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edhopper

(33,482 posts)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:06 PM Nov 2018

Can something please be done about solicitation calls?

It is getting ridiculous. 10 to 12 a day minimum. Sometimes one after another. We are on the "Do Not Call" list, which seems to be completely ineffective.
I am sure the Repugs would find a way to thwart any effort to reign this in.
But come 2020, can we please find a way to end this annoyance?


This is mostly our landline, but on our cell as well.

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Can something please be done about solicitation calls? (Original Post) edhopper Nov 2018 OP
Cell? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #1
mostly land line edhopper Nov 2018 #2
My cell rings all day with these JenniferJuniper Nov 2018 #3
Real easy to block the calls, google how as to your phone, and yes they use different numbers Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #12
They usually don't use the same number twice JenniferJuniper Nov 2018 #27
can't speak for landlines crazycatlady Nov 2018 #4
There are calls from people edhopper Nov 2018 #9
You can block individual calls, numbers. Just google how to do it per your phone. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #13
It's never the same numbers edhopper Nov 2018 #19
I know, frustrating, but block them anyway as I would think eventually they Eliot Rosewater Nov 2018 #20
Thanks, and this is what I am talking about edhopper Nov 2018 #21
they never reuse them, do you know how many numbers there are? come on CreekDog Nov 2018 #23
True about local numbers marlakay Nov 2018 #30
"Do Not Call" is a joke. They're using Caller ID spoofing dalton99a Nov 2018 #5
I love getting calls from "Ace Hardware" letting me know I've "won" a 4d/5n vacation to wherever. Afromania Nov 2018 #6
Check out Nomorobo. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #7
Seems to only be for landline/VoiP SoCalNative Nov 2018 #10
There is an app for cells edhopper Nov 2018 #22
Oooh, send them all to drumpf. louis-t Nov 2018 #43
I wish, but the app just sends them to its own number. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2018 #44
I get about 20 per day on my landline, and it is the biggest... LuckyCharms Nov 2018 #8
They are rude about calling times, too. CrispyQ Nov 2018 #11
If you have caller ID, you can try this. safeinOhio Nov 2018 #14
We so that edhopper Nov 2018 #18
We have caller ID, and if someone calls we don't know, they get this message: LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2018 #35
I hat the robocalls because I can't punish them csziggy Nov 2018 #15
There are a lot of scammy overseas boiler rooms making those calls. backscatter712 Nov 2018 #16
For a little more fun... Thunderbeast Nov 2018 #17
LOL HAB911 Nov 2018 #37
I very, very, seldom answer my phone. Hotler Nov 2018 #24
Which can be a pain in the ass edhopper Nov 2018 #25
I just let my answering machine handle calls from numbers I don't recognize. Different Drummer Nov 2018 #26
Yes! Every morning KT2000 Nov 2018 #28
I have CenturyLink MurrayDelph Nov 2018 #29
I get so much spam, robo calls and telemarketers that I want to... Initech Nov 2018 #31
Political and charitable calls are exempt from DNC, so the answer is "no". brooklynite Nov 2018 #32
Those are a small percentage edhopper Nov 2018 #34
The best way is don't answer the phone (land or cell). If it's someone important to you, ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2018 #33
The Do Not Call list works very well... SeattleVet Nov 2018 #36
Oh, I really like "North District, fraud division"! Thanks! n/t cyclonefence Nov 2018 #40
"Legitimate telemarketer" customerserviceguy Nov 2018 #46
I get robocalls in Chinese these days here in Las Vegas...I don't know why. pecosbob Nov 2018 #38
They are targeting Chinese immigrants... SeattleVet Nov 2018 #41
Sounds about right...I get another regular one about a problem with my credit card (I don't own one) pecosbob Nov 2018 #42
Easy--unplug the phone cyclonefence Nov 2018 #39
Dump the landline customerserviceguy Nov 2018 #45
We have reasons for a landline edhopper Nov 2018 #47
I'd be curious customerserviceguy Nov 2018 #48

JenniferJuniper

(4,507 posts)
3. My cell rings all day with these
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:10 PM
Nov 2018

I have to turn it off when I'm at work as on average I get 3 -4 calls a day ranging from the ones telling me the IRS will be having me arrested any minute now to people selling windows.

