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malaise

(268,949 posts)
3. Only a medical disaster will stop these
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:46 PM
Nov 2018

irresponsible greedy fuckers. I hope it hits their families.

dlk

(11,558 posts)
4. Go MAGA - What "Freeing" Americans from "Oppressive" Regulations Really Means to All of Us
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 05:49 PM
Nov 2018

Sickened by a deadly strain of E. Coli - thank you, GOP. It's high time this ridiculous propaganda gets called out.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
5. Did this change in rules start in 2017? Just wondering.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:01 PM
Nov 2018

I have a couple of relatives that work in the FDA and there has been steady corporate-led attempts to knee-cap regulations. Money can be made an effective weapon when ethics are not strong.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
7. Reason #1,977,416,025 why you never ever vote for a conservative.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:24 PM
Nov 2018

They always choose instant money over long-term failure.

BlueInRedHell

(100 posts)
8. I remember reading (yrs. ago) that one company that was responsible for a major E. coli r/o
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:35 PM
Nov 2018

outbreak had been using the irrigation ditch water to "wash" the romaine and that their version of triple washing involved washing the romaine in the same nasty water three times. I question whether companies may have returned to some of those old policies thinking that they could get away with it under Trump.

Lack of sanitary facilities for the pickers, antibiotic over-use in livestock and the resultant run-off, all-around bad practices, and lack of water testing have certainly put us all in a highly unsafe situation.

TexasTowelie

(112,128 posts)
10. Interesting theory, but I wonder what proof Dr. Gu has?
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 06:38 PM
Nov 2018

The Wikipedia article on him isn't the most flattering and on some RW sites he is also mentioned as a cyber-bully.

TexasTowelie

(112,128 posts)
16. Dr. Gu has an interesting hypothesis,
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:42 PM
Nov 2018

but the CDC guidance doesn't provide any proof that the outbreak is related to contaminated irrigation water. Dr. Gu's hypothesis would hold more credibility if there were clinical studies to support it or at least scientific studies indicating that the amount of fecal matter in the irrigation water has increased.

I regret if it sounds like a doubting Thomas, but as someone with a minor in chemistry, the doctor hasn't met the standard of proof for his allegations.

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TexasTowelie

(112,128 posts)
20. So having 30 hours of chemistry and wanting to see scientific evidence
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 08:12 PM
Nov 2018

because someone with a questionable reputation posts a questionable hypothesis on Twitter makes me a denialist?



No, I don't live in Egypt. However, I would have never passed those 46 hours of science classes as an undergrad if I didn't ask questions and evaluate scientific research. Maybe the doctor is correct and maybe he isn't, but just because he has an "MD" after his name doesn't mean he is an authority on the subject or that he has proven a cause-and-effect relationship.

If there is no proof to the doctor's statements, then simply state so--there is nothing to be gained by calling me names or making personal attacks. If there is proof, then feel free to post a link to it.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
15. I am sure this is the tip of the iceberg.
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:40 PM
Nov 2018

The GOP want to bankrupt and kill us, both together is their preference (faster).

Whoever is the next POTUS will have to clean up the GOP messes AGAIN! And of course without getting or taking any credit for it.

NotASurfer

(2,149 posts)
18. AKA "Trumpcare"
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 07:45 PM
Nov 2018

Driving down medical costs by winnowing the gene pool

Except of course if you can afford to pay for the cure

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