Amount of space required to transport the same number of passengers by car, bus or bicycle.

[marmar]

[rfranklin]

1. Now I know where the Munster family hails from!

This is exciting! And now we have Eddie running for VP!

[1-Old-Man]

2. Is there a point to this? Are we running out of space?

[marmar]

3. Efficiency of different modes of transport is the point. I didn't think it was that obtuse a concept

nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

6. Nice, sunny days are also efficient but not always dependable.

And then there are those who live in the country but work in the city. Actually, there are probably more variables than that but they elude me; which is probably the most important point of all -- we can neither anticipate nor dictate every circumstance of every person's life.

[marmar]

8. "we can neither anticipate nor dictate every circumstance of every person's life"

Presenting information is trying to dictate every circumstance of every person's life?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

9. Unless the information presented is for the sake of idle trivia

it seems the intent is to say "This over that." Is there any intent of passing laws or regulations based on this information or using public assets?

[marmar]

11. It seems that some people just like to argue.

nt

[Nuclear Unicorn]

13. I'm not arguing but now I am genuinely curious.

What was the point of the OP if not the entire project of staging, shooting and publishing that poster?

Is there any intent to pass laws or spend public funds or was it simply some bemusing but idle trivia?

[1-Old-Man]

7. What is it about using less space that is more efficient?

I can see how using less fuel would be more efficient but I can't see how using less space is.

On Edit: Consider this, efficieny in performing a task is measured by the amount of consumable resource required to accomplish the task. Space is not consumed in the process of moving people.

[Fumesucker]

10. Road space costs money and takes energy to create and maintain..

Plus roadway damage increases roughly as the fourth power of vehicle weight so a vehicle that weighs twice as much does 2^4 power or 16 times as much and a vehicle that weighs 10 times as much causes 10^4 times or 10,000 times the damage per mile traveled.

Bicycle + rider = ~200 lbs while a very light car would be ~2000 lbs..

[Nuclear Unicorn]

14. We should definitely be

breeding lighter bicycle riders.

[Fumesucker]

15. No breeding necessary, ride a bike and lose weight..

The more you ride the more you lose.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

17. You obviously haven't

seen that cop who peddles around the city park.

[Fumesucker]

18. What is he peddling?

I hope he has a license for that..

[Enrique]

4. yes, actually

roads are being widened all the time, which is very costly. Also accidents occur all the time, that's how a lot of people die, that is a function of lack of space.

[1-Old-Man]

21. How about the speed at which they move, is that a function of efficiency?

I ask because as I recall the British determined that for every foot you widen a road people will travel 10 mph faster on it. Time, as opposed to space, is a consumable resource.

[99Forever]

5. Fine.

Let me know when they start running buses closer than twenty miles from our home and design a bicycle that can travel through a foot + of snow and -20 degrees into a 40 mph wind.


Mmmmk?

[Fumesucker]

12. Heh.. I have neighbors that get in their car to go 100 yards to the mailbox..

[Luminous Animal]

16. Do you have a government? Petition it. Government services are

often the result of active involvement of those who would benefit from those services.

[99Forever]

23. Oh yeah..

.. that'll get it done.

BTW, the bus service that does exist here, is getting cut back, NOT expanded. You know, "austerity and all that."


Any more suggestions? (Like some that have a chance in hell of succeeding?)

[Luminous Animal]

24. That's the spirit! Give up before you started...

It took activists more than 20 years to transform the bicycle infrastructure in San Francisco and we are not quite there yet.

[99Forever]

25. Sorry, friend...

... but some of us have more immediate and important problems on our plates. But feel free to try and lay some more utopian guilt on me, it works so well.

[ileus]

19. why not put 50 buses loaded with one person.

[On the Road]

20. I Agree With the Concept --

If the drivers and passengers in all those cars had the same origin and destination, it would be much more efficient for them to take the bus.

[HopeHoops]

22. US Solution: ban roads.

[Egalitarian Thug]

26. The vitriol incited by this simple and obvious observation is saying something quite interesting

about a few of the people here.

"Extremism in the name of authority and the status quo is no vice". - anonymous Democrat(?)

[Trillo]

27. Seems to be three different "zoom" levels.

The middle picture with the bus appears most zoomed out, with more roofs (reddish) visible. The right picture is zoomed in, less of the roofs are visible. The left picture of the cars, is zoomed in the most, with very little roof area visible.

This is also confirmed by the size of the people and the widths of the road.

[datasuspect]

28. here's the deal

Uhhhmerica is very large country.

i know tv likes to film in LA, Chicago, Toronto, and NYC, but this doesn't mean that we all live in a dense, urban area.

Uhhhhmerica is a mostly rural, spread out country.

Now, when you're out in the country, suburbs, or exburbs (save your opinion - these places exist and people live there) you have to drive significant distances to get places.

when you factor in that all of us aren't students, trustafarians, or urban "funemployed" artistic types, PLUS some of us have jobs where we have to dress like grown ups and transact business with other grown ups . . . you see where I'm going? yeah - you could ride a bike 20 miles to get to a business meeting, but the other business people might not react well to your sweat soaked self or your odor.

it would be nice if they brought interurbans or a rail system back, but it probably won't happen until we run out of fossil fuels.

but bicycles as the answer to all the world's ills is simply childish.

[Dreamer Tatum]

29. Very useful info for those times when everyone is going to the same place

at the same time, carrying nothing, in good weather conditions, with plans that won't change, and no
specific preferences for privacy or comfort.

ie, never.