Sorry but I can't watch the "how great was Bush show".

[NightWatcher]

CIA

Iran Contra

He was the hand up senile Reagan's butt that made him talk.

I want to keep watching the "how fucked is trump" show and this looks to preempt it for a week.

He made it to 94, an age I'll never make. I'm not happy in his death, but I don't really care about him at all. Let's not praise him because he's not as bad as trump.

Save the slow music and frosted graphics and get back to exposing the traitor in chief.

[Akacia]

1. I totally get that.

Oh how I remember being ill reading and hearing about Saint Reagan I`m sure it will be similar.

[PaulX2]

42. Reagan Was A Monster

Trickle down theft of the poor.

Criminal.

Anti environment.

One of his first acts was to remove Carters solar panels from the White House roof.

A fking monster.

[Va Lefty]

2. Won't be watching either

It is disgusting the way the media use the death of republicans to "whitewash" history

[lindysalsagal]

3. They weren't the type of crooks we currently have in the gop.

I believe they were genuinely there to serve everyone, not like the current cabal. But I don't need to absorb all of it this weekend...

[czarjak]

18. The Bushes...

Are admitted members of a “Secret Society”, a society so secret, that can’t even talk about it, according to W. It’s agenda is massive wealth accumulation for a privileged few, death, debt, and destruction for everyone else. Mission accomplished. They weren’t working for everyone.

[pangaia]

30. Believe that at your own peril.

[Siwsan]

4. As with all Presidents, he was a mixed bag

And, let's face it, NO POTUS has ever been as bad as trump*. Hopefully nobody will EVER be as bad. He has set the bar to subterranean levels.

The Bush family has lost a member that they very obviously loved, very much. My heart goes out to them.

[thbobby]

5. The difference between trump and other GOP presidents

is only trump's crude and crass persona. A politically correct asshole is still an asshole. I am sorry for the Bush family, but he was a corrupt and dishonest warmonger and grifter, very similar to trump.

[GWC58]

8. Bush continued Reagan's oppressive

War on Drugs. And then some! Remember the big bag of Crack cocaine Bush held up to the tv screen during his televised message to the nation in Sept. 89? They said it was being sold a few blocks from the WH. Wasn’t exactly true. 👺

[Nitram]

21. No, Dump's crude and crass persona is the least of the differences.

His multiple efforts to profit from the power of his office, his hourly bald-faced lies, his depthless ignorance about the purpose of government and of civic duty, his blatant racism, his traitorous dealings with a hostile foreign power, his cancellation of the Paris climate-change agreement...the list goes on and on. His brash persona is just the smoke screen behind which he carries out crimes against the country.

[pangaia]

38. Of course trump is magnitudes worse than republicans past,., but...

If we really look at what past repub presidents have done,, even to a degree democrats...

-efforts to profit from the power of his office,
-his hourly bald-faced lies,--- of course not the same as trump, but the lies that will accomplish something not necessarily to my benefit or the benefit of 99% of human beings none the less
- his traitorous dealings with a hostile foreign power, - ah, we never seem to see this one, even decades afterwards...
- the list goes on and on. -- yes it does


Would I compare past presidents to trump? Of course not. At least not at the same level. However----Where does evil begin? Where is the line? How much can one get away with before it becomes so blatantly obvious ?

True, trump is a danger to the world... but he is not the first--- just, by far, far, far, the worst... plus is is insane !

[thbobby]

43. And other GOP presidents weren't just sneaky about doing the same thing?

[Nitram]

44. Good question, but my sense is Trump has taken it to an unprecedented level.

Nixon conspired with North Vietnam and Reagan conspired with Iran for political gain. But they didn't sell out the country for profit. Dubya Bush was almost as ignorant as Trump, but he was probably more of a puppet than a fraud.

[thbobby]

45. I agree that trump is the worst and most evil

But didn't the Bush Jr war in Iraq kill more people and cause more turmoil than trump has? The war on drugs has killed so many in Mexico and ruined so many lives in America. Do we judge evil by the intent of the person doing it or the devastation that has resulted? Of course, trump can still cause much damage, but at least he is stupid and unable to hide his evil.

I guess a similar question would be, "who is more evil, Hitler or Manson?".

[Nitram]

56. I guess I would rate evil in terms of the number of people killed, injured, and made homeless.

Hitler tried to wipe out the entire Jewish population and would have been happy to kill every last Russian. Bush launched bombing missions that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Manson sent his believers to brutally kill a few people to start a race war (too much LSD in a brain that was formed in prison). But you are right. A pissing war regarding which Republican president caused the most harm or was the most evil (are these two identical?) is pointless. Conservatives are heartless. They have no empathy for people who are different from them. They never have. They might have an African-American or gay friend, but that doesn't deter them from hating or fearing all the rest of those two groups.