I'm on the do not call list. It's being completely ignored.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
12. Real easy to block the calls, google how as to your phone, and yes they use different numbers
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:38 PM
Nov 2018

but it only takes a second.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
4. can't speak for landlines
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:12 PM
Nov 2018

But on most modern cell phones, you can block calls from numbers that are not in your contacts.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
13. You can block individual calls, numbers. Just google how to do it per your phone.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:39 PM
Nov 2018

On mine it is right there when I look at details of the call.

edhopper

(33,482 posts)
21. Thanks, and this is what I am talking about
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:07 PM
Nov 2018

we shouldn't have to put in this much effort for a little peace.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. they never reuse them, do you know how many numbers there are? come on
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:10 PM
Nov 2018

I haven't blocked a single number and NEVER has one been reused.

Blocking numbers is a waste of time unless you get a repeat call.

marlakay

(11,425 posts)
30. True about local numbers
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nov 2018

Most is my spam cell calls are from WA where we used to live and kept phone number. So I actually know if I see my local one to pick up!

I had thought of switching to local number until I figured this out.

dalton99a

(81,403 posts)
5. "Do Not Call" is a joke. They're using Caller ID spoofing
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:13 PM
Nov 2018

and nobody is doing anything about it.

It's easier to ignore numbers that are not in your contact list

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,590 posts)
7. Check out Nomorobo.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:17 PM
Nov 2018
https://nomorobo.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/115000963232-Nomorobo-Landline-101

Using it depends on whether your phone carrier will support the service, but if it does you might give it a try. It detects robocalls and forwards them somewhere. You hear the phone ring only once, so you know it's trapped a robocall. It's been working quite well for me.

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
8. I get about 20 per day on my landline, and it is the biggest...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:17 PM
Nov 2018

pain in the ass.

I utilize nomorerobo, but the phone still rings once before the call is silenced. I guess it has something to do with the way the blocking technology works that allows the phone to ring once. If you are expecting an important call, or trying to get some shut-eye or in the middle of a project, that one ring is infuriating.

I am hoping that someone develops a solution to this problem.

Sometimes if I am not busy, I will just answer the call and fuck with them for about 45 minutes. One thing that I find funny...when they realize that I am screwing around with them, they always have comments about my mother and sister. There must be some kind of procedure manual for all of these assholes that tells them to accuse people of having sex with female family members.

What a world.

CrispyQ

(36,422 posts)
11. They are rude about calling times, too.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:34 PM
Nov 2018

We've gotten calls past 8PM on weeknights & calls on Sundays, too. There is never a break from someone trying to sell you something or ask for money.

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
14. If you have caller ID, you can try this.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:43 PM
Nov 2018

Do not pick up if don't know the caller number.
Let the machine get it. Your message needs to tell caller, if you do not leave a message and call more than twice, this number will be blocked. Please try one of my other numbers, even if you don't have other numbers.

35. We have caller ID, and if someone calls we don't know, they get this message:
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:43 PM
Nov 2018

"If this is about refinancing our home, please remove our number from your list. Otherwise, leave a message." We've had pretty good luck so far -- in the past year we've had only one salesman sneak past, and they were spoofing a number from our town.

We still get 5-10 calls a day, at all hours, seven days a week. Now when a website asks for our name, email and telephone number, they get: Betty Bowers, AmericasBestChristian@gmail.com, and 1-800-928-2086, which is Dial-a-Prayer. If they won't provide me the information I want on their website, I'll be damned I'll give them mine.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
15. I hat the robocalls because I can't punish them
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:44 PM
Nov 2018

I keep a whistle next to the phone. For the IRS and Microsoft technical support scammers I blow that whistle as hard as I can. I usually hear a "fuck" before they hang up.

I can't do that to the robocalls. I especially hate "Ann" calling about health insurance since I have been on Medicare for over a year.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
16. There are a lot of scammy overseas boiler rooms making those calls.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 01:53 PM
Nov 2018

Until the phone carriers are forced to crack down, they're just going to shrug and refuse to do anything. With enough customer rage, and threats of regulation, they can act, in the same way that ISPs and email providers work to fight spam.

Hotler

(11,396 posts)
24. I very, very, seldom answer my phone.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:29 PM
Nov 2018

I am still land line only. I have had an answering machine forever. all my friends know and will say "Steve pick up." or they know to leave a message. If it is important the caller will leave a message.

Different Drummer

(7,603 posts)
26. I just let my answering machine handle calls from numbers I don't recognize.
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:40 PM
Nov 2018

Part of my outgoing message is, "If this is a sales or political call, please hang up now." Most of them hang up at that point, if not before.

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
28. Yes! Every morning
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 02:48 PM
Nov 2018

while I am still sleeping I am getting a robo call where the tape is mixed up. The message makes no sense and it replays three times.

MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
29. I have CenturyLink
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:07 PM
Nov 2018

and they have a feature available that, for no extra cost, pre-screens all calls with a recording informing the caller that we don't take solicitation calls, but if they have legitimate business they should press 1 or stay on the line.

We rarely get junk calls anymore. But we also rarely get the full recorded messages from our doctors reminding us of upcoming appointments.

SWBTATTReg

(22,065 posts)
33. The best way is don't answer the phone (land or cell). If it's someone important to you, ...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:15 PM
Nov 2018

they will leave a msg. My phone call volumes have virtually dropped to zero calls on the land line and very little numbers on my cell phone. We just don't answer the phones. I think that if no response is detected, and this occurs lots of times, your incoming phone call volumes will drop in number. By simply not answering the phone (of course it's easy for me as I am profoundly hard of hearing and can't hear the phone anyway!

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
36. The Do Not Call list works very well...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 03:44 PM
Nov 2018

I have not received a call from a *legitimate* telemarketer in several years. The calls we are getting are all from the scammers and other assorted criminals, and they are already breaking several laws, so what's one more? They don't care about the DNC registry, because they're using caller ID spoofing on a VOIP line from a call center, usually somewhere in India or Pakistan, so their chances of getting caught and prosecuted are minimal.

Every once in a while they do get caught - a few months ago a big operation in India was busted, with something like 95 people arrested. Another domestic one (Florida!) wound up getting hit with a $3.6 million fine (those illegal calls at $1500 each add up quickly!).

Having said that, we used to get around 4 or 5 of these scammer calls a day until we started using an Ooma VOIP phone system as our landline (our 'phone bill' every month is the taxes, so we pay something like $16/month for phone service on this, including the option I mention below).

They have a set of 'blacklist' features with their 'premier' option (for $10/month, but it also includes a lot of other nice-to-have stuff) that have reduced this to maybe 1 a week. You can block specific numbers (or wildcard anything - for instance, the scammers that use a DC area code...I have all of DC blocked, and a huge part of Florida where the timeshare scammers congregate), and it has both a hook into NoMoRobo (which blocks a huge percentage of the robocalls) and a 'community blacklist', where if enough people have blocked a number, it gets blocked for everyone that turned on that feature. Each type can be turned on or off individually, and you have the option of them getting a 'call blocked' message, a never-ending ring signal, or send it directly to voicemail. You can also block by name, anonymous calls, etc.

(We've been using this system for several years now. Handy for when we travel, too...we can bring the phone with us and hook it up to the Internet connection wherever we're staying and it works just as if we were at home. We've been super-happy customers!)

For the few calls that *do* manage to get through, if I see an obvious scammer or number I don't recognize, I turn on the scanner by my desk and answer, "North Precinct; Fraud Division" with police calls going on in the background. They usually can't hang up fast enough, and I *never* hear back from that number.

Good luck!

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
41. They are targeting Chinese immigrants...
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 04:10 PM
Nov 2018

it's a message about some type of a 'problem' with their paperwork that they can resolve by paying some money instead of having to go back to China to 'correct' it. Total scare tactic and scam...it's been publicized here in Seattle and other areas with large Chinese populations. The message is in Mandarin.

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
42. Sounds about right...I get another regular one about a problem with my credit card (I don't own one)
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 04:13 PM
Nov 2018

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
39. Easy--unplug the phone
Sat Nov 24, 2018, 04:04 PM
Nov 2018

Tell anyone you want to hear from that it will be plugged in from 3-5 p.m. every day, and to call you then. Tell as many doctors' offices and other businesses to send you an email. After a week or two, plug your phone back in 24/7. You'll be amazed and delighted how few trash calls you get. When they start to pick up, unplug the phone again. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I am convinced that many, if not most, junk calls are to verify that your number is a working number. If you answer, even if you block that number thenceforth, your number has been verified and can be sold to telemarketers, whose number you will not have blocked. Best not to let the calls connect with your number in the first place.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
45. Dump the landline
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 02:28 AM
Nov 2018

It is totally unnecessary at this point in the 21st Century. And, with your smartphone, set your default ring as one second of silence, then assign a real ringtone to the people you know. If a doctor's office or somebody you actually care about calls, they'll leave a message. If a spammer does leave a voicemail, you can delete it quickly. Most don't leave one.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
48. I'd be curious
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:34 PM
Nov 2018

to know what they are. Yes, they tend to go down less in a severe weather situation, but the best way to deal with such a thing is to get the heck out of the area where you're expecting, say, a hurricane.

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