, his wife would still be alive (although, I suspect that she's not is rather the point).

[USALiberal]

33. Idiot, lock him up! Nt

[JCMach1]

42. Funny how the SO is always conveniently lined-up with the barrel...

[elocs]

44. When I was a sophomore in high school

I would walk the mile to school with a fellow classmate and we had brothers the same age at the same grade school. One day he was cleaning his rifle and it went off and killed his brother.
He came back to school 3 days later and I never knew what to say to him about it.
We're both old men now but I wonder if he continued to use his guns all of the ensuing decades and if he still thinks of his brother a lot.

[Crunchy Frog]

45. Well we definitely want him to be packing heat in the classroom.