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bigtree

(85,977 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:52 AM Dec 2018

"You will be our president when you read this note"

Michael Beschloss @BeschlossDC

George H.W. Bush’s letter to Bill Clinton, Inaugural Day 1993:





“You will be our president when you read this note. Your success now is our country’s success. I will be rooting hard for you.” ~George HW Bush to Bill Clinton
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"You will be our president when you read this note" (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2018 OP
A class act Zambero Dec 2018 #1
I can't even imagine the jackass that is in the WH now writing anything gracious or kind. patricia92243 Dec 2018 #2
He'll trash the place. Moebym Dec 2018 #29
"Dear Next Pres'dent, 3Hotdogs Dec 2018 #43
"PS. Please pardon me! Please, please, please, please, please!" tclambert Dec 2018 #49
Hey now., he's going to leave behind fabulously gold plated walls and heavy oak furniture. Calista241 Dec 2018 #51
im in tears.. i want our America to be GREAT again!!!! samnsara Dec 2018 #3
That was a very kind note after what was a stunning loss for GHWB. Ilsa Dec 2018 #4
it had to be humbling for Bush bigtree Dec 2018 #5
K&R mcar Dec 2018 #6
Thought this was going to be a note from Trumpy to Putin. milestogo Dec 2018 #7
I almost always disagreed with Poppy, but never hated him. Greybnk48 Dec 2018 #8
That is traditional. Outgoing Presidents leave a note like that in the Oval Office for the... George II Dec 2018 #9
"When you read this note, I'll no longer be president..." bigtree Dec 2018 #10
Number 5 Bayard Dec 2018 #28
I can't imagine Bob Loblaw Dec 2018 #11
You can't imagine it because he won't. EllieBC Dec 2018 #12
Trump never possessed Bob Loblaw Dec 2018 #14
I feel like it's been going in general. EllieBC Dec 2018 #18
I don't disagree Bob Loblaw Dec 2018 #22
Fox, Limbaugh, and entitled ultra-rich Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #33
Don't forget Gingrich rickyhall Dec 2018 #52
And the bang-for-the-buck media. If it doesn't flame emotions, it doesn't get eyeballs and ad$$$ erronis Dec 2018 #38
The funeral will be in Washington and trump will be there. Hopefully he'll be shunned like this week George II Dec 2018 #16
"HOW COULD U STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS, MIKE???" bullwinkle428 Dec 2018 #26
If Trump manages to get through the whole term MurrayDelph Dec 2018 #34
$500 at the Mar-ma-lado gift shop... SergeStorms Dec 2018 #47
If he does, SnowCritter Dec 2018 #15
Something like "I fixed this country, now don't screw it up" George II Dec 2018 #17
I am baffled by all the hearts and flowers for GHWB today on the DU. KentuckyWoman Dec 2018 #13
You won't be hearing any kind words from me. lark Dec 2018 #19
it's all out there bigtree Dec 2018 #20
Great comment. Let's let history be the judge. Nt Moebym Dec 2018 #30
I completely understand. reflection Dec 2018 #41
I am too! burrowowl Dec 2018 #45
Damn. trof Dec 2018 #21
Country before party. Unity before division. Mrs. Overall Dec 2018 #23
Class act. orangecrush Dec 2018 #24
GHW Bush was a class act Gothmog Dec 2018 #25
This is so beautiful! And it made me sad when recall Trump having Palin and Kid Rock and Ted Nugent secondwind Dec 2018 #27
There was never any doubt that he loved the country. RIP DesertRat Dec 2018 #31
If a note like that is left after our current long nightmare, someone else will have written it jmowreader Dec 2018 #32
kick bigtree Dec 2018 #35
Polar Opposite Of Trump colsohlibgal Dec 2018 #36
I don't know what Trump's letter will say .... jb5150 Dec 2018 #37
That's how presidents are supposed to act. Nt garybeck Dec 2018 #39
Sigh... remember when the presidency used to be respected? Initech Dec 2018 #40
George H. W. Bush is still a war criminal jimlup Dec 2018 #42
He sure is and did crimes against humanity! burrowowl Dec 2018 #46
+1 jimlup Dec 2018 #48
A note from a standup man. No wonder they remained friends. Honeycombe8 Dec 2018 #44
Trump's letter to his successor will be: "follow that, motherfucker" written in purple crayon. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #50

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
1. A class act
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:00 AM
Dec 2018

He and Bill developed a lasting friendship over the years. Despite pronounced political differences, there was a time when civility and working toward the common good was the rule. Hopefully once the current nightmare is behind us, some of that can be restored once again although I am not overly-optimistic.

