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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo sad! Did any of you Tiger and Phil play
each other for 9 million dollars? Breaks my heart to know that
Phil Mickelson has to pay taxes on his 9 million dollar winnings..
Remember several years ago when he publicly complained about
how much taxes he has to pay.?
Here's a reminder... By the way.
https://money.cnn.com/2013/01/23/news/economy/mickelson-taxes/index.html
nini
(16,672 posts)This just helps me know I've been right about him all along.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)until he came out with this statement a couple of years ago.
monmouth4
(9,694 posts)dem4decades
(11,282 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)dem4decades
(11,282 posts)But a few years ago Phil was in a playoff with a young kid that had never won a tournament, on the first playoff hole the kid hit a great approach shot right to the pin. Phil turned to the kid and just smiled and said "Great shot". I've never seen Tiger do anything similar under the same circumstances.
brush
(53,764 posts)After all his troubles he's gotten a little more humble.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)busterbrown
(8,515 posts)He was just so freaking good.. But when I read about how we should treat the presidency with respect.
Fuck him too now!
elocs
(22,566 posts)that it's a good walk spoiled.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)I'm a good athlete (was) I'm 70... Never broke an honest 85.. I played a lot too.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)I play golf. I almost always walk the course and carry my bag which weighs about 15-20 pounds depending on how much gear and refreshments I need on a given day. When walking a course, the golfer will cover between 5-1/2 to 8 miles usually over somewhat hilly terrain. At the end, it's pretty tiring.
How is that "negative exercise?" Try it sometime then get back to me.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Part of it was chronic back pain, which is very common at the pga - part of it was frustration, taking up golf in his 40's which was a handicap in itself. He and I both say 'negative exercise' in good humor.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)I played tennis for years until my knees couldn't take the impacts. That sport is really intense exercise.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)He said, 'that's a new one!', as he laughed out loud. I do occasionally do little warmups on the practice board, or do soft warmups with wife or daughter, [easy lofting hitable balls over the nets]. Like the movement, balances a very little my injury avoiding gym work.
Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Especially the riff on Tiger at the end.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Shot 81-83 pretty consistently. Never could break 80 with any regularity. At a score of 85, you were a better than average golfer, average is around 95 for 18 holes.
The problem with shooting in the low 80s (85 is low 80s) is that you run into the mental wall of the game, it is no longer just physical. What I mean is you have to know when it is best to use say a 3-wood or 2-iron off the tee instead of a driver, that decisionmaking is what separates a low 80s golfer from people that shoot in the 70s and 60s consistently. Golf is also a game where you can't let the first wheel come off because then, low 80s golfers start pressing to make up the last bad hole and get themselves in trouble. If I taught a child, I would drill into him or her to forget what happened on the last hole and focus entirely on how to most effectively play the hole that they will tee off on.
brush
(53,764 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)People watch the pros maneuver the ball on command and brainstorm that there's nothing to it.
Meanwhile, just making contact is difficult enough. There are so many variables into making that club hit that ball in precisely the correct spot and at the proper angle.
That is the reason top pros from other sports are in absolute awe of professional golfers. They have mastered anything they have attempted athletically but fail miserably at golf.
Millennials generally suck at golf compared to earlier generations. They dismiss is as not worth their time because it takes too long to play. But I've always believed they think it is supposed to be simple like all those push-button games they grew up with, and that is hardly the case.
Anyway, I'm a huge fan of Phil Mickelson after watching him on the course for more than two decades. He is the only guy out there who makes regular eye contact with the gallery all day long, with the sheepish grin and actually responding to comments from the gallery. Tiger, in comparison, is an absolute zombie out there, forced to pretend he doesn't see or hear anything. It is beyond pathetic. It is laughable.
First time I saw Phil on the course was at Desert Inn in Las Vegas in the '90s. He stayed after a range session and chatted with the handful of spectators for more than a half hour. Amy was there and participated also.
Phil did make a huge mistake getting connected with Billy Walters, who is nothing but a life long crook. I could tell countless stories about that from first hand knowledge. Walters doesn't do anything without an unfair advantage. So if Phil traded stocks with Walters' advice, there is no question that insider trading was involved. Phil was fortunate to escape further scrutiny there.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)He stopped playing to be with his wife when she developed cancer. He spends extensive time with his kids.
It was fun to watch The Match because it was goofy. I was rooting for Phil and it was terrific to see the two of them agree that the match had to be won with a birdie.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)I've been pretty athletic my whole life. I played competitive baseball, football, track, wrestling, sailing and running.
Golf is fiendishly difficult and frustrating. It's also wonderful!
dameatball
(7,396 posts)MLAA
(17,282 posts)Rebl2
(13,492 posts)for golf or either of these men.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Not only did a good friend play basketball with him (before he was famous) and say he was a complete jerk but his sponsors are the worst - Exxon and Bearing Point. Bearing Point was the "consultant group" who got paid to sign off on pretty much all the gross waste and abuse in Iraq.
If you want to know about Phil these days just consider that he was advised and agreed that this "Air Mickelson" logo (my name for it) was a good idea.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)It's an iconic moment from Phil's career: he had just won the Masters.
underpants
(182,769 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)I remember when he made $46 million in one year but was upset that he had to pay $13,000 in Social Security Taxes.
Greedy and entitled.