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sweetroxie

(776 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 09:58 AM Nov 2018

My theory about Trump/Hillary vehemence

OK, so she was a political opponent, so he gave her the "opponent treatment". But why so vehement and why so persistent? There must be something else going on too. As you know, Chelsea Clinton and Ivanka Trump were besties before the election (I don't know where there relationship stands now). I think maybe Ivanka liked Hillary too much and IQ45 got jealous and possessive of his princess and decided to punish Hillary in every way possible. And now he wants to convict her (of "stealing" his daughter?). This HAS to me more than just a political struggle.

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no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
1. Sounds feasible.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 AM
Nov 2018

I would add that Trump hates the idea of any woman challenging him. Hillary has a law degree from Yale; he doesn't. Hillary has experience in state and federal government; he doesn't. She hasn't been destroyed by her husband's scandals. In fact, she's admired more for her perseverance and courage. She has the virtues he lacks.

My guess is that Trump wishes that Ivanka had the qualities of Chelsea Clinton. Ivanka has been groomed, not raised.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
6. Thank you. This doesn't sound like a close friendship to me.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:39 AM
Nov 2018

This is typical politician "friendliness."

PJMcK

(21,995 posts)
8. More like wealthy/entitled "friendliness"
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:17 AM
Nov 2018

Both Chelsea Clinton and Trump circulated in the same economic and social set in New York City. Their parents were friendly acquaintances and they probably saw one another at many functions.

I doubt they have any interactions anymore.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
3. Nah. He and the republicans just hate women who have intelligence and power.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 10:06 AM
Nov 2018

It makes them shrivel like prunes, and they really hate that.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
10. Yes
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:30 AM
Nov 2018

and even though Trump may have won the election, he still feels like Hillary had the upper hand in many ways, including 3 million more votes. It seems that once Trump starts a rivalry, he just cannot let it go unless his opponent bows down to him, pledging unwavering loyalty as with Ted Cruz.

He is so jealous of anyone who is superior to him in any way, especially intelligence, that he will repeatedly tear them down.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
13. Which does nothing more than it tells us what a little worm he
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 12:07 PM
Nov 2018

is, who is rightfully certain that everyone is better than he is.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
18. Exactly
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:28 PM
Nov 2018

He has a very low self esteem, which is evident in his over-the-top boasting. Very intelligent people don't have a need to constantly advertise their superiority. Their accomplishments are more than enough. Also very rich people don't go around bragging about their wealth.

I wonder what his childhood was really like. Did his parents tell him that HE was a "disgrace" with a low IQ?

boston bean

(36,218 posts)
9. It all comes down to him trying to change the narrative
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 11:20 AM
Nov 2018

and gin up his base. She is the real criminal, not me.

Problem is he is using his power as president to do this. Which makes it real.

But really it is nothing more than that.

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
12. He was following instructions.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 12:01 PM
Nov 2018

Those instructions just happen to suit his vile, nasty self. I believe Cambridge Analytica's psyops knew exactly how he should treat Hillary. CA made Trump and stoked the "fears" and hate of his core base.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
16. He hates her because she's everything he'd like to be: Brilliaant, articulate, educated, brave
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:02 PM
Nov 2018

Plus, millions of people voted for her over him.

That drives him crazy.

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