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sl8

(13,736 posts)
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:30 PM Nov 2018

China blacklists millions of people from booking flights as 'social credit' system introduced

From https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-social-credit-system-flight-booking-blacklisted-beijing-points-a8646316.html

China blacklists millions of people from booking flights as 'social credit' system introduced
Officials say aim is to make it ‘difficult to move’ for those deemed ‘untrustworthy’

Harry Cockburn
13 hours ago

Millions of Chinese nationals have been blocked from booking flights or trains as Beijing seeks to implement its controversial “social credit” system, which allows the government to closely monitor and judge each of its 1.3 billion citizens based on their behaviour and activity.

The system, to be rolled out by 2020, aims to make it “difficult to move” for those deemed “untrustworthy”, according to a detailed plan published by the government this week.

It will be used to reward or punish people and organisations for “trustworthiness” across a range of measures.

A key part of the plan not only involves blacklisting people with low social credibility scores, but also “publicly disclosing the records of enterprises and individuals’ untrustworthiness on a regular basis”.

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China blacklists millions of people from booking flights as 'social credit' system introduced (Original Post) sl8 Nov 2018 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2018 #1
Nice try teach1st Nov 2018 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #11
Using the current administration's definitions of "fake news", most DU posters would be blacklisted. sl8 Nov 2018 #15
Careful what you wish for. A HERETIC I AM Nov 2018 #5
WTAF ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #6
lolwut JHan Nov 2018 #10
Uh; no... EarthFirst Nov 2018 #12
Absolute fucking nightmare, that Black Mirror episode wasn't supposed to be a guidebook! ansible Nov 2018 #2
Right? Fiction can't even touch fact these days. nolabear Nov 2018 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #4
Fake News? That's Trump Speak. No thanks. MineralMan Nov 2018 #7
. ismnotwasm Nov 2018 #8
No. Who should do the blacklisting? The Government? Quango? Commercial rating system? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2018 #13
This is proof LHedge Nov 2018 #9
Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2018 #16
Socialism has nothing to do with gun ownership Maeve Nov 2018 #20
I heard about this a few weeks ago and found it the scariest thing... LAS14 Nov 2018 #14
It might help global warming... Joe941 Nov 2018 #21
Pot Meet Kettle. The US already has "no fly lists". We detain citizens without trial. McCamy Taylor Nov 2018 #18
& so goes Venezuela - can anybody else (cough cough) be far behind? UTUSN Nov 2018 #19

Response to sl8 (Original post)

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
3. Nice try
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:37 PM
Nov 2018

Last edited Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:47 PM - Edit history (1)

It's scary, repressive shit, and I don't know a Democrat who would support it.

Response to teach1st (Reply #3)

sl8

(13,736 posts)
15. Using the current administration's definitions of "fake news", most DU posters would be blacklisted.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:12 PM
Nov 2018
 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
2. Absolute fucking nightmare, that Black Mirror episode wasn't supposed to be a guidebook!
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:37 PM
Nov 2018

Jesus Christ, technology has made our lives worse...

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
17. Right? Fiction can't even touch fact these days.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:39 PM
Nov 2018

Lord,China gets away with so much because we like things cheap and easy.

Response to sl8 (Original post)

LHedge

(2 posts)
9. This is proof
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 09:45 PM
Nov 2018

that we need socialism. We can no longer allow these repuke gun owners to put their ridiculous beliefs over the good of the American people!

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
20. Socialism has nothing to do with gun ownership
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:39 AM
Nov 2018

And if you are pushing for an authoritarian governmental system, you are probably in the wrong place.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
14. I heard about this a few weeks ago and found it the scariest thing...
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 10:09 PM
Nov 2018

... I've heard about in years.... Well, second to climate change.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
18. Pot Meet Kettle. The US already has "no fly lists". We detain citizens without trial.
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:21 PM
Nov 2018

We plant evidence. We incarcerate minorities. We strip them of voting rights.

China is just like us, only they are more open about their repression, because their tactics are more socially acceptable in their culture. In the U.S. the forces of totalitarianism have to pretend to respect our liberty. But when the president encourages school shootings by blaming the victims, that is also a form of political repression---making us live in fear of a bullet from a right wing extremist.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
19. & so goes Venezuela - can anybody else (cough cough) be far behind?
Thu Nov 22, 2018, 11:35 PM
Nov 2018

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https://www.businessinsider.com/venezuela-id-card-tracks-citizens-like-china-2018-11

Venezuela is rolling out a new ID card manufactured in China that can track, reward, and punish citizens


.... A 'fatherland card' of their own
But 10 years after the Shenzhen trip, Venezuela is rolling out a new, smart-card ID known as the "carnet de la patria," or "fatherland card."

The ID transmits data about cardholders to computer servers. The card is increasingly linked by the government to subsidized food, health, and other social programs most Venezuelans rely on to survive.

And ZTE, whose role in the fatherland project is detailed here for the first time, is at the heart of the program. ....

Among other measures, ZTE installed data storage units built by US-based Dell Technologies Inc, according to one ZTE document. Dell spokeswoman Lauren Lee said ZTE is a client in China but that Dell doesn't sell equipment to ZTE in Venezuela. She said Dell reviewed its transactions in Venezuela and wasn't aware of any sale to Cantv, either. ....

With personal data now so available, some citizens fear they can lose more than just their jobs, said Mariela Magallanes, an opposition lawmaker who headed a commission that last year investigated how the fatherland card was being linked to the subsidized food program.

The government, the commission said in a report, is depriving some citizens of the food boxes because they don't possess the card. "The government knows exactly who is most vulnerable to pressure," she said.

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