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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums2019: I predict The Trump presidency will unravel suddenly. He will not run for re-election.
The combination of the Mueller investigation and the storm of House investigations that will start in January are not survivable. I do not know if Trump will impeached, even though he should be. I believe he will lose support from the Republicans in congress. They will try to save themselves and their party. Once that happens the Trump presidency will come apart quickly.
Trump will not seek re-election or he may even resign. Trump also has to worry about the investigations in the southern district of New York. They are a major threat to Trump , his family, his organization. Trump has ruined his life and possibly his children lives. Trump is a fucking asshole. He will be under investigation the rest his life.
Me.
(35,454 posts)The tide is already turning and I'm thinking it's going to get progressively worse Jan & Feb
Charlotte Little
(658 posts)You can see a shift on the morning news shows. They are not tiptoeing around the obvious anymore.
It's a matter of time.
ProfessorGAC
(64,988 posts)He's never actually worked and day in his life and this job actually requires some work.
You just know he is hating every minute of it, except when he gets to use that pulpit to spew nonsense to the base. The rest probably has him miserable, and it's only going to get worse now that an entire branch of government is no longer a rubber stamp (or that he is simply a useful idiot to their whims.)
Me.
(35,454 posts)and hoping just desserts grabs him by the collar, stupid, arrogant, eveil jackasss to run in the first place
ProfessorGAC
(64,988 posts)Still to this day, i can't understand why anybody in their right mind (absent explicit misogyny or backlash racism over BHO) would think a billionaire born with a silverspoon in their mouth would be an advocate.
I remember waking up that morning just thinking "You've got to be kidding me! That idiot won?!?!?"
thegoose
(3,115 posts)He needs to go now.
LBM20
(1,580 posts)thegoose
(3,115 posts)That's why his orange ass is there.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)demsocialist
(202 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)He thought he could pull his dirty tricks in the WH, and he just got slapped down. I do not want him getting the perks of a former president, the pension, protection, allowances etc. He was NEVER a real president, why should taxpayers be on the hook for even more easy money to him? Criminal prosecution should be in his future, along with his grifting "kids"
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)to Jared in hopes of getting favors from Trump--that will never be delivered.
GopherGal
(2,008 posts)The only part of the presidency he seems to like is the adulation from the nut jobs at his campaign rallies, so he might stick with that for a bit (especially if the fundraising can be used for legal defense funds). But then how does he get out of it? Claim illness? Or some phony self-righteousness to protect his family?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,661 posts)tparrett62
(268 posts)Once it really starts to unravel so obviously that no one can deny it, everyone is going to be amazed that it took so long to happen.
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)Response to shockey80 (Original post)
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Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)Jarqui
(10,122 posts)It will be obvious that he has no chance.
But he'll stay in office. The Republicans enabled him and they're going to cover each other as best they can for the next two years.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Sure hope so.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)elocs
(22,565 posts)to be the greatest in history and he will claim he is choosing not to run because Liberals and the media are involved in a massive conspiracy to bring him down. He will get a pardon from Pence and then continue to rabble-rouse and inflame his loyal worshipers.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)He violates their Terms of Service daily but is excused because he is president. But if he were out of office, he would no longer be free to bully and intimidate on Twitter any longer. (He would have to switch to Instagram like Roger Stone).
The Wizard
(12,541 posts)before Trump gone?
elocs
(22,565 posts)Trump can drag this out and his ace in the hole to do it would be the Supreme Court.
We really need to stop the feeding frenzy our what we hope and fantasize what will happen and just look at the reality of what might happen.
Hekate
(90,632 posts)You comment about unravelling suddenly is similar to something said early on in this fiasco about gigantic businesses: They collapse very very slowly, until they collapse all at once.
On edit: looking upthread at Ocelot's post, I see the person I heard must have been quoting Hemingway. Ta.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Is something I heard from June 2015 until November 2016. Hearing it now makes me think of a certain kid getting ready to kick a football.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)are a sign that he is realizing what a buffoon the rest of the world thinks he is at the same time as he admits to himself just how huge his legal troubles are.
He really can't stand this.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Day to day indications are the worst type of trap. It is almost like an evil clown pulling strings and laughing all the way, as he sends overreactive types in one misguided direction, then the other.