[not fooled]

47. Yep

just Ivy League-educated looters. And work to grift the nation's prosperity out of the hands of everyone into the grasp of the oligarchy.

Lee Atwater--Willie Horton. What I think of every time someone puts "honorable" and bush I in the same sentence. Oh, and of course Iran-Contra.

And then of course the founding patriarch prescott's dealings with nazis and interest in overthrowing FDR.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. That pretty much sums it up for me.

[drmeow]

7. October surprise

GHWB started us down the slippery slope which got us here - he was willing to f**k with America lives to give Republicans more power. He can rot in hell for that alone.

[blueinredohio]

9. Amen, drmeow.

[Nitram]

55. Nixon fucked more with American lives than Bush ever did. Bush is responsible for the deaths

of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

[drmeow]

62. They are all psychopathic fascist wannabe dictators

as far as I'm concerned. The Republican Party has been treasonous for my entire life.

[thegoose]

10. Too much revisionist history

The Reagan/Bush years were horrible (I was there) and brought us to Dump. We don't need all this misty-eyed nostalgia.

[pangaia]

39. ++++++++

They were just better at hiding it... at least from some..
All that blinding gauze and smoke and mini-lies and deals.. fuckers, every one of them...

[not fooled]

48. I was so disappointed this morning

to tune in AM Joy and find an extended blathering about bush I. Tuned out ASAP.

[yardwork]

11. One good outcome is that the Republicans are forced to confront the decline of their party.

Imagine how this feels to life-long Republicans. Today they're praising Bush for attributes that Trump doesn't have - kindness, decency, integrity. The Republicans claim now that these things don't matter. They like their strong man Trump who "says it like it is." Well then why are they praising George H. W. Bush? They know in their hearts that their president is a disgrace. Their party doesn't stand for anything any more.

The more they praise Bush today, the more they are acknowledging how far they've fallen.

[mac56]

20. THIS

[yardwork]

27. Thank you.

[kydo]

12. Time to catch up on the cruse of oak island

No disrespect but, there is other news. Wall to wall coverage is over the top. All week there is time to do the "how great he was" clips. On Dec. 5 and around that time Bush Sr will be remember nationally.

But 2 hours of repeat segments is getting tiresome. Need to tune in to something else right now.

[PatSeg]

25. Individual #1

is probably breathing a sigh of relief right now, thanking god that George Bush died!

I become very annoyed with the MSM whenever someone famous dies. It is as if nothing else is happening in the world, so they play the same clips over and over again. That's pretty lazy to me.

[peekaloo]

13. babies in incubators

you forgot one

[Bradshaw3]

15. Family of Secrets tells another side of Bush 1

A book that delves into the generations of the Bush and Walker families and their history of being or wanting to be puppeteers on an international level. If some of the adulation being lavished on him this week is deserved, so are the negative aspects of what he and his family have done, which includes interventions across the globe that have had devastating effects on millions - all in the name of greater power and money for the elites.

[not fooled]

50. Yeah, that's the problem with the coverage of his death

I have no problem with corporate media eulogizing him and pointing out his positive attributes, as long as a complete picture is presented of this man's life.

Instead we get whitewashing and revisionist history, no doubt fueled by the inclinations of the conservative owners of even MSNBC to paint pukes in rosy tones so that the populace doesn't wake up to the fact that these fine folks have been robbing them blind in order to enrich their fellow plutocrats.

[58Sunliner]

16. Amen. He was dirty, dirty, dirty.

[Tikki]

17. In honor of poppy..we just signed on to start our SOLAR project.

Tikki

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. I agree 100% with you.

The best thing I can say is that he wasn't as bad as his war criminal of a son.

[Maine-i-acs]

22. planting the seeds for AQ and Taliban in Afghanistan

lest we forget.
Propping up OBL in his early days.

[turbinetree]

23. I keep thinking on how Reagan and him ratfucked

PATCO, and union members in the 80's and then went after the the middle class, attacked Social Security and Medicare, and my all time favorite the elimination of deductions on your tax form, like carried interests from banks and such, and this "guy" sided with a racist to be his partner in crime...................and now the platitudes are piling up.................and how he was with the greatest generation,.....................what saved his ass and everyone's ass in the pacific was the Navajo code talkers, and that took over twenty years to be acknowledged after the war.................and his generation in the war still had segregation against blacks.......................I'M not on that page of platitudes .....................and I agree with "NIGHTWATCHER".......................we have a full blown traitor and his enablers running the congress, in the white house and assholes out in private life just rat fucking the country..........................


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough.....................

[irisblue]

24. He had a large impact on our Middle Eastern Policy

Cheney as Sec of Defence 89-93.
US Oil policy.

