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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:24 AM Nov 2018

Six tax deductions you'll lose on your 2018 return


If you were hoarding receipts in a shoebox with the hope of claiming a big break on your 2018 taxes, prepare to be disappointed.

That's because the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act placed steep limits on itemized deductions, including lesser-known breaks for the fees you pay your tax preparer and unreimbursed employee business expenses.

The new tax law also eliminated personal exemptions and nearly doubled the standard deduction to about $12,000 for singles and $24,000 for married joint filers — which will likely result in fewer people taking itemized deductions on their 2018 returns.

"The standard deduction is so high," said Cari Weston, CPA and director of tax practice and ethics at the CPA institute. "You might not itemize in the future if you were itemizing before."

Here are six itemized deductions that are capped or gone altogether from your 2018 return.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/six-tax-deductions-youll-lose-on-your-2018-return/ar-BBPXsbb?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=mailsignout
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Six tax deductions you'll lose on your 2018 return (Original Post) mfcorey1 Nov 2018 OP
SALT Cap JustAnotherGen Nov 2018 #1
High Local Taxes modrepub Nov 2018 #12
We need a Transfer Payment Equalization Act. roamer65 Nov 2018 #31
Yep, and if a single parent with 4 kids just over the caps, you get half the deductions of a SINK. TheBlackAdder Nov 2018 #20
If you are 70.5 years old or more with an IRA, google "Qualified Charitable Distribution" JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #2
Without itemizing? watoos Nov 2018 #3
That's good of PA. Our IRS, on the other hand, has its hand out. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #24
That's just great for those who don't need their distributions to live on. llmart Nov 2018 #4
If you and the other seniors give to charities or to church, you can't afford not to. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #25
I'm not a churchgoer... llmart Nov 2018 #28
No, this is different than deducting charitable donations. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #29
Ha. Thought you meant charitable donation to yourself. Nt Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2018 #5
I'm not a 501(3)(c) charity ... yet. :) JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2018 #26
This article made me feel better. We do itemize because we have 2 small businesses and Vinca Nov 2018 #6
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Nov 2018 #7
Some pay. Some pay less. Igel Nov 2018 #10
As usual, the wealthy benefit from the tax cuts while the rest of us IronLionZion Nov 2018 #8
Also, the corporations got a huge tax cut. llmart Nov 2018 #9
You are so correct, watoos Nov 2018 #11
Haven't itemized in at least 10 years MichMan Nov 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Nov 2018 #21
gonna surprise many tax filiers they will have to PAY......after being told of all the great benefit beachbum bob Nov 2018 #14
Check what's being withheld from your income nitpicker Nov 2018 #30
The amount withheld has noting to do with how much you owe. MichMan Nov 2018 #33
I benefit from the higher deduction. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #15
This would have been the first year for which I would have itemized milestogo Nov 2018 #16
That is a pretty high standard deduction though oberliner Nov 2018 #17
Don't we also lose the personal exemption? sinkingfeeling Nov 2018 #18
Yes, and dependents too. borgesian Nov 2018 #19
Won't many lower income folks who don't have much to itemize come out ahead? MichMan Nov 2018 #22
One of the reasons they lost so many CA and NJ house seats. Nt karynnj Nov 2018 #23
Does this change include shanti Nov 2018 #27
Some not mentioned items here people. airplaneman Nov 2018 #32

JustAnotherGen

(31,813 posts)
1. SALT Cap
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:53 AM
Nov 2018

We need this eliminated - immediately

. . . reside in New York, New Jersey or California, odds are you're feeling the squeeze from property tax, real estate taxes and state and local income levies.

Meanwhile, 45 states and the District of Columbia levy statewide sales taxes — and municipalities in 38 states add on a layer of local sales taxes, too, according to the Tax Foundation.

Prior to the tax overhaul, you were able to nab an itemized deduction — known as the state and local tax deduction or SALT — for these levies.


This is why the NJ Delegation looks the way it does. Forget climate change, kidnapped children and American Nazis. It's about how we fund out schools, how very little NJ gets back from Fed Gov compared to how much we put in.

Federal Grants/Aid is nominal to the state. McConnell, Ryan and Trump - what they did to us was vindictive and cruel.
https://www.njsba.org/news-information/parent-connections/school-finance-101/

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
12. High Local Taxes
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:11 AM
Nov 2018

I’ve been wondering lately if one of the reasons some states have high local taxes is because of how little they get back at the federal/state level. I’d love to know the answer to this question. A breakdown of each state/county tax payments and returns would be enlightening. Would love a guaranteed return on taxes that would limit how much could exit via taxes. If Mitch wants to cut entitlements then the states and counties on “the take” should be first in line for cuts. In my mind figuring out who pays and who takes is easy enough to do

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
31. We need a Transfer Payment Equalization Act.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:21 PM
Nov 2018

A simple law that says no state can receive from the federal government any more than they pay in to it in taxes.

TheBlackAdder

(28,184 posts)
20. Yep, and if a single parent with 4 kids just over the caps, you get half the deductions of a SINK.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:36 AM
Nov 2018

.

Married Single income No Kids, or Dual Income No Kids.

.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
2. If you are 70.5 years old or more with an IRA, google "Qualified Charitable Distribution"
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 07:58 AM
Nov 2018

You can make charitable donations as directed distributions from your IRA and avoid the tax on them.

