#WhitePrivilege

[Soph0571]

Link to tweet

White supremacy is schools citing free speech when kids praise Nazism but threaten punishment when kids condemn racism.

THIS

[JonLP24]

1. K&R

[dalton99a]

2. Kick

[yardwork]

3. Kick

[lunamagica]

4. K&R for visibility.

[Stellar]

5. I guess it's all up to the Orange thing in the Whitehouse...

..haven't heard a peep out of him.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

15. Better watch what you say, Stellar....

tRump's DOJ will be after us for prejudice against orange people.....

[Stellar]

17. 😂 nuf said!

[sarge43]

6. K&R n/t

[ck4829]

7. K&R

[oberliner]

8. He has argued that Nazis do not deserve free speech

Do folks agree with that?

[Garrett78]

10. Nazism incites violence, which is supposed to not be legal.

Whereas anti-racism is about equal rights and stopping violence.

Not equivalent.

I'm reminded of those who think denying rights of LGBTQ persons should be just as free to do so as those fighting for the rights of LGBTQ persons.

[oberliner]

13. Hate speech is legally protected in the United States

The only exception is when it is directed towards inciting imminent lawless activity.

[Garrett78]

14. Inciting violence is its purpose.

[oberliner]

16. Does saying "Republicans are evil and must be stopped" incite violence?

Would you put that in the category of hate speech that ought to be banned?

[marble falls]

22. Why isn't yelling "fire" protected free speech? Why are there "hate predicates" to crimes of ...

violence that increase the punishment if one uses what you call "free speech"?

[ismnotwasm]

11. Hate speech you mean?

Inciting violence kind of speech? The racist equivalent of yelling fire in a movie theater? Fuck no they don’t.

[oberliner]

12. Yes

Hate speech is currently legally protected in the United States.

You don't think it should be?

[Soph0571]

18. Hate speech is currently legally protected in the United States.

Luckily for me I am from the UK - we hate the fucking haters that use hate speech - that shit is not protected, and it should not be. One of the advantages of having an unwritten constitution is that it changes as time changes.

[ProudLib72]

19. How progressive!

Oh the irony is killing me.

[Soph0571]

21. Please explain why you think this ironic?

I do not see irony in protecting hate speech - I see a get out clause for haters

[ProudLib72]

23. The founding fathers created a constitution that was meant to protect its people from tyranny

Yet all these years later, it's British parliament that is more progressive in limiting hate speech, while we in the US are hamstrung by the Constitution.

You probably thought I was mocking, but I wasn't.

[ck4829]

25. It's crazy that we even have to put Hate Speech next to the THOUGHT CRIME of taking a knee

[Kaleva]

20. Yelling fire in a crowded movie theater isn't against the law.

The Supreme Court reversed itself on this back in 1969.

"In 1969, the Supreme Court's decision in Brandenburg v. Ohio effectively overturned Schenck and any authority the case still carried. There, the Court held that inflammatory speech--and even speech advocating violence by members of the Ku Klux Klan--is protected under the First Amendment, unless the speech "is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action" (emphasis mine)."

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/11/its-time-to-stop-using-the-fire-in-a-crowded-theater-quote/264449/

[ck4829]

24. Do they? Why don't we let ISIS broadcast propaganda into the US?

Both are at war against our country. I wonder white the difference between ISIS and Neo-Nazis is.

[oberliner]

30. Are you talking about American citizens who support ISIS?

[LanternWaste]

27. Are you to list all his positions?

Are you to list all his positions?

Or merely the irrelevant ones to better maintain the pretense that logical fallacies such your Questionable Cause are allegedly germane to the original point being made?

Do folks agree with that? (wow... more petulance, part II)

[oberliner]

29. Just the one I thought would make for an interesting discussion

It's a tricky topic and I know that there are strong arguments all around.

What are your thoughts?

[ismnotwasm]

9. Yup.

J&R

[uponit7771]

26. K&R,

[Afromania]

28. exactly

[jcmaine72]

31. We need hate speech laws in this country.

We're so far behind the genuinely progressive nations of the world on this subject it's really sad. But what else can one expect from a nation where about 46% of its population is both stupid and hateful enough to vote for the orange gargoyle.

Hate speech is an act of violence. Violence isn't protected under the First Amendment last I checked, but, whatever....