Oh Jesus: Trump's going to have to speak at his funeral

[Recursion]

They've kicked him out of a lot of funerals, but you have to have the sitting President deliver the main eulogy to a former President. This is going to be a fiasco.

[UniteFightBack]

1. Nope we are in the moment of breaking norms and 'protocols so rump can stay in his damn

room and do his usual routine.....which is watching it on TV.

[Kaleva]

2. I don't think there's a law that requires it.

[TrollBuster9090]

3. A hundred bucks says he's not invited.

It'll be McCain part II.

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Since this was a former President, he will have to be invited

this is different from a Senator.

[malaise]

24. That no longer matters since the vile MAGAcretin became President

He violates laws, conventions and precedents.

Indeed Poppy broke a convention as well. He was the first head of the CIA to become President.
For this reason, I am often amused when I hear that Putin was KGB head.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. The old blue blood class will still invite him

because of the "protocol", but that doesn't mean he'll actually speak since he is from the trash class.

And yeah, Poppy had the goods on everyone and probably even had info on Pootie when he first joined the KGB (which happened around the time he was CIA Director), way before Pootie became a big shot.

[GWC58]

36. Trump is the only president I've ever heard

totally disrespect his predecessor. That norm is now gone, at least for the next two years.

[Dave Starsky]

30. And he'll have to sit with the Obamas and the Clintons.

That's going to be fun.

They're going to have to shoot him full of horse tranquilizers beforehand.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. Oh no.....

They will find a way to put a whole pile of people, including Quayle & family and Darth & family, in between to separate them.

[Dave Starsky]

34. I forgot all about Dan Quayle. Hadn't thought of him in years.

I never would have believed that we would have a clown in the White House who makes Dan Quayle look like Sir Winston Churchill.

[BumRushDaShow]

37. It boggles the mind, don't it?

He was a Drumpf/Pence supporter too!



and showed up with the parade of people at Drumpf Tower accompanied by the Nutcracker Queen!

[FarPoint]

28. I tend to agreee with you on this....

Let's see how tRump covers up his no-invitation....

[onenote]

42. I suggest you donate that $100 to a worthy cause.

Or was that just a rhetorical bet.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. I don't think they *have* to let him speak. It may be the usual protocol but the family

can certainly choose whom they want to speak.

[maryellen99]

5. I bet Bill Clinton will nt

[HipChick]

9. I bet President Obama will..he just visited him 3 days ago..

[OAITW r.2.0]

13. Interesting that GHWB never had control on the Republican Party to stop the Clinton

Inquisition. He could have weighed in, but he did fuck-all to stop the Republican BS. Oh well...now we are at the end of the Republican Party, the one that was once honorable, and now we have an Organized Crime Party that Bush?Reagan helped to create. Thanks GW!

BTW, my uncle was a OB/GYN~GP in Me back in the 50s/60s. Dorothy Walker was one of his patients...made a few house calls there in that time.

[Buckeyeblue]

40. I don't think he could have

When he lost to Clinton the party moved away from him and started moving in the direction you see now. Even when W was president, I don't think HW had much say or influence in the party.

Remember he was a different kind of repug. By today's standards he was practically liberal. He was forced into the anti-choice position. And even that position in the 80's is much different than it is today.

[Recursion]

7. Barbara had the gravitas to keep Trump out. The kids don't.

He'll do it simply because it pisses off George W and Jeb.

[Kaleva]

10. ????? Barabara kept Trump from attending her funeral?

Sitting presidents don't attend the funerals of former first ladies.

[dflprincess]

11. Except Eleanor Roosevlt's

JFK attended as did both Truman and Eisenhower.

[Kaleva]

12. That I didn't know. Thanks!

I think it's protocol for former presidents to attend the funerals of former first ladies.

[dflprincess]

15. I think it's optional (for lack of a better word)

And Eleanor was an exception. Clinton did not attend Jackie Kennedy's funeral mass but did go to the graveside service.