Happy Thanksgiving, and keep giving.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
24. That's good of PA. Our IRS, on the other hand, has its hand out.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 12:59 PM
Nov 2018

And, correct, without itemizing. Your IRA's investment house handles the magic.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
4. That's just great for those who don't need their distributions to live on.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:20 AM
Nov 2018

But most of the seniors I know who are taking distributions can't afford to do that.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
25. If you and the other seniors give to charities or to church, you can't afford not to.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:01 PM
Nov 2018

It's better to give 100 and not pay tax on it, rather than giving 100 and THEN paying tax on it.

If you don't give to church or charity, then this doesn't apply.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
28. I'm not a churchgoer...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:16 PM
Nov 2018

and I've given much to charity over my adulthood including hours and hours of volunteer time. However, now that I'm retired and living on a fixed income, other than volunteering, I don't have the means to give money any longer. Also, I thought the article said that it would only apply to large dollar amounts? The clip is info on how the donations must be handled. It has more to do with being able to itemize than it does anything else.

"Bunching charitable gifts allows donors to cram two or more years' worth of donations into a single tax year in order to get over the standard deduction threshold and qualify to itemize on their 2018 tax returns."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
29. No, this is different than deducting charitable donations.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:25 PM
Nov 2018

This gives directly from the IRA, you never touch the money, it doesn't show up as income. Of course, this means you don't itemize the donation, that would be "double-dipping". And, it can be small amounts - there's no threshold that you need to exceed to get the benefit. The article didn't mention "Qualified Charitable Distribution", probably because it only applies to us old people (over 70.5 yrs) with IRAs.

Giving every other year might be a good tactic for younger donors. The same tactic worked for "winter" property taxes, alternately pay in January or December to get two hits in the same year.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
26. I'm not a 501(3)(c) charity ... yet. :)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:05 PM
Nov 2018

There is another mechanism involving some sort of personal charitable trust, but I haven't looked into it, and the investment person couldn't explain it in a way I could understand, so I will ignore it for now.

I am not a Trump, I have no "charitable" foundation with my name on it, no way to hide my "billions".

But maybe you have an idea ...

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
6. This article made me feel better. We do itemize because we have 2 small businesses and
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:32 AM
Nov 2018

I can only see one minor deduction we'll be losing and it's offset by the higher standard deduction.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
10. Some pay. Some pay less.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:59 AM
Nov 2018

Never had enough mortgage deductions to make itemizing make sense. Housing prices aren't unreasonable, so the mortgage isn't high.

Got no state income tax. Don't give a lot of money to charity of any stripe.

Things like tax prep fees ... When it's not a large amount, to dig down to that ... ?

I could see health or loss deductions being a problem, but not on a continuing basis. Health insurance caps most expenses at a fairly reasonable amount (and I have my employer's high deductible policy).

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
8. As usual, the wealthy benefit from the tax cuts while the rest of us
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:07 AM
Nov 2018

get screwed out of deductions. Some folks will pay more than before.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
9. Also, the corporations got a huge tax cut.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:39 AM
Nov 2018

If you read the entire article, it sounds like the wealthy, the corporations, people who have offshore accounts, are all the ones who benefited greatly. They even mention how Trump benefits. So some middle class people will get a modest cut, but once again the inequality grows.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
11. You are so correct,
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:10 AM
Nov 2018

It won't just be people who lost itemized deductions, it will be also be Trumpers who filed 1040 EZ returns.
Yeah the Standard Deduction is doubled but that will be offset by the elimination of exemptions.

Response to MichMan (Reply #13)

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
14. gonna surprise many tax filiers they will have to PAY......after being told of all the great benefit
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:13 AM
Nov 2018

of trump's taxcuts

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
30. Check what's being withheld from your income
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 06:03 PM
Nov 2018

A lot of places altered their withholdings and thus underestimated the tax that needed to be withheld.

On top of that, it didn't leave cushions for bits of extra income, some retirement distributions, etc.

Go to https://apps.irs.gov/app/picklist/list/draftTaxForms.html

and click on Inst 1040 Tax Tables for the draft tables.

MichMan

(11,912 posts)
33. The amount withheld has noting to do with how much you owe.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:05 PM
Nov 2018

Always laughed at those idiots that were so happy they were getting a big refund without recognizing it was just their own money anyway.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,849 posts)
15. I benefit from the higher deduction.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018

So now I'm not paying any state or federal income tax.

Of course, my income isn't terribly high, but still.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
16. This would have been the first year for which I would have itemized
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:18 AM
Nov 2018

due to medical expenses... but its under $12000.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
27. Does this change include
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 01:05 PM
Nov 2018

mortgage credit certificates? I don't itemize, but I have always claimed this credit since purchasing (and refinancing) my house. I've only seen that the SALT deduction is gone, but a credit is different?

airplaneman

(1,239 posts)
32. Some not mentioned items here people.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 08:15 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Fri Nov 23, 2018, 12:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Take a couple over 65 who don't itemize already which is probably most of us 99%-ers in this category. The standard deduction goes from $12,700 to $24,000 that's $11,300 not $12,000.
You loose the standard deduction 2 x $4,050.00 and the over 65 deduction 2 x $1,250.00 and this is $10,600 versus $11,300 or $700. And if you think you are going to save $700 I have identified about $4K in additional lost benefits for my personal situation so I pay taxes on $3,300 more than before the "CUT". It gets worse in 2026 the $24,000 goes back to $12,700 and you don't get back any of the deductions you lost. This needs to change along with a lot of other things.
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