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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:05 AM Dec 2018

Please God, whatever you do, give President Carter at least two more years

Or however long it takes to remove this monstrosity from the White House.

I do not want arguably the finest human being to ever hold the office to be eulogized by undoubtedly the worst.

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lark

(23,065 posts)
1. Tiny wouldn't give a eulogy, he wouldn't be asked and if he asked (he wouldn't) he'd be denied.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:17 AM
Dec 2018

However, I agree with your sentiment. I want Carter to pass knowing we are safe from Tiny's destruction and that America isn't being subverted and destroyed by Russia. I want him to die in peace with himself and the country, he deserves that for all the massive good he's done here and throughout the world. He's the best person to ever be president, the most giving and caring. Obama is a very good man, and was a better president, but no one is a better ex-president, ever.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
3. About President Carter...He saved more lives with the seat belt order than all Bush Jr. killed.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:22 AM
Dec 2018
Link below at bottom of post, proves this statement.
.....Seatbelt requirement became mandatory in 84. Many cars were being equipped with belts beforehand. After that other safety requirements were required. Air bags , side impact air bags. crumple zones, extra lights on cars (like that light in the rear window that goes on when you brake your car) etc. Gradually with the safety features that cars have been required to have..(starting with Carter's orders)...cars have become much safer, even though there are millions of more cars on the road..

Carter did a brilliant thing. He did not order them right away. He gave the auto industry 7 years to comply and get it all together and put seatbelts in cars. So the order was given in 77 a few months after he became President. It went into effect 7 years later. Plenty of time for the auto manufacturers to comply. Some complied earlier but all met the deadline.

If you know someone whose life was saved from the seatbelts, airbags, and other safety requirements; tell them it was Carter who ordered this. Oh, and Carter does NOT brag about this. Saving lives is his legacy.



You will see a significant drop in deaths on the highway starting around 82 or 83.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_vehicle_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
5. What seat belt order?
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:41 AM
Dec 2018

Cars were required to have seat belts in 1968. Long before Carter. The laws requiring seat belt use are State laws not federal laws. NY passed the first state law in 1984, four years after Carter. New Hampshire still has no law requiring seat belt use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
6. Your chart shows enforcement of seat belt laws..Not the
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:44 AM
Dec 2018

not requiring cars to have them. Cars were not required to have them in 64

former9thward

(31,947 posts)
7. Yes they were.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:46 AM
Dec 2018

Go argue with Congress.

The first seat belt law was a federal law, Title 49 of the United States Code, Chapter 301, Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, which took effect on January 1, 1968, that required all vehicles (except buses) to be fitted with seat belts in all designated seating positions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt_laws_in_the_United_States

I will ask again, what seat belt order?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. I can certainly understand why you dig in on this one.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 01:38 PM
Dec 2018

And even more certain you'll allege otherwise.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
8. I really don't think that is correct
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:10 PM
Dec 2018

While I wasn't an adult in the 1970's I owned three cars from that era a 69 chevy impala, a 73 grand marquis and a 79 grand marquis and all of them had seat belts with the 73 and 79 having buzzers that wouldn't stop until you buckled up. He might have made back seat seat belts mandatory but not front seat ones.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
9. The only car I ever owned that didn't have seat belts was
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 12:31 PM
Dec 2018

my 1959 VW bug. All my others, starting with the '69 bug, had seatbelts.

I think that significant drop related to seat belts had a lot more to do with enforcing the seat belt laws, and kids being in child seats. Even today there are people who refuse to wear seat belts. Sometimes they learn the hard way, by being ejected from a car in an accident. Mostly they never have to use a seat belt after that.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. +100,000
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 11:28 AM
Dec 2018

Here's hoping that his work building homes for Habitat for Humanity keeps him in excellent shape. He's the sweetest, kindest man ever!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
16. RBG is more than a national treasure...she's a national necessity.
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 08:32 PM
Dec 2018

I sincerely heap blessings upon her for a strong, happy, healthful, and very long life.

If fate were to step in and rule otherwise, I personally volunteer to assist in the carry-out of "A Weekend at Ruthie's," whereby RBG appears early and often at every function where she is expected, plus a few others thrown in just for good measure. We cannot afford to lose her.

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