[Kaleva]

26. Don't watch it.

[underpants]

28. Bailed out on his air crew too

Was I not supposed to mention that?

[Coventina]

29. May he rot in hell. n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

64. Sounds good to me.

[agingdem]

31. no one is as repulsive as trump..

Poppy Bush was a lousy president but he was civil and there was a certain blue-nose grace about the man...unlike his son

[UniteFightBack]

32. I agree! nt

[lark]

33. Yep, I feel the same. The news will not be on in my house as long as it's all HW all the time.

I have so many other things I need to be doing, this will help me with my Christmas & annual enrollment chores.

[Hortensis]

34. Same here. Oh, I can think of some positive things,

but people like him make much better neighbors than leaders of nations for sure.

I'll skip our national traditions of honoring and mourning, but guess they really are necessary to our wellbeing even if we don't care for the hypocrisy. Just imagining all those dignitaries and talking heads saying whatever they really believe, a "my opinion is truth" free-for-all, is more than a little horrifying, like a toxic explosion of honesty.

As long as the honesty we owe to the living comes later.

I just checked out what Obama said. He's taking the opportunity, using editing and styling as needed, to inspire the living to higher standards. Probably if I read an article about this stuff that'd be what it's all about.

Link to tweet

[NoMoreRepugs]

35. Same ol' same ol'. Repugs whitewashing their history.

[violetpastille]

36. I completely agree. Conveniently it's Saturday and there wasn't going to be any real news anyway.

[malchickiwick]

37. I still want to know what the hell he was doing in Dallas on 11/22/1963 ...

... That always seemed fishy for a guy who would later run the CIA.

[pangaia]

40. Right on. ++++++++++++

Keep our eyes on the present danger!
Not this dead man who brought so much evil upon humanity.
He is gone.
We have more important things to worry about.

[SHRED]

41. He pardoned the Iran/Contra criminals

[SammyWinstonJack]

65. Yeah but he did it with dignity and grace...or something like that.

[rusty fender]

46. Willie Horton

How can any Dem forget GHWB’s racist presidential campaign?

The October Surprise, remember?

Iran Contra, and as mentioned above, Bush’s pardons of Cap Weinberger, William McFarlane, and Eliot Abrams.

Escalated War on Drugs ‼️

Many Dems are ignoring GHWB’s true legacy; some cite Obama’s respect and affection for him, But they mistake Obama’s personal relationship with the man as if it was their own.

Clarence fucking Thomas

[lilactime]

53. **This**

[PCIntern]

49. It's funny

I was convinced that Reagan had early Alzheimer’s as far back as 1980 and so when they used to say that Bush would have a weekly lunch to discuss matters with Reagan, I knew Bush was the one with the brains and the guile.

[bitterross]

51. I agree with you 100%

Fawning over Republicans just because they aren't as bad as Trump got really old for me with McCain. I can't take it with such a terrible person as Bush.

[bdamomma]

52. RIP

He had his quirks too.

a thousand points of light??? isn't that what he said??

So who does that leave just Georgie, and this other fake. Hmm..... oh well.

[BannonsLiver]

54. So don't watch it.

No need to apologize.

[lambchopp59]

57. I've remained silent until you mentioned.

Not only were my older boomer-generation cousins familiar with the Bush's from Midland, Tx mid-1960's, despite their dyed-in-the-wool Republican orientation (still fodder for argument with one, who is gay and still votes against his own interests) none of them could bring themselves to vote for either Bush.
There's a "1000 points of light" foundation. Purportedly they organize some volunteer organizations. GHB apparently had made a "1000 points of light" speech after his inauguration.
But that's not the origin of that phrase. GHB used that as an excuse, during his campaign, in skirting around an actual answer to the question in a debate, about what he would do about the increasing rate of homelessness in the USA.
GHB replied, paraphrased as I recall, with my ex, listening to this on our car radio... mind that we were SLEEPING there for intermittent lack of a home towards the end of my college days.
"What are you planning to do about the increasing number of homeless people across the country?"
GHB: "When I look out there, I see a thousand points of light"
In other words, officially, less than nothing.
This were not well received words to two struggling college students without a roof over our heads.

[guillaumeb]

58. Like Reagan and Trump,

Bush Sr. was a racist traitor and a huge disgrace to the country.

Recommended.

[Laffy Kat]

59. Right with ya. nt

[jimlup]

60. Thank you yes... the Bush worship show will be on for some time

then the Donald Trump show will return soon enough.

[D23MIURG23]

61. He wasn't a great president just because he is dead now. n/t

[TheCatQueen]

63. I'm with you

We listened to Christmas music on Alexa instead. I did turn on MSNBC later this afternoon and was pleased that at least it wasn't all Bush all the time - they also covered the Mueller probe. I just can't handle the lionization of such a flawed elitist.