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thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:20 PM Dec 2018

What would Putin care about a Trump Tower penthouse?

I don't understand. I assume he already has very nice accommodations, and can live pretty much anywhere he wants.

It was described this way in the press:

“In Russia, the oligarchs would bend over backwards to live in the same building as Vladimir Putin,” Sater said. “My idea was to give a $50 million penthouse to Putin and charge $250 million more for the rest of the units. All the oligarchs would line up to live in the same building as Putin.”


What made them think Putin would move into it? The whole plan sounds bizarre to me.

Reminds me of this...

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What would Putin care about a Trump Tower penthouse? (Original Post) thesquanderer Dec 2018 OP
He would make a deal to give the penthouse to Putin lapfog_1 Dec 2018 #1
He wouldn't. Putin is many times richer than Trump, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #2
They give Putin the penthouse free, oligarchs trample a path to buy in the building XRubicon Dec 2018 #3
Putin is Russian rich Buckeyeblue Dec 2018 #4
It's about getting leverage on Trump, not an apartment manor321 Dec 2018 #5
that's what Rachel said womanofthehills Dec 2018 #9
It's an investment. Why does any rich person need even more? n/t pnwmom Dec 2018 #6
Probably hoped the gift would help erase some of his debt Generic Brad Dec 2018 #7
A Look Inside Vladimir Putin's $1B Palace dalton99a Dec 2018 #8
yes he owns much property scarytomcat Dec 2018 #10

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
1. He would make a deal to give the penthouse to Putin
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:24 PM
Dec 2018

thus raising the purchase price of the other units...

Putin never actually moves in... sells it for $25M... and pockets the bribe.

Trump makes the money back (which really only cost him maybe $5M or $10M to build the penthouse) with the increased value of the other units...

and the two most corrupt people on the planet each walk away with a tidy profit.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,612 posts)
2. He wouldn't. Putin is many times richer than Trump,
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:24 PM
Dec 2018

but Trump is completely transactional in all dealings with everybody, and is probably used to bribing people. As Sater said, Trump probably hoped that Putin's ownership of one of the apartments would cause other oligarchs to want to be his neighbors, so Trump could sell the other units for madly inflated prices. But there would be nothing in it for Putin; he's richer than God and he doesn't need a free apartment. Trump didn't get that part.

XRubicon

(2,212 posts)
3. They give Putin the penthouse free, oligarchs trample a path to buy in the building
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:28 PM
Dec 2018

for inflated prices.

That's what I heard anyway.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
4. Putin is Russian rich
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 04:33 PM
Dec 2018

His money is worthless outside of Russia. And he has so many enemies that living outside of Russia is impossible. So the penthouse might be appealing. I doubt he'd live there. He would consider such a place a trap. But he would happily posses it.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
5. It's about getting leverage on Trump, not an apartment
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 05:06 PM
Dec 2018

Putin owns Russia. He doesn't need an apartment. It was to establish close personal and financial ties. THIS is how he controls his oligarchs.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
7. Probably hoped the gift would help erase some of his debt
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 06:15 PM
Dec 2018

Trump is only out for himself. He does not care for anyone other than himself.

He probably owed so much to multiple wealthy Russians, that he was looking for a way to get the debt forgiven. When I try to look at things from his egocentric perspective, currying favor with the person he perceived as the boss of the oligarchs might just protect him when it came time for them to collect. And if the price to Putin was selling out the U.S. - well, that's not Trump's problem. He's not the U.S. He's Trump.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
10. yes he owns much property
Sat Dec 1, 2018, 07:42 PM
Dec 2018

most of it he obtain by questionable means
he may be the richest man in the world
he is like a very rich Bond character that owns his own country (a very large country at that)

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