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What the FUCK?
Sen. Chuck Schumer tells reporters at his on-cam presser that Democrats position is $1.6 billion for wall funding - far less than the $5 billion Trump wants - but he wont say if Democrats are shutting the door on anything more, saying hes not going to negotiate in public.
Link to tweet
Blue Owl
(50,330 posts)Jesus Fucking Christ...
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Schumer, giving it all away as usual.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Response to tenderfoot (Original post)
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NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And is far below the costs of actually putting a wall on the entire border. Schumer and other Democratic leadership had already agreed to the 1.6 figure.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)more customs agents, border patrol, etc. but, no wall
grantcart
(53,061 posts)like around Calexico/Mexicali, San Ysidro and Douglas
These are areas where the residential neighborhoods actually abut the border and existing fencing isn't adequate.
The 1.6 billion also involves increased night vision capability and tunnel detection tools that are more relevant that building walls in rural areas.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)Makes it sounds like democrats are supportive of this stupid racist wall.
JHan
(10,173 posts)Schumer's counter to Trump is in line with the original request by the administration ( specifically for border security) https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/DHS%20BIB%202019.pdf for "Border Security" which is 1.6 billion. LAst year 1.3 billion was appropriated I believe.
And the federal government is on a Continuing Resolution through to December 7.
Trump will threaten a government shutdown if Congress wont give him all that he wants and he will use "caravan invasion" hysteria to ram in as much funding as he can and the Republicans will try to get as much as they can until Democrats control the house in January.
so I don't get the outrage against Schumer in particular in this case.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)It's important to note that this is a tweet from not Chuck Schumer. It's noticeably short on details, as evidenced by the spectrum of responses here. It's hard to say exactly what Schumer said or meant, or if he has some additional cards up his sleeve.
In any case, the hammering out of the remainder of the budget by Dec. 8 when the latest continuing resolution expires is all on the Republicans. Republicans still control the House, the Senate, and the White House. If they can't put together a deal and the government shuts down, it's all on them. Democrats don't have any say or leverage in the matter, and any failures are completely on the Republicans.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)And the agreements made are to get them. All or nothing just gets us nothing.
former9thward
(31,964 posts)The Senate needs 60 votes for the budget. For a budget to pass some Democratic votes are needed. It is the same as 2009-2011 when Democrats held the Senate and needed Republican votes for the budget.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Then his demented minions will rise up and cheer.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)would pay for the wall. There should not be one penny of Tax Payer money going for that wall. Let the Corporations Trump and Republicans gave $1.5 TRILLION to pay for the wall and name it on their behalf.
See how fast they line up to shovel out the $50 or so Billion Trump wants.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,309 posts)Schumer does not impress me.
Sanity Claws
(21,846 posts)Fuck off Schumer
Squinch
(50,934 posts)And I am his constituent.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,568 posts)There should be no wall, and not even any debate until the Trump concentration camps are closed and all families reunified.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)like this. What gives?!
Retrograde
(10,132 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Trump even said so.
Did you forget?
at140
(6,110 posts)Is that enough to compensate cost of the wall?
knowing how Trump lies, the new NAFTA is probably making Mexican more money.
ananda
(28,856 posts)WTF is wrong with Schumer and the Dems?????
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)If there was a drive to replace Schumer with someone like, say Chris Murphy for example, I'd have to listen. But instead the push has been to go after Pelosi for some gobbledygook reason related to "change."
at140
(6,110 posts)just use his own money to build it? He claims to be very rich, so why not?
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)maybe you shouldn't be saying anything in public?
Not a fan.
Freethinker65
(10,008 posts)Fund for monitoring and manpower if necessary to not be labeled "soft on borders", but insist NO money for the wall.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)bluestarone
(16,894 posts)Not ONE PENNY for that FN wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)That would be speaker Pelosi, and that aint never gonna happen.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)S-C-R-E-W them....every last one of them.
They have ruined America. Enough!
onenote
(42,675 posts)MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)24/7 outrage
Basement Beat
(659 posts)to replace all of the pipes.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Speaking of negotiating in public Mr. Schumer, what was that?
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)Ugh.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)the fee for the licence which I'd appreciate you put up yourself.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,013 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)so it would be a negotiation, not a gift.
if they can solve some issues like daca and get the snatched children back to their families it would be worth it to start discussions.
OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)elleng
(130,834 posts)say NOTHING.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)There, how's that for a deal?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)On edit, I was going to fix the typo, but maybe, I don't know. Let me know what you think.
Cha
(297,034 posts)fascistrump said Mexico would pay for the fucking wall.. hold him to his campaign promise why don't ya?
renate
(13,776 posts)It's not going to do squat, anyway. Let him waste a few taxpayer dollars on his stupid wall if it means getting a positive change in immigration policy in return.
If we don't get anything in return for that money, though, forget it.
Edited: All we get in exchange is no government shutdown? Nuts to that. If the government shuts down, it's on them, not us. Let them own it. Government shutdowns have a great history of working out well for Republicans.
tavernier
(12,374 posts)No.
tavernier
(12,374 posts)that we do not negotiate with terrorists.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)because the centrusts are so used to giving the enemy at least half the fucking loaf...
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)GOP did not get more seats with a map like that. If you want a majority, you need moderates to run in red or purple states...that is a fact. And if you look at the senate realistically and study history, you will find we have never had a majority without a big tent that includes moderates. Without the Senate,we will get no judges.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)worthy of being defended, we are talking abut the WALL.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)us see what happens. The attacks on Schumer are only too typical and IMHO wrong (not saying you did this).
Takket
(21,550 posts)still_one
(92,115 posts)Initially said. He never said he supported building the wall, and the tweet didnt indicate if thatt question was asked
But this gives an excellent opportunity to bash Schumer
Tomorrow maybe there will be an opportunity to blast Feinstein. Looks like the Pelosi bashing has quieted down when it was poi ted out she is actually has pushed for progressive policies all her life
Hint, so has Feinstein
It is so interesting to watch the pile for assuming things that werent said
There isnt going to be a wall, votes arent there
Marthe48
(16,927 posts)n/t
Hotler
(11,412 posts)Dems showing weakness before entering the starting gate. Geez! I have no hope. I see no future.
diva77
(7,639 posts)things I'm not aware of as well...
Why?????
DFW
(54,330 posts)In Texas, we would be singing about the wall: "money for nothing and hicks for free."