[hedda_foil]

17. I think Herbert Hoover was there too. He died in 1964, two years after Eleanor.

[irresistable]

6. Especially if Trump takes credit for the crowd size.

Maybe he won't go.

[Kaleva]

8. Trump will speak about e-mails, witch hunts and chant "Lock Her Up!".

[greyl]

14. Says who? nt

[ooky]

16. Normal sitting presidents deserve that respect.

This one doesn't. The asswipe will not be invited, and if he tries to invite himself they will tell him to stay away. Nobody wants this human turd at their family's funerals.

[John Fante]

18. Deliver a eulogy?! I would be shocked if the Trumps were even invited. The kids

(Jeb in particular) loathe the man.

[Doreen]

19. For some reason I do not see them "having" to have trump do the eulogy.

My first choice would be the real president Hillary Clinton or the last true president we had Barack Obama. I would laugh my ass off if they had one of them do the eulogy.

[CentralMass]

20. I'm pretty sure that he voted for Hillary.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-george-hw-bush-hillary-clinton-vote-20160920-story.html

[uponit7771]

22. Here's hoping they don't let Major F**k Up within 5 miles of the funeral

[Demsrule86]

23. No you don't.

[onethatcares]

25. I don't think "speak" is the word

he'll stand in front of a lectern and mumbles some phrases off a sheet of paper and tell everyone he won more electoral votes then he will go away.

I HOPE

[no_hypocrisy]

26. The *only* Bush that likes Trump is the grandson, George P. Bush, and

he's likely the sole vote to have Trump speak at his grandfather's funeral.

[Auggie]

27. Let him. I love it when he makes an ass of himself.

[lapucelle]

29. When Reagan died, the sitting president did not give a eulogy, main or otherwise. N/T

[jberryhill]

33. Nonsense

Sorry, but there is no “have to” with this president.

[oberliner]

35. Why do you think this?

[Achilleaze]

38. The main thing is...

The republican draft-dodger-in-chief is not invited to my funeral. I plan to Sleep in Eternal Peace, so don't want any a-holes mucking things up.

[Vinnie From Indy]

39. I hope he does speak

Most of the people attending (including GWBush) had a hand in creating this Frankenstein of a POTUS.

Now the monster has returned to meet his makers.

It will be great fun to watch as Donnie Rotten regales the assembled mourners with tales of his greatness.

[Buckeyeblue]

41. I think his sons will give eulogies

And I think Bill will speak of their friendship.

The Bush family has more than enough capable speakers to handle this. Since he has outlived all of his peers, there aren't really any friends--other than Bill--that would speak on him.

I would be surprised if 45 ever met him--at least for anything longer than a handshake.

If he attends, he will sit mostly alone and be ignored.

Who knows, maybe he is not even president by this time next week when they have the funeral.

[elfin]

43. He will be invited to the more formal National Cathedral service - pro forma

And HW was personally all about tradition and convention and manners, no matter how many bad things he did as Pres.

It will be the more personal one in Houston that will exclude him.

There is one good thing he did as Pres. - that he supported the bipartisan bill for the ADA and signed it into law characterizing it as civil rights. One good thing that Dole did as well. Of course, the participation of significant Dems in fashioning it was conveniently overshadowed.

But I do thank Republicans for that nearly every day as things become more of a challenge in old age. They faced significant blowback from their business friends but hung in there to get it established.

Naturally, the next generation of Repugs callously refused a formal extension of it in the face of Dole tottering into the Senate to encourage a yes vote.

[LanternWaste]

44. My guess is Trump will attend, not speak, and sit alone

My guess is Trump will attend, not speak, and sit alone while all other dignitaries present engage in lively conversations, laughter and anecdotes about Pres Bush.

And Trump, armed only with his perpetual grimace, will leave as quickly as he can for a fast, nine-hole round before late-night tweeting from the toilet while eating a bucket of friend chicken... and no one will notice he's gone.

(which is kinda how I see the last two years of his Presidency)