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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 02:02 PM Nov 2018

Experts Agree: Robert Mueller Just Played Donald Trump Like a Fiddle


by Colin Kalmbacher | 11:02 am, November 29th, 2018

President Donald Trump‘s longtime lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty on Thursday to making several false statements in front of Congress. During an early morning appearance at a downtown Manhattan courthouse, Cohen admitted to making intentionally false statements about several matters related to Trump’s business dealings. This turn of events suggests that Robert Mueller intentionally leveled a surprise attack against the 45th president of the United States.

Why’s that? It’s all about the timeline here.

President Trump just last week submitted a series of written answers to several questions posed by the special counsel’s office. These questions were strictly related to one prong of Mueller’s wide-ranging inquiry: Russian electoral interference during the 2016 presidential campaign. That is, Trump’s answers about alleged obstruction of justice have yet to be received–and are not expected to be provided in written form for that matter.

Cohen’s plea more or less comes immediately after Mueller’s team took the time to review Trump’s on the record statements–statements made under penalty of perjury. And legal experts say that’s no coincidence.

CNN legal analyst Ross Garber was one of the first to raise the timing issue via Twitter.

“Timing of Cohen plea (right after Trump turned in answers) may be more than coincidental,” he wrote. “Mueller might not have wanted to tip his hand before answers were provided.”

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Experts Agree: Robert Mueller Just Played Donald Trump Like a Fiddle (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2018 OP
K&R thbobby Nov 2018 #1
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😀👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😃 GWC58 Nov 2018 #2
Perjury trap!!!! Dream Girl Nov 2018 #3
"to the 'best' of my recollection" Native Nov 2018 #14
He has repeatedly bragged about his great memory. Rorey Nov 2018 #31
I think unlikely. You can say "to the best ... Whiskeytide Nov 2018 #33
It's not a trap when a person is lying, it's due diligence. nt Blue_true Nov 2018 #40
I'm sick of this pResidency SHRED Nov 2018 #4
PREACH! Raster Nov 2018 #29
Psst, Donnie: if you want to avoid a perjury trap, don't lie! Hassler Nov 2018 #5
Yeah, Like That Advice Has Any Chance Of Being Heeded ProfessorGAC Nov 2018 #6
Me too except DownriverDem Nov 2018 #9
Pence is in this up to his eyeballs. He'll go down with Pres. Turd. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #11
Amen Perseus Nov 2018 #16
Not just Pence RocRizzo55 Nov 2018 #25
As have I... the Congressional GOP* is virtually awash in Russian* dark money... Raster Nov 2018 #30
+1 Totally. Very visibly obstructing justice. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #34
Then, if both tRump and pEnce go... FarPoint Nov 2018 #36
BINGO! lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #37
I thought that Pelosi RocRizzo55 Nov 2018 #41
This is what can happen with resignations... FarPoint Nov 2018 #42
It could happen with Fuckin' Hunter in CA. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #45
Paul Manafort is the one who wanted Pence OMGWTF Nov 2018 #44
Pence may appear sane, but there's a reason he never entered the primaries bigbrother05 Nov 2018 #23
great analyzing trixie2 Nov 2018 #28
I think Gerald Ford would disagree tparrett62 Nov 2018 #27
That's a habit TxVietVet Nov 2018 #20
I don't think he is capable of telling the truth. Chemisse Nov 2018 #43
"I was asked a series of questions" Mr. Ected Nov 2018 #7
Read it again! MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #8
When the media mentions Cohen ScratchCat Nov 2018 #12
That's a very good point nt renate Nov 2018 #15
Echo that. Cohen may be a snake, but his client hired him to lie/cheat/intimidate. erronis Nov 2018 #17
I've always wondered if maybe Cohen wasn't the brains of the outfit all along. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2018 #38
I think they're talking about Rudy Giuliani FakeNoose Nov 2018 #35
Cohen-oscopy. Trump is Manafucked. lagomorph777 Nov 2018 #10
"Cohen-oscopy" MyOwnPeace Nov 2018 #13
Oh dear. My online spill-chucker just had two words added. Thanks! erronis Nov 2018 #18
I sense an oncoming, epic case of dire-ria for the Orange Anus* Raster Nov 2018 #32
Fiddle? More like a big fat cello. tinrobot Nov 2018 #19
I see the fbi just raided tRumps tax attorneys office in Chicago nt mastermind Nov 2018 #21
Mueller and his team are letting them duforsure Nov 2018 #22
How do you get over the past the both Cohen and Trump are liars? lancelyons Nov 2018 #24
Mueller dropped the Cohen plea right after the Manafort reversal to show who was really played bigbrother05 Nov 2018 #26
What really happened is team manafort provided their lies to trump Kahuna7 Nov 2018 #39

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
31. He has repeatedly bragged about his great memory.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:09 PM
Nov 2018

It's funny to see him backed into a corner. It's even funnier that he helped Mueller back him into that corner.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
33. I think unlikely. You can say "to the best ...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:13 PM
Nov 2018

... of my recollection" I don't believe I ever spoke with Boris or Natasha in person.

But It's hard to say "to the best of my recollection I never tried to have business dealings in Russia" when you undertook a massive campaign to license your name there, and then actively took steps to cover it up. There are some things you just can't deny any recollection about - at least not with any credibility.