Moebym

(989 posts)
29. He'll trash the place.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:42 PM
Dec 2018

Like an tenant after getting an eviction notice, he'll overturn furniture, throw stuff on the floors, etc. I mean, he thinks it's a dump anyway.

3Hotdogs

(12,330 posts)
43. "Dear Next Pres'dent,
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:04 PM
Dec 2018

I did the mostliest of any pres'dent before me to fix our country. I know you won't be abl3 to match the things I did but do your bestest.

Don

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
51. Hey now., he's going to leave behind fabulously gold plated walls and heavy oak furniture.
Sun Dec 2, 2018, 12:53 AM
Dec 2018

In the private residence.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
4. That was a very kind note after what was a stunning loss for GHWB.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:26 AM
Dec 2018

The first priority was the nation, not "winning" or getting revenge (remember Omarosa's comments).

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
5. it had to be humbling for Bush
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:31 AM
Dec 2018

...and he did prove to be gracious in his retirement.

I imagine he reveled in the history and national tradition in our democracy that deserves and flourishes from such graciousness.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
8. I almost always disagreed with Poppy, but never hated him.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:39 AM
Dec 2018

Not like we feel today about many; feelings well deserved I might add. He and his wife conducted themselves very professionally while in office. He always did, she let her racism show when Dubya took over; a rare slip. In hindsight, and knowing what we know now, I wonder what kind of President he would have been if he hadn't had the fucking monster Cheney at his ear all the time?

I didn't vote for him, but he was a good man.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. That is traditional. Outgoing Presidents leave a note like that in the Oval Office for the...
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:39 AM
Dec 2018

...new President (Nixon may not have done so for Ford, however).

Obama left one for trump.

I suppose we'll have to wonder if trump will do this for the next President?

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
11. I can't imagine
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:43 AM
Dec 2018

Trump doing this. And this is yet another funeral he will be asked to stay away from.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
14. Trump never possessed
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:51 AM
Dec 2018

either class or grace. I'm not ready to say that no one else does. Take you and me for instance.

EllieBC

(2,990 posts)
18. I feel like it's been going in general.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:02 AM
Dec 2018

Just in general, people are less polite than they used to be. Maybe it’s the extreme polarization. I think about how the Clintons and Obamas can be pleasant and even friendly with the Bush family and the McCains or how RBG would have lunch with Scalia and I wonder what the hell is wrong with the rest of us. What has happened? I mean I know that giant talking yam accelerated the death of decorum but it was already happening.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
22. I don't disagree
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:14 AM
Dec 2018

And I think reasonable people can disagree without being unreasonable. I happen to believe there are still more people who choose decency over those who don't. I think we can continue to fight for ourselves and our causes and beliefs without stooping to their level. Admittedly I don't always practice what I'm preaching here, but I try most of the time. To paraphrase; All that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good people do nothing. Have a great weekend, it appears that Mousse-a-lini's mideeds are reaching critical mass.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,254 posts)
33. Fox, Limbaugh, and entitled ultra-rich
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:03 PM
Dec 2018

The extreme polarization is the result of extremist propaganda being pushed for the agenda of the centi-millionaire and billionaire class. They received windfalls under Reaganomics and have been amassing more wealth and power to promote more wealth and power to themselves ever since.

erronis

(15,181 posts)
38. And the bang-for-the-buck media. If it doesn't flame emotions, it doesn't get eyeballs and ad$$$
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:11 PM
Dec 2018

Murdoch understands how to divide people so he can sell his crap. Other media moguls are guilty also.

Fascinating segment on OnPointRadio about Roger Ailes (also The Clinton Affair): https://www.divideandconquerfilm.com/

And, I hope we can resurrect some decorum and intelligent discussion. The yacking yam can't destroy everything.



MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
34. If Trump manages to get through the whole term
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:04 PM
Dec 2018

(and, god, I hope he doesn't)


The best we can hope from him is a note that says:



"This letter is good for 10% off of your purchase* at Mar-a-Lago gift shop





"* $500 Minimum purchase required"

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
47. $500 at the Mar-ma-lado gift shop...
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:21 PM
Dec 2018

will get you one MAGA hat and a black and white photo of Trump eating a chicken leg.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
15. If he does,
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:55 AM
Dec 2018

you can be assured that the topic of the note will be Trump, and nothing else.

The ultimate narcissist right to the end.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
13. I am baffled by all the hearts and flowers for GHWB today on the DU.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:48 AM
Dec 2018

The man is a horrible human being. No amount of washing gets the skunk off him. There can be no redemption for any member of the BFEE.

The President's club is fine. I get that. But to see any kindness towards the man here is completely baffling. So he's not as much a shithead as what we have. I'm sorry, but that can't be the standard. It can't.

lark

(23,061 posts)
19. You won't be hearing any kind words from me.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:05 AM
Dec 2018

I will never forgive him for what he did to Jimmy Carter for Rayguns and his personal benefit. He may have been better on the outside, not as crass or hate filled, but inside he sold out our country and the hostages for his own benefit and that's unforgivable in my book. He also fomented the Iraq war encouraging them to invade Kuwait then turning on them once they followed his suggestion. But there's a difference, he did what he did for power, but power for the rich of this country. He wasn;t a tool of Russia or any other foreign country and put the welfare of this country above that of any others. Tiny puts Russia first, America and our allies last and actively tries to hurt the working class/poor and minorities out of hate. So yes no one has ever been as bad as drumpf, but HW wasn't actually good. His son is still one of the top 2-5 worst presidents ever. I think the rankings for worst ever should be - Drumpf, Jackson, GW Bush, Harding.

bigtree

(85,977 posts)
20. it's all out there
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:06 AM
Dec 2018

Last edited Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:31 PM - Edit history (3)


...a touching letter to the incoming president isn't going to erase any of the bad things he orchestrated or participated in.

Still, we're not bound to scorn or recrimination in our discourse. There's value in emphasizing his humanity, and there's further value in recognizing the comity shown to his political rival, especially in the midst of such a recriminating presidency as we're experiencing today.




GHW Bush pictured at Walker's Point Maine in this July 2013 photo after joining members of his Secret Service detail in shaving his head to show support for Patrick, the two year-old son of a detail member who was being treated for cancer and was losing his hair. Reuters

reflection

(6,286 posts)
41. I completely understand.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:39 PM
Dec 2018

I'm torn, like a lot of people. I got the chance to spend a week in very close proximity to him, ate meals sitting next to him for several days and chatted in the hallways where we were staying. One on one, a complete class act. Charming, wanted to talk about you, not himself, would stop in the middle of whatever he was doing literally dozens of times to sign something or grant a picture taken with someone. Funny, self-deprecating, the whole package. Then you have his policies.

Made me wish I'd never met him. Or made me wish I never knew his policies. He's hard to put in a box for me. I'll just be glad for what he did well and lament what he didn't.

burrowowl

(17,632 posts)
45. I am too!
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:43 PM
Dec 2018

For 1 Iran Contra 200 t0 250,000 Guatemalan Natives killed and Bush I is to blame (Raygun's mind was already gone) , he makes me puke!

orangecrush

(19,415 posts)
24. Class act.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:52 AM
Dec 2018

As much as I suffered as a result of his policies (as did most of us) I respect him for upholding the dignity of the office.


secondwind

(16,903 posts)
27. This is so beautiful! And it made me sad when recall Trump having Palin and Kid Rock and Ted Nugent
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:21 PM
Dec 2018

in that same room!

We NEED our country back..

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
36. Polar Opposite Of Trump
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 03:31 PM
Dec 2018

Did not agree with Poppy Bush about everything but he had a class and decency that has gone and went, for the most part, in that Party. Tragic.

RIP GHWB.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
42. George H. W. Bush is still a war criminal
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 09:22 PM
Dec 2018

I will not apologize for holding this view nor will I forget it.

burrowowl

(17,632 posts)
46. He sure is and did crimes against humanity!
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:45 PM
Dec 2018

200 to 250,000 Guatemalan Natives killed under Iran-Contra!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
44. A note from a standup man. No wonder they remained friends.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 10:19 PM
Dec 2018

Those were the days when the two parties could get along. That all changed with the Republican hatred for Bill Clinton and the rise of Newt Gingrich.

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