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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 12:50 PM Nov 2018

George Papadopoulos's tweets may have just cost him bail: New legal filing from Mueller

George Papadopoulos's tweets may have just cost him bail: New legal filing from Mueller https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5218960-Mueller-response-regarding-Papadopoulos-request.html

"Following the defendant’s sentencing he made a variety of public statements that appear to be inconsistent with his stated acceptance of responsibility at sentencing"



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George Papadopoulos's tweets may have just cost him bail: New legal filing from Mueller (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2018 OP
I heard that Thanksgiving and Christmas feasts in NCjack Nov 2018 #1
Bologna sandwich. nt Hotler Nov 2018 #30
It's the only time of the year they get pie Just a Weirdo Nov 2018 #31
womp womp RockRaven Nov 2018 #2
Social media destroys almost everything it touches PJMcK Nov 2018 #3
True Roy Rolling Nov 2018 #29
I like your edit PJMcK Nov 2018 #32
These arrogant, stupid assholes never know when to shut up. n/t BlueStater Nov 2018 #4
I was reading a brief article about traits of people with criminal Hortensis Nov 2018 #5
Something Happens To The Brain When A Crime Is Committed Me. Nov 2018 #11
Maybe some people want to be caught, or feel like they are invulnerable? This sort of behavior... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #15
Huh. Very interesting subject. Notably, the Trump & Co Hortensis Nov 2018 #19
Google Was My Friend Me. Nov 2018 #20
Thanks, Me. :) Love the internet. DH & I are frequently surprised Hortensis Nov 2018 #22
It's the same self righteous indignation lunatica Nov 2018 #17
Lol. Hortensis Nov 2018 #25
LOL! lunatica Nov 2018 #26
I had the misfortune to spend a part of my life as a long-term federal inmate. NBachers Nov 2018 #24
Seth Abramson has been warning Papadopoulos for months. nt Grasswire2 Nov 2018 #6
My favorite part.... Roland99 Nov 2018 #7
Big Mouths, Little Brains Me. Nov 2018 #8
BTW - Mueller. Knows. All!! Roland99 Nov 2018 #9
Just another stupid mistake duforsure Nov 2018 #10
"as well as a female Russian national" Oh, that's interesting.... OnDoutside Nov 2018 #12
Lock him up. lilactime Nov 2018 #13
The verb 'tweet'... RichardRay Nov 2018 #14
He was only sentenced to 2 weeks. former9thward Nov 2018 #16
How stupid do you have to be to tweet things like that in the midst of your own prosecution? Honeycombe8 Nov 2018 #18
Was his Italian wife with the Eastern Bloc accent advising him in this idiocy? Really seemed like it Hekate Nov 2018 #21
Things my lawyer forgot to tell me - No drunk-tweeting FakeNoose Nov 2018 #23
Our only concellation being that the film Dumb & Dumber lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #27
I kinda feel bad for George Papadopoulos... SKKY Nov 2018 #28
 

Just a Weirdo

(488 posts)
31. It's the only time of the year they get pie
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:19 AM
Nov 2018

The rest is crap. The pies are crap too. I know this from experience when I was a guest of the Fed system for under 3 months.

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
2. womp womp
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 12:55 PM
Nov 2018

reasons not to listen to your obviously-a-Russian-agent fiancee/wife, number Eighty-seven: you'll say stupid crap on twitter which gets you tossed in prison.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
29. True
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:03 AM
Nov 2018

But idiots who run their mouth in public are not the new creation of social media. Social media is for nobodies like me and the most well-known people among us. Nobodies like him, who are made somebody by dint of the fact he's a high profile criminal, want to brag about themselves. He's a famous criminal. Smart criminals keep their mouths shut, dumb ones like Papadopolous and Trump run their mouths bragging how they beat the law.

On edit: I hope that smug asshole gets thrown in jail today. Not tomorrow, today. Revoke his bail on Thanksgiving and show the world how the end of leniency is abrupt, and on Mueller's timetable. Make an example of this prick, Bob.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. I was reading a brief article about traits of people with criminal
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:06 PM
Nov 2018

minds. It didn't mention the astonishing stupidity that's turning out to be so common, but ex- prosecutors say the incredible sloppiness we're seeing is very common. I didn't hear that they gravitate to each other for mutual advantage and shared "values," but that's become very obvious.

It did say that many can do well legally but are dissatisfied with success earned that way, so we end up with successful people who engage in kinds of criminal behaviors that success facilitates, cheating to gain, cheating to win, hurting others for the power of it, breaking laws because it pleases them -- until they eventually get caught. Ex- prosecutors on TV have said they're often genuinely outraged at being treated like criminals (seen any genuinely outraged people from that camp lately?). Kemp's was certainly real in Georgia.