Especially with trump's big brain and all. Reagan's " Uhh,.. well, ...I uhh, ...heh heh, well..., I just don't, uhhh ... when I, uhhh... now, what was the question again?" defense won't suit the very stable genius very well.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
6. Yeah, Like That Advice Has Any Chance Of Being Heeded
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:02 PM
Nov 2018

Lying and breathing are autonomic responses for little PINO.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
25. Not just Pence
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:00 PM
Nov 2018

But the whole GOP is up to their eyeballs in this. The Party leadership knew everything that was going on, and many members of the Party took rubles. The rest of them knew about it and said nothing. Therefore the entire party is guilty. I have been saying this for months now.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
30. As have I... the Congressional GOP* is virtually awash in Russian* dark money...
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:09 PM
Nov 2018

...at this point in time, the $64,000 question is NOT "who took Russian* money," but who didn't.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
41. I thought that Pelosi
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 07:36 PM
Nov 2018

has stated that she was not for impeachment, so I would not bet the ranch on that. Nothing says that the current "leaders" could not serve while in jail. Remember when there was a candidate for president who was in jail? No? I guess that you are bit too young to remember that Eugene Debs ran for president and got nearly 900,000 votes. So I guess if someone could run from jail, they could also serve from jail. Not saying that this is right or wrong, just that it is.

OMGWTF

(3,951 posts)
44. Paul Manafort is the one who wanted Pence
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:51 PM
Nov 2018

If both of these rat bastard traitors are removed then Nancy Pelosi becomes president.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
23. Pence may appear sane, but there's a reason he never entered the primaries
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 04:52 PM
Nov 2018

He doesn't have the chops to pull off the long con.

The Donald was born into it and is surrounded by career criminals.

tparrett62

(268 posts)
27. I think Gerald Ford would disagree
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:06 PM
Nov 2018

The stink of Trump's misdeeds will cling like dogshit to Pence's heels, even if he somehow escapes going to jail with the Orange fucker. Ford paid the price for Nixon's misdeeds, and Pence will do the same, IF he's lucky enough to still be a player by 2020.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
43. I don't think he is capable of telling the truth.
Fri Nov 30, 2018, 01:28 PM
Nov 2018

And I expect that to be part of his defense someday.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
7. "I was asked a series of questions"
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:09 PM
Nov 2018

I answered them all very easily. Very easily.


LOL...and you lied just as easily!

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
8. Read it again!
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:10 PM
Nov 2018

THIS is from a former solicitor general of the United States and law professor at Georgetown:


"the Mueller probe has now resulted in the guilty conviction of the President’s former top lawyer."


THE PRESIDENT'S LAWYER!!!!!!!

GUILTY!!!!!!!!


ONLY THE BEST!!!

ScratchCat

(1,988 posts)
12. When the media mentions Cohen
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:27 PM
Nov 2018

They need to - every time - note that he has plead guilty for crimes committed on behalf of his client, Donald Trump. It otherwise sounds like he just committed crimes. But they were for the gain of his client, Donald Trump.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
17. Echo that. Cohen may be a snake, but his client hired him to lie/cheat/intimidate.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 04:22 PM
Nov 2018

Every time Cohen is mentioned, his consigliere should be acknowledged.

(I've always wondered how the toad could stiff anyone - maybe Michael has the real balls.)

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
38. I've always wondered if maybe Cohen wasn't the brains of the outfit all along.
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 06:02 PM
Nov 2018

All Rump ever had to do was say "I WANT" and Michael would trot off to figure out how to Make It So. Cohen seems more comfortable behind the scenes, Rumpy requires the spotlight. Rump had the name and the mystique, Cohen had the brains. A symbiotic relationship, if there ever was one.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
35. I think they're talking about Rudy Giuliani
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:45 PM
Nov 2018

This whole "defense compact" was his idea, and he's the one who engineered it. So now they have Rudy on obstruction of justice too, in addition to Cheeto and the whole group. It's going to be one happy family in prison with adjoining cells!

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
13. "Cohen-oscopy"
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 03:48 PM
Nov 2018

OH MY GAWD!!!!!!!!!!

IQ45 just had one, didn't he?

THAT should be the Oxford Dictionary WORD OF THE YEAR!!!!!!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. Mueller and his team are letting them
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 04:51 PM
Nov 2018

Walk into their own traps now, and expect a lot more to become exposed and they're trapped even more by their own making. This crime family is going down.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
24. How do you get over the past the both Cohen and Trump are liars?
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 04:56 PM
Nov 2018

Mueller would have to have documentation that proves what Trump lied about and what Cohen admitted too.

testimony from Cohen wont do much harm to trump by itself

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
26. Mueller dropped the Cohen plea right after the Manafort reversal to show who was really played
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 05:02 PM
Nov 2018

The whole double agent meme re: Manafort was the GOP congratulating themselves on how the Shitgibbon had played Mueller.

This latest on Cohen is timed to Trump (pun intended) their celebration and ruin the G20 victory lap.

Don't expect to see any open interviews in Argentina and he'll be sitting at the kiddy table if he shows his face at all.

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
39. What really happened is team manafort provided their lies to trump
Thu Nov 29, 2018, 06:28 PM
Nov 2018

so that trumps testimony would line up. However, because manafort and trump's testimony lined up and Mueller knew manafort was lying, trump fell into a perjury trap. Cohen today was just adding insult to injury.

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