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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:21 AM Nov 2018

Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as 'Human Shields'

One lies, this one swears to it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kirstjen-nielsen-gassed-border-children-were-being-used-as-human-shields?ref=home

1. DOUBLING DOWN2 hours ago
Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as ‘Human Shields’
Reuters / Kim Kyung-Hoon


The Trump administration is doubling down on its use of tear gas on women and children at the Mexican border, with Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen speculating without evidence that vulnerable people were used as “human shields” by migrants. Shocking photographs showed border agents deploying tear gas against people seeking asylum in the U.S. on Sunday, including young girls wearing diapers. In a lengthy statement late Monday, Nielsen speculated the women and children were used tactically by a migrant group. “It appears in some cases that the limited number of women and children in the caravan are being used by the organizers as ‘human shields’ when they confront law enforcement,” she wrote on Facebook. “They are being put at risk by the caravan organizers as we saw at the Mexico-Guatemala border. This is putting vulnerable people in harm’s way.” The unverified allegation is similar to one offered by President Trump on Monday evening, when he said “grabbers” take children to protect themselves from harm.
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Kirstjen Nielsen: Gassed Border Children Were Being Used as 'Human Shields' (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2018 OP
She's fookin' despicable. octoberlib Nov 2018 #1
Even if true, vlyons Nov 2018 #2
Exactly. MrsCoffee Nov 2018 #9
What do you mean by "even if true?" allgood33 Nov 2018 #16
Even if true implies vlyons Nov 2018 #19
I wonder why this individual Sherman A1 Nov 2018 #3
she's as disgusting as the man who hired her. spanone Nov 2018 #4
This argument reminds me of another country with border issues superpatriotman Nov 2018 #5
along with accusations of rock throwing treestar Nov 2018 #8
Spin everything superpatriotman Nov 2018 #13
Cruella with the yellow hair has no credibility. nt deminks Nov 2018 #6
A human shield against tear gas? Jim__ Nov 2018 #7
What a steaming load of right-wing propaganda bullshit. VOX Nov 2018 #10
Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS is full of shit. GoCubsGo Nov 2018 #11
... Celerity Nov 2018 #15
Reichsfuhrer Nielsen: I was just following the orders of mein fuhrer Trump workinclasszero Nov 2018 #17
she wil be in front of a house committee in 6 weeks to explain to the american people on camera beachbum bob Nov 2018 #12
YES! workinclasszero Nov 2018 #14
Ms. To-Prison-for-Those-Who-Boycott-Israel Hortensis Nov 2018 #18
Do you suppose the Mexican government is assisting Thump on this? peekaloo Nov 2018 #20
Hm. Let's say I don't suspect Mexico of assisting Trump. Hortensis Nov 2018 #21
I wonder if she's still on Trump's cut list. In fact, the whole he's changing everyone sort of went Johonny Nov 2018 #22
 

allgood33

(1,584 posts)
16. What do you mean by "even if true?"
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:28 AM
Nov 2018

How the f**k do you use anyone as a human shield against tear gas? Everyone has to breathe for themselves.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
10. What a steaming load of right-wing propaganda bullshit.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:54 AM
Nov 2018

They ALWAYS blame the weak, the victim, the innocent, and the non-existent.

A Republican will suddenly punch you in the jaw, then complain that you put your face right in front of their hand, and thus they have no choice but to bring criminal charges.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
11. Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS is full of shit.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:57 AM
Nov 2018

What's even worse than her lie is the fact that she thinks that it makes it justifiable to hurl tear gas tat toddlers.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
12. she wil be in front of a house committee in 6 weeks to explain to the american people on camera
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 08:59 AM
Nov 2018

how gassing women and children is acceptable response

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. YES!
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 09:08 AM
Nov 2018

I want to see this nazi explain to the American people how these "dangerous" children in diapers were such a deadly threat to Trump's Gestapo that they were forced to gas them!!!!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Ms. To-Prison-for-Those-Who-Boycott-Israel
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:43 AM
Nov 2018

could be right. (Gillebrand's shocking S.720, Israel Anti-Boycott Act)

I don't know what happened here, but I do know that pushing women and children to the front in hopes that'll force opponents to hold off attack is a common tactic. Remember the Bundy standoff when those armed men put unarmed women, and I believe maybe even children, between them and federal agents?

I've been wondering how it is 5000 people arrived so soon when these groups would typically take most of another month to get to San Diego. That's also several hundred miles farther than the nearest TX border crossing.

There's obviously organization here, perhaps more than just from that migrant aid group who couldn't begin to provide transportation for thousands before this. It's also reasonable to suspect that troublemaking agents may have infiltrated this group with a very different agenda from those so desperate that they set out for a little 3000-mile walk with their children, if not children themselves.

peekaloo

(22,977 posts)
20. Do you suppose the Mexican government is assisting Thump on this?
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 10:59 AM
Nov 2018

I saw a CBS report last night with truckloads of migrants being escorted to Tijuana. While the journalist's focus was on one young woman from Honduras it seemed strange they were being rerouted to the California border.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Hm. Let's say I don't suspect Mexico of assisting Trump.
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:33 AM
Nov 2018

Mexico has its own huge problems with immigration and migration and now also huge problems with Rump and the U.S. I'm pretty sure both Pena Nieto and Lopez Obrador must regard him with profound contempt and distrust, something they have in common.

Johonny

(20,840 posts)
22. I wonder if she's still on Trump's cut list. In fact, the whole he's changing everyone sort of went
Tue Nov 27, 2018, 11:41 AM
Nov 2018

away funny. huh

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