Papadopoulos was just a newbie to the criminal world we're now observing activities of daily, of course, but he chose it instead of running far and fast. Other faces are popping firmly to mind, though, as I type.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
11. Something Happens To The Brain When A Crime Is Committed
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:19 PM
Nov 2018

Some twist, especially with murder, that stupid mistakes are made. Looking at the situation from the outside, you can't help wondering why they didn't get rid of evidence or do this or that like keeping their big mouths shut. Police talk about this quite a bit. C'est mystere.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
15. Maybe some people want to be caught, or feel like they are invulnerable? This sort of behavior...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:14 PM
Nov 2018

to mouth off etc. just seems crazy.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Huh. Very interesting subject. Notably, the Trump & Co
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:45 PM
Nov 2018

types are not committing spontaneous crimes, but usually ones that require scheming and prior actions, often a lot of it. I can imagine it would change the brain anyway. Caffeine does, why not the thrill of bilking someone out of his life savings/

Me.

(35,454 posts)
20. Google Was My Friend
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:47 PM
Nov 2018

“Evil isn’t easy. Say what you will about history’s monsters, they had to overcome a lot of powerful neural wiring to commit the crimes they did. The human brain is coded for compassion, for guilt, for a kind of empathic pain that causes the person inflicting harm to feel a degree of suffering that is in many ways as intense as what the victim is experiencing. Somehow, that all gets decoupled—and a new study published in the journal Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience brings science a step closer to understanding exactly what goes on in the brain of a killer.”

http://time.com/3816212/brain-murder-morality/


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. Thanks, Me. :) Love the internet. DH & I are frequently surprised
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:24 PM
Nov 2018

as we look back to even the turn of the century when we didn't google the way we do now because information was still so sparse.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. It's the same self righteous indignation
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:21 PM
Nov 2018

That you see in people who get a traffic ticket for breaking the law. Especially if previously they broke the same laws and got away with it. They feel deeply outraged and self pity for the “unfair” treatment.

I imagine cops are used to it. I know I’ve caught a couple of them off guard when I immediately admit to my crime of speeding 10 miles an hour over the speed limit! That’s the extent of my crimes so far. In 55 years of driving I’ve gotten two speeding tickets.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Lol.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

I've earned a ton of speeding tickets as an appraiser in L.A., and am probably as righteously proud of my crimes as Trump is of his. (Other drivers are stupid. Only I can do it.) But my two tickets in 50 years are for rolling slowly through a 4-way stop on dead streets at 4 in the morning and not fastening my seatbelt to drive half a block from one store to another.

Living on the edge gets addictive, doesn't it?



NBachers

(17,107 posts)
24. I had the misfortune to spend a part of my life as a long-term federal inmate.
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:37 PM
Nov 2018

A lot of these guys were convinced that there was one specific thing they did that got them busted. They decided that, next time around they would not do that one specific thing. That meanst, to them, that they would not get busted next time.

A lot of them had no second thoughts about the fact that they were going right back out into criminal activities as soon as they got out. Some of them got arrested before they even made it to the halfway house.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
7. My favorite part....
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:08 PM
Nov 2018
Once the defendant pleaded
guilty “[t]he law has shifted from a presumption of release to a presumption of valid conviction,”

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
10. Just another stupid mistake
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:15 PM
Nov 2018

From someone corrupted by trump who acts before he thinks, then regrets it. It should be a reminder to many others they will have consequences for their actions. Some for their inaction.

RichardRay

(2,611 posts)
14. The verb 'tweet'...
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 01:47 PM
Nov 2018

‘Tweet’ seems to have become formally acceptable. It’s used without explanation or scare quotes in this very austere legal document.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. How stupid do you have to be to tweet things like that in the midst of your own prosecution?
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 02:34 PM
Nov 2018

Pretty stupid.

It seems like Pappadopoulus may have been the gateway and instigator of the Trump campaign's conspiring with Russia about those emails.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
21. Was his Italian wife with the Eastern Bloc accent advising him in this idiocy? Really seemed like it
Wed Nov 21, 2018, 03:16 PM
Nov 2018

Unbelievable.

Welcome to federal prison, Cofveve Boy. Enjoy your stay.

lindysalsagal

(20,678 posts)
27. Our only concellation being that the film Dumb & Dumber
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:59 AM
Nov 2018

Preceded this fubar administration, so it could be referred to when necessary.

SKKY

(11,804 posts)
28. I kinda feel bad for George Papadopoulos...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:17 AM
Nov 2018

...he wandered into this like a lost child, and is now in way, way over his head. But, this is what happens when children play adult games.

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