Big picture dominates. Incumbent seeks the nomination again, destroys all challengers, and is hellish to defeat in November, given all the inherent advantages of incumbency.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)I hear what you're saying, but this is an extraordinary case.
Now, I think many will be disappointed by how few consequences Trump and other Republicans face. I certainly don't think, for instance, that Trump will end up in jail. But Trump's odds of winning re-election are not like those of his predecessors (aside from maybe Nixon).
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)the rapid drum beat of scandal, preposterous events, dementia, his tax proposals and tariffs are decimating his Red State base, while making us look like fools and pouting at international events. Then of course, there is the Mueller-Cohen conversation taking place in broad daylight.
When his Cabinet...,the longer they stay the harder to find a new position... and when the R's constituents begin to show their displeasure prior to 2020, he's gone. They value their re-election more than anything else. And for him, I think the clincher will be his kids...not that he cares about them...but that they will flip on him in a New York minute.
Two things that will hit him hard...poverty and irrelevancy.
FloridaBlues
(4,007 posts)Vinca
(50,255 posts)It's a mystery to me why the Justice Dept. won't indict a sitting president, but that's the policy. Once out of office they're toast.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)Difficult to imagine the current GOP primary electorate nominating a woman and one who comes from brown skinned parents to boot. Im sure she thinks shes got a bright future, but Im not so sure.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)I also think he has known it for awhile and is doing the rally's to generate his legal defense fund money for himself, and not for re-election.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)There will be one last day when most "experts" will assume that somehow, he will stick it out to the end of his term. Then suddenly, there will be a week like we have never seen since Nixon, where everything comes apart all at once. There will be a meeting with GOP leaders and the next day, he resigns.
It may not be so much what the investigations reveal, as what happens to the economy. One forgotten thing about Nixon is that the country was in a very bad mood in 1974 for reasons unrelated to Watergate. The oil embargo, inflation, and recession were bringing an end to a generation of prosperity that middle America had come to expect. That is why Trump can cling to approval ratings in the mid to high 30's and Nixon was in the teens.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)followed by several heinous acts by his deplorable attack dogs.
In other words, it's going to get a lot worse from now until the bitter end.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)Either resigned or in so much legal trouble he will not be able to do anything else, or just ignored by everyone and completely impotent.
dlk
(11,541 posts)Just guessing here.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And if he gets beat in the primary, he will run as an independent and do everything he can to sabotage the repugs. His base will stick with him.
byronius
(7,392 posts)They'll keep cover until there's just too many holes, and then -- pwooof.
Classic narcissm traits. His subconscious wants all of his weird internal bizzarities exposed to the entire world -- for narcissists, there is a sexual thrill in the shame of Full Exposure.
Cue nobody admitting that they ever voted for him.
Cue chyrons calling him a 'Democrat' on Fox.
Ciaphas Cain
(124 posts)None of his flunky children are immune to prosecution. One could be indicted in the near future...
Traditionally that would be a serious problem but who knows with Trump. For all we know might just mock them on Twitter afterwards.
Polybius
(15,373 posts)This time for President.
Lokilooney
(322 posts)He never wanted to be president in the first place, his campaign was just an off the rails exposure run that inexplicable got on the right rail.
watoos
(7,142 posts)and for a Trump News TV outlet.
He waited too long IMO. The day that Mueller got appointed he should have gotten his gastroenterologist doctor to come up with a mystery illness like brain spurs. If he quits now he loses the legal protection the presidency affords him. He had better be sure that Pence will pardon him, but he still has state crimes to deal with.
Either way his criminal empire is in tatters. Who would want to put the name Trump atop a building today? He can't get any loans from reputable banks, he must be fit to be tied, a narcissist that the world is laughing at. I hope his blue pills still work.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)or rendered completely politically (and no doubt physically) impotent.
earthside
(6,960 posts)... I've been saying 1) odds favored him not completing his four years (I favor resignation in disgrace, not impeachment); and 2) that if he managed to survive he wouldn't run again.
This whole Trump 2020 thing is just a tactic to allow his 'campaign' to continue to propagandize and to avoid 'lame duck' status.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I wish I had your confidence, but I have come to believe a video of Trump organizing a baboon rape party on the dead bodies of murdered children would be dismissed as "no big deal."
The base has lost its damn mind and moderates are being forced out.