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rainy

(6,088 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 08:26 AM Nov 2018

Who's Really Leading the Democratic Rebellion Against Pelosi? Hint, its not the left. read on...

"It’s impossible to understand the Democratic rebellion against Nancy Pelosi without understanding the way power works in the House of Representatives. To understand the self-serving men behind this rebellion, heed the words of the late screenwriter William Goldman: Follow the money.

There is discontent with Pelosi’s ideology on the left, and that’s understandable. But ideology is not driving this campaign, and this is no populist rebellion. In fact, its leaders have no discernible ideology at all.

That’s how corporate money rolls in the Democratic Party. It lays low, hides its true colors, and pretends it only wants to “get things done.”

The anti-Pelosi insurgency is not a movement. It’s a cabal, ..."

From the following article:


https://www.truthdig.com/articles/whos-really-leading-the-democratic-rebellion-against-pelosi/

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Who's Really Leading the Democratic Rebellion Against Pelosi? Hint, its not the left. read on... (Original Post) rainy Nov 2018 OP
Hashtag five white guys UpInArms Nov 2018 #1
I can agree with some of this. Moulton raised 2.1 mil via his Serve America PAC and gave 160K seaglass Nov 2018 #2
If DownriverDem Nov 2018 #5
It's not just that. We could end up with a repug speaker. brush Nov 2018 #7
Oh, I doubt they care... it's all a very Susan Sarandonesque way to "send a message"... NurseJackie Nov 2018 #9
Yes, yes. And FSS too. brush Nov 2018 #14
Think about this for one minute. watoos Nov 2018 #3
This explains a lot PatSeg Nov 2018 #4
Same here. I call it sabotage. TryLogic Nov 2018 #11
As if we don't have enough PatSeg Nov 2018 #12
Bingo. shanny Nov 2018 #6
Perfect definition of Moulton Perseus Nov 2018 #8
Yes, a self-serving politician PatSeg Nov 2018 #13
Thanks, great info. kacekwl Nov 2018 #10
When people say "Both parties are the same"... THIS is what they mean imo... BadGimp Nov 2018 #15
Yes, but they have a D after their name, so these people are AOK SaintLouisBlues Nov 2018 #16
Kick for driving the point home UTUSN Nov 2018 #17
'nother Kick UTUSN Nov 2018 #18
Kick dalton99a Nov 2018 #19

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
1. Hashtag five white guys
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:07 AM
Nov 2018

Thanks for sharing .... makes my blood boil

Moulton has been well-rewarded for his ideological plasticity. During his short political career, Moulton has received a total of $1,723,870 from the investor class that comprises the so-called “FIRE” sector—financial, insurance, and real estate. He has also received more than $160,000 from Pharma. (These figures come from Open Secrets.)

Moulton isn’t the only member of the five-man anti-Pelosi band, of course. The rhythm section is composed of Colorado’s Ed Perlmutter, Oregon’s Kurt Schrader, and Bill Foster of Illinois. The three men have received $4,082,803, $987,050, and $2,747,969 respectively from the FIRE sector. Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio, who mounted a longshot challenge to Pelosi in 2016, is the band’s other leader—the Keith Richards, if you will, to Moulton’s would-be Jagger.

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
2. I can agree with some of this. Moulton raised 2.1 mil via his Serve America PAC and gave 160K
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:09 AM
Nov 2018

to House candidates. It appears he got his anti-Pelosi commitments from them for cheap.

Yeah, I think the plan is to slot Steny Hoyer in - some fresh face - a year older than Pelosi!

And btw, anti-choice Stephen Lynch-MA signed this letter, he should not be getting off scot-free.

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
5. If
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 10:11 AM
Nov 2018

Nancy Pelosi is not the Speaker of the House, we are screwed. We are talking about 2 years with a woman who knows how to play the game and can take it to trump. How many months with a new Speaker need to get up to speed?
I'm really pissed off about this.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Oh, I doubt they care... it's all a very Susan Sarandonesque way to "send a message"...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 11:01 AM
Nov 2018

Oh, I doubt they care... it's all a very Susan Sarandonesque way to "send a message" of vanity and privilege and revenge... settling old-scores, etc. Sadly, that message is one that perpetuates distrust, resentment and division. It only serves to WEAKEN our party. A divided and weakened Democratic party ONLY benefits the GOP (and by extension, it also benefits Russia.)

And, uh... while I'm on the subject... FUCK SUSAN SARANDON!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. Think about this for one minute.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 09:22 AM
Nov 2018

Let's look at the rebels in the Republican House, the Tea Party or as they are now called the Freedumb caucus.
What have these radicals accomplished in the Republican House? They accomplished tying the hands of John Boehner and Paul Ryan. Republicans had the majority but because of these right wing radicals no Bills got passed. The repeal of Obamacare failed what, 60 times? We should actually thank the Freedumb caucus for tying up right wing legislation.

I just have a simple question, is this what we want in the Democratic House? Do we really want to do what Republicans decided to do the day after Barack Obama was elected president, make everything political, or do we want to try make American's lives better through legislation?

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
12. As if we don't have enough
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 12:28 PM
Nov 2018

challenges dealing with republicans and Trump. Now we have fellow Democrats undermining our future success.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
6. Bingo.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 10:31 AM
Nov 2018

I'm on the left and I would prefer the Speaker be more progressive...but none of the people challenging Pelosi are that.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
8. Perfect definition of Moulton
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 10:57 AM
Nov 2018

"This ersatz rebellion’s most visible leader is Massachusetts Rep. Seth Moulton, a custom-crafted biography in a suit who appears to hold no core beliefs."

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
13. Yes, a self-serving politician
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 12:34 PM
Nov 2018

with little or no loyalty to his party or constituents. This was also the impression I got of Tim Ryan back in 2016 when he tried to replace Pelosi as Minority Leader.

BadGimp

(4,012 posts)
15. When people say "Both parties are the same"... THIS is what they mean imo...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 01:51 PM
Nov 2018

The Democratic Party has been infiltrated by the very same forces that long ago took over the GOP. It's only a difference of degree as to the extent of the infiltration imo.

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