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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 02:59 PM Nov 2018

You know how Republicans who didn't support Trump got treated by the "Republican base"?

A backlash is building against Democrats in the House who refuse to stand by Pelosi. It won't burn all of them, but if the activist base turns against you, mere seniority and incumbency won't save you in a primary.

Whether you feel a backlash is fair or not, wise or not, doesn't change this fact. It is growing.

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HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
1. Everything I am seeing says it is not the "activists"
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 03:04 PM
Nov 2018

but rather the establishment, big money Dems who are attacking Nancy. Those who are barely Democrats and not idealogical.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
3. No it is not "activists" attacking Nancy
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nov 2018

But a lot of activists are becoming increasingly upset at those who are.

hlthe2b

(102,068 posts)
2. I think the majority are wising up to the fact this is a 5-Male ConservaDEM led effort...
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 03:06 PM
Nov 2018

and beyond how they feel about Pelosi, the very overt attempt to move the party rightward against the majority (and especially in direct contrast to the women and progressives who were largely responsible for the midterm successes) is a direct affront. Likewise, many see this as a real slap in the face to women or overtly misogynistic at its core.

So, yes... there will be a backlash if they continue as they are. I will gladly aid the cause from my end.

 

Bfd

(1,406 posts)
4. Ya, we all remember what Palin & the KOCH funded Tea Party did to the Republican Party.
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 03:13 PM
Nov 2018

I'll fight to the death to keep our Democratic Party from being smeared with propaganda by another billionaire assisted threat to our Democracy.

So far its looking & acting like a duck..so no thanks.
Why the sudden media campaign against the strongest links in the Democratic Party chain.
Why the sudden chanting of removing the strongest force we have against the threat of fascist Trump?

Expect a push back, because the answer is a glaring one
We see who they are.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
6. Activists standing up for the right thing is way different than trump supporters accepting the wrong
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:02 PM
Nov 2018

Activists standing up for the right thing is way different than trump supporters accepting the wrong thing.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
8. Of course it is
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:06 PM
Nov 2018

I am merely repeating an ancient truth. Actions have consequences, and political actions have political consequences. The motives can be as different as day and night, but the political laws of physics still apply.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
13. Because if the base of any political party becomes disillusioned with elected representatives
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:30 PM
Nov 2018

from that political party, than those individual politicians increase the likelihood that they will be "retired". The reasons why base voters become unhappy with their representatives can be as different as the differences between base voters of different parties. I think there are very significant differences between base Republican and base Democratic voters. In particular there are major differences in why we give support to those whom we vote for.

The commonality is if you lose the allegiance of a significant portion of the activist base that typically helps you get elected, that complicates your chances of getting re-elected. That is all.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
11. We've yanked our support of Ed Perlmutter
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:09 PM
Nov 2018

And if he thinks he's going to have an easy slide trying to run for Senate in 2020 he's got a rude awakening coming.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
14. Link?
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:41 PM
Nov 2018

Democrats across the country do not agree on things. We are nowhere near being like trump’s base.

We do not have a homogenous base.

Trying to force everyone to the left or right is a losing proposition. Better to introduce your bills and see what support you get.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
17. I wrote: "It won't burn all of them"
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 05:15 PM
Nov 2018

I predict it will burn some of them. That's an opinion. It's based on the response so far from organizations like Move On and Indivisible, from critiques by media commentators (Rachel Maddow and others) about how this looks sexist to focus only on the one Democratic woman in a leadership position but none of the men for changing. It is based on growing anecdotal evidence of constituent displeasure including at a recent Town Hall meeting. It is based on Op Eds on Democratic leaning web sites. It is my opinion, yours may differ.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. Rick Wilson received death threats
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:44 PM
Nov 2018

and his teenage daughter was stalked & hounded by some MAGA type as she left school as well.

I hope Democrats don't become anything like that.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
16. We are not, nor should we nor will we be like that
Tue Nov 20, 2018, 04:55 PM
Nov 2018

In recent decades violence has overwhelmingly been a political tool of the far right, not the left. Geeze, I'm only talking about things like voting, door knocking, making campaign contributions etc. and how every politician counts on support from core members of their party to do sane responsible stuff like that.

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